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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:19 AM ET
How do you explain Bobrovsky playing behind the same defense posting a 2.42 gaa, and .919 save %? And I don't want to hear any nonsense about Bobrovsky playing against weaker opponents.
- PLindbergh31


I still wonder if Bryz isn't use to a heavier workload and that's how he's gotten out of these funks in the past. Also, it's probably a lot different atmosphere with the press, and attention he gets in Philly. It would definitely be an adjustment.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:19 AM ET
Hopefully we will all look back and laugh about this horrible start to Bryz's career as a Flyer.
- Buts16


Hopefully being the key word. Nothing amusing about it thus far, overall have to be pleased with the place in the standings. On pace for 108 points, one more than last year.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:22 AM ET
Tim Thomas.
- hockeylover


Isn't he boycotting the ASG because he isn't happy about the way the league is being run?

I still say that's bull. He's a bear hunting hick who doesn't like Democrats that tax and spend. Simple as that.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:24 AM ET
Hopefully being the key word. Nothing amusing about it thus far, overall have to be pleased with the place in the standings. On pace for 108 points, one more than last year.
- PLindbergh31


If we play like the first half and the tending kicks in, this team may be a tough out in the playoffs. The vast improvement in goaltending and improvement in overall d being key.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:25 AM ET
I didn't know that.

I still say it won't be Hartnell.

That said if any player could take it in stride he would be the one.

- Buts16



ASG is not exactly Hartnell's kind of game.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
I still wonder if Bryz isn't use to a heavier workload and that's how he's gotten out of these funks in the past. Also, it's probably a lot different atmosphere with the press, and attention he gets in Philly. It would definitely be an adjustment.
- Hextall271


I think it's a combination of a pressurized atmosphere, (in Phoenix no one cares about hockey) and getting used to a new system. Still plenty of time to right the ship. 34 regular season games left, I would suspect Bryzgalov would get around 22-23 more starts or so. That would only give him 54-55 starts on the season. He's averaged over 66 starts the previous 3 seasons in Phoenix. I guess the silver lining here is he should be well rested for the playoffs.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM ET
Anyone else think Hartnell will be picked last at the ASG draft?
- Dkos

No. Although if he is, he'll make it funny.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
I think it's a combination of a pressurized atmosphere, (in Phoenix no one cares about hockey) and getting used to a new system. Still plenty of time to right the ship. 34 regular season games left, I would suspect Bryzgalov would get around 22-23 more starts or so. That would only give him 54-55 starts on the season. He's averaged over 66 starts the previous 3 seasons in Phoenix. I guess the silver lining here is he should be well rested for the playoffs.
- PLindbergh31



I did hear Lava say in an interview, a week or 2 ago, that they wanted to keep Bryz fresh for the playoffs and keep his starts around 60ish games.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
How do you explain Bobrovsky playing behind the same defense posting a 2.42 gaa, and .919 save %? And I don't want to hear any nonsense about Bobrovsky playing against weaker opponents.
- PLindbergh31


OK, then you're not allowed to complain when they lose to a team like Carolina. Because if people can't use the factual example of a weaker team not being able to convert like a better beam, then it also doesn't fly when you cry about losing to the Isles or another weak team.

Most people who mention Bob's stats against weaker teams do so as an indication that he should get more games against the better teams to see how he responds.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
If we play like the first half and the tending kicks in, this team may be a tough out in the playoffs. The vast improvement in goaltending and improvement in overall d being key.
- Hextall271


With a healthy lineup, and better goaltending the Flyers will definitely be a tough out in the playoffs.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:29 AM ET
Lupul is one of Hartnell's best friends, he won't got last IMO.

I could see a goalie going last

- Buts16

All three goalies have to be picked by round 10 and all defensemen by round 15. It will be a forward.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:29 AM ET
Or you can say he has gotten the 2 months of below .900 save percentage out of the way!


- ggunky

That's what I was thinking!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM ET
I did hear Lava say in an interview, a week or 2 ago, that they wanted to keep Bryz fresh for the playoffs and keep his starts around 60ish games.
- ggunky


I don't even see him getting to 60. He would have to start 28 of the final 34 games to get to 60 starts. That isn't happening.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM ET
All three goalies have to be picked by round 10 and all defensemen by round 15. It will be a forward.
- bodiva88


New avatar is really throwing me off!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM ET
All three goalies have to be picked by round 10 and all defensemen by round 15. It will be a forward.
- bodiva88


I was hoping it'd be Ovechkin.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
So Eklund is reporting the Flyers are looking at Nabokov? The Flyers don't want to get burned by not having 3 goalies ready to go for the playoffs? And I saw a bleacher report that the Flyers could trade Bryz to Edmonton for Khabibulin (sp?) and Andy Sutton.

Can't wait to hear what else comes up as we approach the deadline.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
OK, then you're not allowed to complain when they lose to a team like Carolina. Because if people can't use the factual example of a weaker team not being able to convert like a better beam, then it also doesn't fly when you cry about losing to the Isles or another weak team.

Most people who mention Bob's stats against weaker teams do so as an indication that he should get more games against the better teams to see how he responds.

- Jsaquella


As I pointed out in a post in another thread, the weak/strong opponent thing doesn't really apply imo. If the entire team isn't ready to compete on a nightly basis, it doesn't matter who the opponent is. As Bill pointed out in this blog, if it were not for Bobrovsky the Flyers would have zero points against the Islanders, instead of four. And the Islanders are supposedly the worst team in the Eastern Conference.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
With a healthy lineup, and better goaltending the Flyers will definitely be a tough out in the playoffs.
- PLindbergh31


Well it won't be healthy until Prongs is back and that ain't happening. It's pretty clear that Homer masterfully crafted this roster. If we had a full healthy lineup and added a Bryz playing well, this team would be one of the favorites to come out of the East IMO.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM ET
New avatar is really throwing me off!
- funmaster18

I was asked, and conceded in solidarity. I'm not sure why we are a MASH unit during the break. But I'll go back to my zebra profession and clownfish flyers colors before the playoffs at the very least.

(And this from a guy with a 3-avatar rotation! )
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:34 AM ET
I was asked, and conceded in solidarity. I'm not sure why we are a MASH unit during the break. But I'll go back to my zebra profession and clownfish flyers colors before the playoffs at the very least.

(And this from a guy with a 3-avatar rotation! )

- bodiva88


at least mine have a common theme! I'm just used to seeing that sebra and fish, it's like MJL with his new Avatar. I have trouble with change
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
How do you explain Bobrovsky playing behind the same defense posting a 2.42 gaa, and .919 save %? And I don't want to hear any nonsense about Bobrovsky playing against weaker opponents.
- PLindbergh31



I think I said that Bob has better quickness and reflexes than Bryz which allows him to recover faster when the shot comes from the unexpected angle. He is much better going post to post than Bryz. He's definately more comfortable in net than Bryz. For the defense the Flyers have, Bob is the better fit at this time.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
So Eklund is reporting the Flyers are looking at Nabokov? The Flyers don't want to get burned by not having 3 goalies ready to go for the playoffs? And I saw a bleacher report that the Flyers could trade Bryz to Edmonton for Khabibulin (sp?) and Andy Sutton.

Can't wait to hear what else comes up as we approach the deadline.

- funmaster18


Bryzgalov's contract wouldn't be touched by any team with a Sequoia tree. The only way another goaltender would be acquired would be if Bob was traded. And I do not see any way that makes sense. If Bob was traded, the most likely scenario would Leighton becoming the backup.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
Well it won't be healthy until Prongs is back and that ain't happening. It's pretty clear that Homer masterfully crafted this roster. If we had a full healthy lineup and added a Bryz playing well, this team would be one of the favorites to come out of the East IMO.
- Hextall271


He's done a great job since taking over. I assumed once he was promoted after Clarkie it would just be more of the same. I was pleasantly surprised
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
As I pointed out in a post in another thread, the weak/strong opponent thing doesn't really apply imo. If the entire team isn't ready to compete on a nightly basis, it doesn't matter who the opponent is. As Bill pointed out in this blog, if it were not for Bobrovsky the Flyers would have zero points against the Islanders, instead of four. And the Islanders are supposedly the worst team in the Eastern Conference.
- PLindbergh31


If you're facing a Boston team, with three deep lines who can score or an Islanders team that is basically carried by one line, then it DOES make a bit of a difference.

It's not a knock on Bob, it's a call to get Bob more starts against good teams to see how he handles facing a team with 3 lines that can finish, rather than the Islanders where, if you can keep Tavares off the scoresheet, you likely win the game.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
Bryzgalov's contract wouldn't be touched by any team with a Sequoia tree. The only way another goaltender would be acquired would be if Bob was traded. And I do not see any way that makes sense. If Bob was traded, the most likely scenario would Leighton becoming the backup.
- PLindbergh31


It's just stupid. One person saying the Flyers want to get a 3rd goalie and another wants to get rid of one. Just leave our damn goalies alone! Can't anyone find something new to talk about?

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