not quite, i mean chara did hoist the cup last spring and shea weber is a huge name, plus lidstrom is 40
- flyerscup2011

Lidstrom is 41, and he's still the best dman in the NHL.

It still really pisses me off that Chris Pronger wasn't nominated for the Norris his first season as a Flyer. Keith and Doughty were well deserving of their nominations and Keith did deserve to win but Pronger deserved that 3rd nomination over Mike Green. The one year the NHL decides to go young and forget about Lidstrom.
- Schenn2shine

Green was nominated strictly based on his point total. He's brutal in his own end.

he could start game 1.
- hammarby31

I must admit, barring injury I would be pretty surprised if Bob started game 1.

Lidstrom is 41, and he's still the best dman in the NHL.
- PLindbergh31

he's certainly up there. but chara and weber are very strong competition and in their primes

he's certainly up there. but chara and weber are very strong competition and in their primes
- flyerscup2011

No question. Top 4 guys in the NHL are Lidstrom, Chara, Keith and Weber imo

No question. Top 4 guys in the NHL are Lidstrom, Chara, Keith and Weber imo
- PLindbergh31

that's the great thing about the nhl IMO.... parity. so many great players and teams. the stanley cup isn't the hardest trophy in to win in pro sports for nothing

I don't think anyone here would say no, including me. But that is so not the point. This is like comparing apples to watermelons.

Would you take a $5 a hour raise to move to Columbus doing the same job you are doing now?

Or more accurately, would you take a $5 an hour raise at your current job with the understanding you were going to move up, but then be told the only way you are getting that raise is to move to Columbus, would you be happy about it?
- MBFlyerfan

Green was nominated strictly based on his point total. He's brutal in his own end.
- PLindbergh31

I know why he was nominated and to me there is no excuse. If they really wanted Mike Green to be noticed, come out with an offensive defenseman award. I believe the shine has rubbed off Green and in my mind it was only a matter of time. He was never Norris worthy.

I must admit, barring injury I would be pretty surprised if Bob started game 1.
- PLindbergh31

well, now that bryz's new pads have been leaked, he HAS to start to the playoffs now.

I know why he was nominated and to me there is no excuse. If they really wanted Mike Green to be noticed, come out with an offensive defenseman award. I believe the shine has rubbed off Green and in my mind it was only a matter of time. He was never Norris worthy.
- Schenn2shine

nothing new there. just look at paul coffey.

that's the great thing about the nhl IMO.... parity. so many great players and teams. the stanley cup isn't the hardest trophy in to win in pro sports for nothing
- flyerscup2011

Agreed.

well, now that bryz's new pads have been leaked, he HAS to start to the playoffs now.
- hammarby31

and the rest of the games as well , bob is trade bait, sell high and sell often

nothing new there. just look at paul coffey.
- hammarby31

Guy was a beast and then he joined the Flyers

I know why he was nominated and to me there is no excuse. If they really wanted Mike Green to be noticed, come out with an offensive defenseman award. I believe the shine has rubbed off Green and in my mind it was only a matter of time. He was never Norris worthy.
- Schenn2shine

Well Green has been crippled by injuries the last two years, so he's fallen off the map.

I know why he was nominated and to me there is no excuse. If they really wanted Mike Green to be noticed, come out with an offensive defenseman award. I believe the shine has rubbed off Green and in my mind it was only a matter of time. He was never Norris worthy.
- Schenn2shine

he's a 4th forward, nothing more

Guy was a beast and then he joined the Flyers
- bigmookalookie

He actually had one really good year after playing here. I think it was with the Canes.

He actually had one really good year after playing here. I think it was with the Canes.
- Schenn2shine

BTW, Bryz was Christ reborn when we played... W-T-F

well, now that bryz's new pads have been leaked, he HAS to start to the playoffs now.
- hammarby31

In all seriousness would you be surprised if Bryzgalov struggled in game 1 of the playoff series, and Laviolette came back and played Bob in game 2? Heck with the way this season has gone I almost expect it.

Guy was a beast and then he joined the Flyers
- bigmookalookie

paul coffey is no different than adam oates , jagr, pronger, roenick, etc, etc, etc. a great player the flyers acquired well after his prime

Well Green has been crippled by injuries the last two years, so he's fallen off the map.
- PLindbergh31

Green set the bar too high for himself. Even if he was able to stay healthy, he'd never see another 30 goal season. Hitting 20 is rare for a really good Dman.

BTW, Bryz was Christ reborn when we played... W-T-F
- bigmookalookie

flyer need to start playing team defense and he'll be that again. i have faith

BTW, Bryz was Christ reborn when we played... W-T-F
- bigmookalookie

We need more players in our league. I told me cousin I'd save the Leafs for him but he's taking forever to get NHL12.

paul coffey is no different than adam oates , jagr, pronger, roenick, etc, etc, etc. a great player the flyers acquired well after his prime
- flyerscup2011

I fully agree with your well observed comment commenting off what I posted which was a good comment that deserved a good obversivatory comment like your own

Green set the bar too high for himself. Even if he was able to stay healthy, he'd never see another 30 goal season. Hitting 20 is rare for a really good Dman.
- Schenn2shine

Yep. 2009-10 he had 76 points, in today's NHL that's insane #'s for a dman.

flyer need to start playing team defense and he'll be that again. i have faith
- flyerscup2011

Oh no I was referring to NHL 12. If Bryz played like he did in NHL 12 people would be lining up to blow him