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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 26 @ 12:29 PM ET
Never. And I wouldn't trade Streit; he may not be a #1 D-man anymore at 33/34 years old but he's still effective, a good leader and only makes $4M a year. I'd keep him. I'd also look into re-signing Parenteau because he's proven he can be a top six or top nine option for this team going forward. And as great as guys like Kabanov, Petrov, etc. might be, Parenteau is already on pace for 70+ points this season. Lock him up. If the Islanders stay scorching hot and the playoffs become realistic, I'd keep Nabokov; otherwise, I'd only trade him if the Islanders got something decent back. I wouldn't just dump him. Staios, the islanders will never get anything for, so they can just waive him with Rolston and Pandolfo.
- isles10289



i have some many problems with this post i just had to come back for more.... lets get something out of the way -- the islanders arent making the playoffs this year and sure as poop arent winning the cup....

having said that what purpose does streit bring to this team for both this year and moving forward??? why wouldnt you trade him?? same for nabakov? granted nabakov PERSONALLY is playing well but the ISLANDERS are tied for last in the eastern conference; so while it may not be nabakovs (or streits) "fault" for not being good, if he can get something good back in return, get it!! this isnt the year and nabby is on the back 9 of his career. get something for the guys!!

lets come to grips with it that the isles still have work to be done!! you got to get somethign for the veterans that have value that wont be around once the rest of the team catches up to the league.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jan 26 @ 12:29 PM ET
Rolston is my hero this year just for that

I would keep Rolston around next year just for pre season and have him do it again

- kasperrko



LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 26 @ 12:40 PM ET
Hey guys been real sick these last few days and even those game sagainst Toronto were a referees bad joke I still feel the Islanders have turned the corner a little. They are playing with a little more oomph and just seem to be getting it. that being said no way the Islanders make a trade. Garth will get picks for whomever he trades. Since the team is doing decent I am sure Wang and snow are fine with that.
- kasperrko



did you totally contradict yourself in back-to-back sentences? thats gotta be some sort of record....
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 26 @ 12:43 PM ET
No way Rolston hits the net twice in one year. And this may sound crazy but I prefer DP over Rolston.
- mighty13duck



it doesnt sounds crazy, it is crazy.

being that were talking about the 2 worst players that are "active" for the islanders, we'll assume that neither player will ever have any value to the team. that being said rolston makes 5 mill, DP makes 4.5 mill this season.....

RDP has 9 years left on his contract.....how could you conceivable like DP over Rolston?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 26 @ 12:50 PM ET
Never. And I wouldn't trade Streit; he may not be a #1 D-man anymore at 33/34 years old but he's still effective, a good leader and only makes $4M a year. I'd keep him. I'd also look into re-signing Parenteau because he's proven he can be a top six or top nine option for this team going forward. And as great as guys like Kabanov, Petrov, etc. might be, Parenteau is already on pace for 70+ points this season. Lock him up. If the Islanders stay scorching hot and the playoffs become realistic, I'd keep Nabokov; otherwise, I'd only trade him if the Islanders got something decent back. I wouldn't just dump him. Staios, the islanders will never get anything for, so they can just waive him with Rolston and Pandolfo.
- isles10289

If you don't want to trade Streit than you don't want to see this team get better via trade. He is our best trade chip. He has value in his skill (even if he's having a down season) and he's on a very affordable contract. Add to that the fact that he has another year on that contract, which A) gives him more value than a rental, raising his price and B) Gives us the option to decline any offers that don't hit it out of the park for us. If we wait until next year when he'll be a UFA after the season's end were going to have to take whatever the best offer we get is, or risk letting him walk for free.

You ask me...I'd put Grabner on the block too and see who bites.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
If you don't want to trade Streit than you don't want to see this team get better via trade. He is our best trade chip. He has value in his skill (even if he's having a down season) and he's on a very affordable contract. Add to that the fact that he has another year on that contract, which A) gives him more value than a rental, raising his price and B) Gives us the option to decline any offers that don't hit it out of the park for us. If we wait until next year when he'll be a UFA after the season's end were going to have to take whatever the best offer we get is, or risk letting him walk for free.

You ask me...I'd put Grabner on the block too and see who bites.

- eichiefs9



id literally put everyone on the block and see what everyone can fetch us. including JT (not saying id give the guy away; i would certainly listen)
Flynox
Buffalo Sabres
Location: McEichel
Joined: 06.16.2011

Jan 26 @ 12:56 PM ET
id literally put everyone on the block and see what everyone can fetch us. including JT (not saying id give the guy away; i would certainly listen)
- LetsGoIsles

What do you guys think you can get for a guy like Grabner?
His salary cap is not bad.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
What do you guys think you can get for a guy like Grabner?
His salary cap is not bad.

- Flynox

I honestly couldn't tell you. He's got all-world speed and potted 34 goals last year. That said, he has no hands and not much of a shot, as well as little hockey sense. He's got an active stick and is a quality penalty killer. If he had half a set of decent hands he could score 50 a year with all the breakaways he gets.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jan 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
What do you guys think you can get for a guy like Grabner?
His salary cap is not bad.

- Flynox


I dont think Grabner alone would bring us anything back that would make us any better immediately. Equal maybe but not better. Kind of a one for one Peter pays Paul trade.
So I wouldnt float him around to the league right now.

But use him to spice up a package deal that included Striet, Grabner and a prospect or pick and now your talking. That is a recipe for getting some very good value in return. Of course there has to be a team looking to part with a pretty good player and in need of a Vet "D", a 20+ goal speedster, and a future prospect.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
I dont think Grabner alone would bring us anything back that would make us any better immediately. Equal maybe but not better. Kind of a one for one Peter pays Paul trade.
So I wouldnt float him around to the league right now.

But use him to spice up a package deal that included Striet, Grabner and a prospect or pick and now your talking. That is a recipe for getting some very good value in return. Of course there has to be a team looking to part with a pretty good player and in need of a Vet "D", a 20+ goal speedster, and a future prospect.

- SCLI

Eveyones saying package Grabner for a D man. The only problem is we have no secondary scoring besides him. So if he goes we truly are a one line team. Plus I still see his upside. I would trade Streit and a couple of prospects and a pick for something though.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jan 26 @ 1:37 PM ET
Eveyones saying package Grabner for a D man. The only problem is we have no secondary scoring besides him. So if he goes we truly are a one line team. Plus I still see his upside. I would trade Streit and a couple of prospects and a pick for something though.
- mighty13duck


Yes and with Grabners 14 goals we are still last in the league in scoring and last in our division standings. So how does it HURT us to add Grabner to a package to obtain legitimate help? And I didnt restrict myself to trading for "D" help. Although the right "D" man can spark an offense.

Here is a thought. Would you (anyone) trade Striet straight up for 22 yr old Luke Schenn??

kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jan 26 @ 1:39 PM ET
Trade STreit Nielson, Bailey a top end prospect and a pick and get us some players who know what the back of the net is. You can probbaly get a decent forward and defenseman for that. Maybe PAP if you want a bigger return as well. Who ever is a free agent at the end of the yeat Snow should talk to them and say listen you want to play here next year or not if they say not really then trade them quick. I can see him not trading anyone just to see them all walk at the end of the year and we get nothing
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
Yes and with Grabners 14 goals we are still last in the league in scoring and last in our division standings. So how does it HURT us to add Grabner to a package to obtain legitimate help? And I didnt restrict myself to trading for "D" help. Although the right "D" man can spark an offense.

Here is a thought. Would you (anyone) trade Striet straight up for 22 yr old Luke Schenn??

- SCLI

Yes to the last sentence.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
Yes and with Grabners 14 goals we are still last in the league in scoring and last in our division standings. So how does it HURT us to add Grabner to a package to obtain legitimate help? And I didnt restrict myself to trading for "D" help. Although the right "D" man can spark an offense.

Here is a thought. Would you (anyone) trade Striet straight up for 22 yr old Luke Schenn??

- SCLI

I would swap Streit for Schenn straight up, but I doubt Toronto would. They just re-signed JML for 4 years, he's their puck-mover/PP guy. That's the reason Schenn (or Franson) may end up being available.

I agree that were clearly nothing special with Grabner's points, so why not work on getting someone who can help keep goals OUT of our net.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
Eveyones saying package Grabner for a D man. The only problem is we have no secondary scoring besides him. So if he goes we truly are a one line team. Plus I still see his upside. I would trade Streit and a couple of prospects and a pick for something though.
- mighty13duck


Yeah I don't want to see Grabner traded.... I was talking to Bruins fans yesterday and to a man they say no shot Bruins will trade Doug H. I think if the Isles offered them Streit for Doug H they should jump at it b/c it may be the difference between repeating for cup. you have to take that shot when u get them... they may not be back in this position for a long time.. u never know.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:46 PM ET
So your saying Rolston has earned every penny of his $5 Million dollars!!
- SCLI

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
Yes and with Grabners 14 goals we are still last in the league in scoring and last in our division standings. So how does it HURT us to add Grabner to a package to obtain legitimate help? And I didnt restrict myself to trading for "D" help. Although the right "D" man can spark an offense.

Here is a thought. Would you (anyone) trade Striet straight up for 22 yr old Luke Schenn??

- SCLI


You would never get Schenn for a 34 yr old player. Leafs would not trade Schenn for a 34 yr old #99. Well maybe Gretz.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
Yeah I don't want to see Grabner traded.... I was talking to Bruins fans yesterday and to a man they say no shot Bruins will trade Doug H. I think if the Isles offered them Streit for Doug H they should jump at it b/c it may be the difference between repeating for cup. you have to take that shot when u get them... they may not be back in this position for a long time.. u never know.
- niteislander



first of all -- not being sarcastic-- what does "to a man" mean?

and of course you would want the bruins to trade Hamilton for Streit "bc it may be the difference between repeasting for cup"....but only cause youre an islanders fan. if thats a deal the Bruins are ready to make that would be a STEAL for the isles.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yeah I don't want to see Grabner traded.... I was talking to Bruins fans yesterday and to a man they say no shot Bruins will trade Doug H. I think if the Isles offered them Streit for Doug H they should jump at it b/c it may be the difference between repeating for cup. you have to take that shot when u get them... they may not be back in this position for a long time.. u never know.
- niteislander

No way Boston moves Hamilton for Streit in a straight-up swap. Streit doesn't put that team over the top for a cup. They're championship grade without Streit, Streit would just make them better. Certainly not better to the degree that it would be smart for them to move a potential franchise d-man for Streit.

If the Isles want Hamilton, they'll have to give up Streit + more. It all depends on what that "more" is.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
No way Boston moves Hamilton for Streit in a straight-up swap. Streit doesn't put that team over the top for a cup. They're championship grade without Streit, Streit would just make them better. Certainly not better to the degree that it would be smart for them to move a potential franchise d-man for Streit.

If the Isles want Hamilton, they'll have to give up Streit + more. It all depends on what that "more" is.

- Jethro09

Where did this nonsense rumor even come from?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
first of all -- not being sarcastic-- what does "to a man" mean?

and of course you would want the bruins to trade Hamilton for Streit "bc it may be the difference between repeasting for cup"....but only cause youre an islanders fan. if thats a deal the Bruins are ready to make that would be a STEAL for the isles.

- LetsGoIsles


"to a Man" .. same as saying Every one of them said Hamilton is untouchable.

Boston needs a solid puck moving D-man. Especially for their PP. kaberle was a guy they picked up last year and he had 11 assists in their cup run. He was traded for Wheeler who was once untouchable. Would this be a great trade for the Islanders.. yes. That said if I am in Boston office I make the trade b/c one thing all Islander fans should know better than most is you just don't know with prospects. When you have a shot at the cup you HAVE to take the shot b/c u don't know when it comes crashing down on top of you.. ask Pittsburgh.

Doug H may be the next pronger of Chara.. then again he may be Chris Philips. or Wishart, Robin Sadler, of Scott Scissons (I know he is not a defenseman.. save it .. u get the point).
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jan 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Where did this nonsense rumor even come from?
- eichiefs9


We were talking about it yesterday b/c Snow is supposedly shopping Streit and Boston is one of the teams interested in him. "nonsense rumor" .. for a guy on hockeybuzz boards you are pretty Glib.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
some of u guys are crazy, lol, keep this player, resign this one, get rid of that one for the moon.........

Let reality kick in, an realize this team needs TALENTED PLAYERS, an a professional COACH. There are only a few players on the team u keep an build around, the rest could go.

This year we have assets to trade, now its up to Snow to see what kind of GM he is/or what kind of return we can get back.

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
We were talking about it yesterday b/c Snow is supposedly shopping Streit and Boston is one of the teams interested in him. "nonsense rumor" .. for a guy on hockeybuzz boards you are pretty Glib.
- niteislander

Streit for Dougie Hamilton IS nonsense. Streit to anywhere is plausible, but Streit for any teams top defensive prospect is complete horsecrap. Where exactly was there any news on Snow "supposedly shopping" Streit, let alone Boston expressing interest. Don't even waste your time responding if you're going to tell me Eklund or Incarcerated Bob said it.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
No way Rolston hits the net twice in one year. And this may sound crazy but I prefer DP over Rolston.
- mighty13duck



I prefer getting AIDS over Rolston
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