It wasn't.
- Schenn2shine

What about the deal that got us LeClair and Desjardins... Was that Clarke?

Was it Clarke that traded for LeClair and Desjardins? Becuase I would say that.
- RooNosHockey

Yes it was Clarke who made that trade. Clarke was Flyers GM for 19 years over two stints.

The Mets are going to finish last in the NL East. Hilarious.
- PLindbergh31

- bradleyc4

Lots of Tejada, Duda, and Thole this year. Fun times!

Most likely. Their in rebuilding mode. This is the way I see the division this year.

Phillies
Atlanta
Florida
Washington
NY
- stveshdy

Don't sleep on Washington, bro.

What's funny to me is how bad people want to trade JvR but still complain about Patrick Sharp being traded. Who's to be blamed when JvR gets moved and he rips it up? Personally I feel Matt Read could be the next Patrick Sharp.
- Schenn2shine

Only reason people wanted JvR traded is bc he has been a disappointment (injures or not). The Flyers really could use a top notch defenseman and JvR is probably one of your better chips needed to pull that kind of deal off. The Flyers have done a very nice job this year scoring even without JvR and that makes you think he can be expendable for the right return. I dont think people just want to trade JvR unless their getting back a great return.

Lots of Tejada, Duda, and Thole this year. Fun times!
- PLindbergh31

I didn't disagree with you. They're going to be awful.

You must not see much of Suter....
- jak521

im going by stats and what i saw of him when we played them, i also beleive playing with weber has made him look better then he is...same was with hamhuis

Lots of Tejada, Duda, and Thole this year. Fun times!
- PLindbergh31

all with less then 2 years exp. your point

Only reason people wanted JvR traded is bc he has been a disappointment (injures or not). The Flyers really could use a top notch defenseman and JvR is probably one of your better chips needed to pull that kind of deal off. The Flyers have done a very nice job this year scoring even without JvR and that makes you think he can be expendable for the right return. I dont think people just want to trade JvR unless their getting back a great return.
- stveshdy

A difficult concept.

Yes it was Clarke who made that trade. Clarke was Flyers GM for 19 years over two stints.
- PLindbergh31

So then I would say thats Clarke's best trade.

What about the deal that got us LeClair and Desjardins... Was that Clarke?
- RooNosHockey

No Ideal, I believe he had 2 stints as Flyers GM.

Don't sleep on Washington, bro.
- bradleyc4

Just dont think their ready yet. They have to prove they can produce all year long before I move them up my rankings. Think their still too young to make that next step. This could be the year they finish 3rd in the division.

I didn't disagree with you. They're going to be awful.
- bradleyc4

so true i told a guy at work if they win 65 games this year id be happy

What about the deal that got us LeClair and Desjardins... Was that Clarke?
- RooNosHockey

Yes. That was his best trade, especially since he was able to re-acquire Recchi for Dainius Zubrus a few years later. Clarke made a number of good trades that year: Söderström for Hextall, Galley for Svoboda, Yves Racine for Kevin Haller, Bob Wilkie for Karl Dykhuis.

im going by stats and what i saw of him when we played them, i also beleive playing with weber has made him look better then he is...same was with hamhuis
- mydoglicks

The counter argument is that Suter makes players look much better when playing with him. Suter is not an offensive d-man. He is a two way d-man who has a better defensive game than offensive.. and his offensive game is pretty superb.

In my opinion a deal has to be done. Nothing is written in stone but I feel there is something most likely to be done then not.
- Schenn2shine

i like evryone on the team and i just dont see us being able to capitalize on a trade

all with less then 2 years exp. your point
- Duane B

UGh...
both players wanted a fresh start...
Ellison was going to be a depth guy
Sharp was going to play on a bad team but get the ice time he wanted.

As much as Clarke made some bad trades, he made some good ones. Not all trades work out.
- phi1671

I knew nothing about Ellison so I asked the guy what we could expect. He swore we'd love him

Yes. That was his best trade, especially since he was able to re-acquire Recchi for Dainius Zubrus a few years later. Clarke made a number of good trades that year: Söderström for Hextall, Galley for Svoboda, Yves Racine for Kevin Haller, Bob Wilkie for Karl Dykhuis.
- bmeltzer

There is no doubting that he made a number of very good deals. When you are a GM for 19 years, you are going to make good deals and bad deals.. It just seems his bad deals were tough ones to swallow.

So then I would say thats Clarke's best trade.
- RooNosHockey

Without question his best trade.

- PLindbergh31

im a mets fan and im over it. or is this just like the shelly crap you have to beat the horse to pulp

What, in your opinion, was Clarkes best trade... Not trying to start a fight either.. I just only remember trades that didnt exactly go our way...

Brindy.. won a cup.
Williams.. won a cup.
Sharp... won a cup.

Thats how I see it. I think Clarke was MUCH better in FA.
- jak521

Gotta be the LeClair/Desjardins for Recchi deal

Only reason people wanted JvR traded is bc he has been a disappointment (injures or not). The Flyers really could use a top notch defenseman and JvR is probably one of your better chips needed to pull that kind of deal off. The Flyers have done a very nice job this year scoring even without JvR and that makes you think he can be expendable for the right return. I dont think people just want to trade JvR unless their getting back a great return.
- stveshdy

It's okay to be disappointed with JvR but I think it's silly to have the mindset to trade him. For me, it's okay to think this way when it comes to a vet but not a kid.

I didn't disagree with you. They're going to be awful.
- bradleyc4

I must admit, I enjoy watching them. It's a guilty pleasure.