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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:39 AM ET
If you're facing a Boston team, with three deep lines who can score or an Islanders team that is basically carried by one line, then it DOES make a bit of a difference.

It's not a knock on Bob, it's a call to get Bob more starts against good teams to see how he handles facing a team with 3 lines that can finish, rather than the Islanders where, if you can keep Tavares off the scoresheet, you likely win the game.

- Jsaquella


Fair point. I guess Laviolette's thinking since Bryzgalov is the starter, he gets the marquee games against the top teams. I wouldn't have a problem with Bob starting more games against teams higher in the standings. Bob was rewarded by his play getting two of the 3 starts vs. the Rangers. He lost both games, but he played fairly well.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:39 AM ET
So Eklund is reporting the Flyers are looking at Nabokov? The Flyers don't want to get burned by not having 3 goalies ready to go for the playoffs? And I saw a bleacher report that the Flyers could trade Bryz to Edmonton for Khabibulin (sp?) and Andy Sutton.

Can't wait to hear what else comes up as we approach the deadline.

- funmaster18


Maybe they're pretty sure there will be amnesty buyouts in the new CBA and they buy out Bryz and re-sign Nabokov.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM ET
I still wonder if Bryz isn't use to a heavier workload and that's how he's gotten out of these funks in the past. Also, it's probably a lot different atmosphere with the press, and attention he gets in Philly. It would definitely be an adjustment.
- Hextall271


He's definately in a whole new world in Philly. Phoenix was a team committed to team defense because they had no choice. The expectations were lower as well. The media much more laid back.

I would bet that he's given up more 5 goal games as a Flyer than he did in 2 seasons as a Coyote.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM ET
I think I said that Bob has better quickness and reflexes than Bryz which allows him to recover faster when the shot comes from the unexpected angle. He is much better going post to post than Bryz. He's definately more comfortable in net than Bryz. For the defense the Flyers have, Bob is the better fit at this time.
- Flyers_01


He looks like the better goaltender in all facets imo. And the team seems to play with more confidence when he is in the cage.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM ET
Fair point. I guess Laviolette's thinking since Bryzgalov is the starter, he gets the marquee games against the top teams. I wouldn't have a problem with Bob starting more games against teams higher in the standings. Bob was rewarded by his play getting two of the 3 starts vs. the Rangers. He lost both games, but he played fairly well.
- PLindbergh31


My point was, I'm not knocking Bob. I have said that I would be looking to get him a few starts against better teams before simply handing it off to Bryzgalov to sink or swim.

Not crazy about just handing it off to Bobrovsky if he's ice cold at the end of the year.

It's not an easy problem.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM ET
It's just stupid. One person saying the Flyers want to get a 3rd goalie and another wants to get rid of one. Just leave our damn goalies alone! Can't anyone find something new to talk about?


- funmaster18


It doesn't make any sense to me. The Flyers are not going to give up on Bryzgalov after 32 starts, and there is zero reason to trade Bobrovsky.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM ET
Maybe they're pretty sure there will be amnesty buyouts in the new CBA and they buy out Bryz and re-sign Nabokov.
- Jsaquella


The only way Bryzgalov gets traded is if he wants out and the other GM is Garth Snow.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM ET
It doesn't make any sense to me. The Flyers are not going to give up on Bryzgalov after 32 starts, and there is zero reason to trade Bobrovsky.
- PLindbergh31


They don't want to trade BOB, they want to get Nabokov so we can have a 3 goalie tandem in the playoffs again
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM ET
my solution...play them each a period per game and then flip a coin for the third period.
Problem solved.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
my solution...play them each a period per game and then flip a coin for the third period.
Problem solved.

- phi1671


Nah they can just make line changes like the rest of the team, why do they get to be treated special?
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
He looks like the better goaltender in all facets imo. And the team seems to play with more confidence when he is in the cage.
- PLindbergh31


He definately has the better post game dance to date.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
The only way Bryzgalov gets traded is if he wants out and the other GM is Garth Snow.
- funmaster18


Even then, not likely.

Snow's not Slick Sammy Pollock, but his biggest issue is Wang.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:45 AM ET
My point was, I'm not knocking Bob. I have said that I would be looking to get him a few starts against better teams before simply handing it off to Bryzgalov to sink or swim.

Not crazy about just handing it off to Bobrovsky if he's ice cold at the end of the year.

It's not an easy problem.

- Jsaquella


These things have a way of sorting themselves out. The simple solution would be for Bryzgalov to perform better, if that doesn't happen Laviolette will have an interesting decision on his hands.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM ET
Nah they can just make line changes like the rest of the team, why do they get to be treated special?
- funmaster18



maybe that will add a little bit more jam to the team
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM ET
They don't want to trade BOB, they want to get Nabokov so we can have a 3 goalie tandem in the playoffs again
- funmaster18




So stash Nabakov in Adirondack until the playoffs, then unleash him in game 5 of a playoff series.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:47 AM ET
These things have a way of sorting themselves out. The simple solution would be for Bryzgalov to perform better, if that doesn't happen Laviolette will have an interesting decision on his hands.
- PLindbergh31


duct tape most of the media. provide them vanilla quotes and ban Bryz from reading the paper.
The internet is humongus so he should be able to find other stuff to read.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:48 AM ET
These things have a way of sorting themselves out. The simple solution would be for Bryzgalov to perform better, if that doesn't happen Laviolette will have an interesting decision on his hands.
- PLindbergh31


I'm just thinking that there's a school of thought that Bryzgalov needs to be handed the ball and run with it for a stretch to get better. So far Laviolette has been pretty consistent with going back to Bob when Bryzgalov has a rough go.

I don't envy him.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:48 AM ET


So stash Nabakov in Adirondack until the playoffs, then unleash him in game 5 of a playoff series.

- PLindbergh31


From Ek's blog, it's priceless:

*The Flyers have been burned before by not having three goalies ready for the playoffs and there are rumors this afternoon that they are interested in Nabokov.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:49 AM ET
duct tape most of the media. provide them vanilla quotes and ban Bryz from reading the paper.
The internet is humongus so he should be able to find other stuff to read.

- phi1671


The media is a flat out embarrassment. I loved what Bryzgalov said after the NJ game. Leave me alone and let me play the hockey. If only this was possible.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:50 AM ET
The media is a flat out embarrassment. I loved what Bryzgalov said after the NJ game. Leave me alone and let me play the hockey. If only this was possible.
- PLindbergh31


The Philadelphia hockey media is a (frank)ing joke.

Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:51 AM ET
maybe that will add a little bit more jam to the team
- phi1671


Having Hextall be the goalie coach would add more jam to the goalie position :p. He'd demonstrate the proper form on how to clear opposing players out of your crease with your stick.

It's been a long time since i've seen a Flyers goalie go nuts on a guy crashing the crease. I miss it. I think Hexy put the fear of god in the opposing players heading towards the blue paint.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:51 AM ET
From Ek's blog, it's priceless:

*The Flyers have been burned before by not having three goalies ready for the playoffs and there are rumors this afternoon that they are interested in Nabokov.


- funmaster18




It's comical. What NHL team has 3 goaltenders capable of performing at high level in the playoffs? An argument can be made the Flyers are actually best suited to do that. What NHL team has a third guy in the minors with some playoff success like Leighton has?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:51 AM ET
Having Hextall be the goalie coach would add more jam to the goalie position :p. He'd demonstrate the proper form on how to clear opposing players out of your crease with your stick.

It's been a long time since i've seen a Flyers goalie go nuts on a guy crashing the crease. I miss it. I think Hexy put the fear of god in the opposing players heading towards the blue paint.

- Flyers_01


Giving up 45 foot, unscreened 5 hole goals also kept guys away from the crease.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:53 AM ET


It's comical. What NHL team has 3 goaltenders capable of performing at high level in the playoffs? An argument can be made the Flyers are actually best suited to do that. What NHL team has a third guy in the minors with some playoff success like Leighton has?

- PLindbergh31


Eklund just got around to reading Elliotte Friedman's 30 thoughts from a few weeks ago that praised the Flyers, and said if they felt neither Bob or Bryz could get it done they wouldn't hesitate to go after a third goalie
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:54 AM ET


It's comical. What NHL team has 3 goaltenders capable of performing at high level in the playoffs? An argument can be made the Flyers are actually best suited to do that. What NHL team has a third guy in the minors with some playoff success like Leighton has?

- PLindbergh31


I don't know, but with Nabokov and Leighton pushing each other down the stretch the Flyers are going to be a force to be reckoned with come playoff time. They will dress 3 goalies and rotate them throughout the period to keep team's guessing since "the book is out" on BOB and Bryz.
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