also im not sure clb would do that trade but that would be all that i would pay

I predicted Liles would have 5 goals and 40 assists in september. I wonder how his stats are doing...

So you think

Gardiner
Grabovki
Komisarek
1st

for Stasnty is fair? Hell no.

Take Gardiner out, then maybe.
- jbold

Good god, why insinuate that Gardiner is going anywhere in the first place. To assume that BB would sooner give up Jake before Nazem is absurd.

My think with regards to the most convenient asset package BB can offer is:

Grabovski - Kadri - 1st

Those three could fetch a lot, depending on where they go. Grabovski is the wildcard as he's only a truly big trade chip to a contender, or if he agrees to a new deal upon being traded. The reason I say so, is because despite how well he's played, he won't get us to the promised land over the medium-long term, so cash in while his value is high(see: location)

The obvious question for BB, in light of giving Liles a much deserved extension, is what to do with the Turdisarek, Komi.

4.5 per for a guy that hasn't played better than really anyone on the roster so far(perhaps Schenn, but he's younger, has better cap hit and potential, so keep him unless the right deal comes).

If we can somehow get 2 deals going(bear with me, it's a stretch but it's not retarded), then we're in good posiiton.

Schenn
Mac
3rd
-------
JVR
1st
B. Kessel

&

Grabs
cond. 2nd if he doesn't resign
--------
CHI's 1st
cond. 1st in 2013 if they win the cup this year


Then we can package both of CHI's and PHI's 1sts along with Kadri to land us something truly solid.

***Special note to Greg Mckegg, who, with a leg for an arm, and an arm for a leg, has been tearing it up since moving to the London Knights. He's untouchable. A true steal of his draft year

the plus could be someone of equal or maybe greater value then Connolly but connolly would be his replacement in the deal

i have no argument lol, all i said is what dreger said, are u 6? do u want a bigger medal or something.
- leafsdc

But you said it so generally: Clb wants a roster player and a 1st.

What Dregger said was they want a similar package to what the gave up (which was a 22yo roster player and 8thoverall)

To suggest they would take Grabovski and 15th-ish pick is nutzo.

But you said it so generally: Clb wants a roster player and a 1st.

What Dregger said was they want a similar package to what the gave up (which was a 22yo roster player and 8thoverall)

To suggest they would take Grabovski and 15th-ish pick is nutzo.
- Schennski

Carter's value has dropped. They aren't going to get a similar package

But you said it so generally: Clb wants a roster player and a 1st.

What Dregger said was they want a similar package to what the gave up (which was a 22yo roster player and 8thoverall)

To suggest they would take Grabovski and 15th-ish pick is nutzo.
- Schennski

We'd need to cash in on Grab's value to a contender then flip picks along with a roster player like Kadri in order to land Nash.

I don't want anything to do with Carter, and I'm glad BB has the sense not to tie tthe organization down with dumb contracts. It's jsut something about his attitude.

I'd like Stats. I think the fact that he doesn't have size makes it a bit questionable, so we would have to insist that a big contract like Komi goes the other way

[quote=AngryWhiteMale]Good god, why insinuate that Gardiner is going anywhere in the first place. To assume that BB would sooner give up Jake before Nazem is absurd.

My think with regards to the most convenient asset package BB can offer is:

Grabovski - Kadri - 1st

Those three could fetch a lot, depending on where they go. Grabovski is the wildcard as he's only a truly big trade chip to a contender, or if he agrees to a new deal upon being traded. The reason I say so, is because despite how well he's played, he won't get us to the promised land over the medium-long term, so cash in while his value is high(see: location)

The obvious question for BB, in light of giving Liles a much deserved extension, is what to do with the Turdisarek, Komi.

4.5 per for a guy that hasn't played better than really anyone on the roster so far(perhaps Schenn, but he's younger, has better cap hit and potential, so keep him unless the right deal comes).

If we can somehow get 2 deals going(bear with me, it's a stretch but it's not retarded), then we're in good posiiton.

Schenn
Mac
3rd
-------
JVR
1st
B. Kessel

&

Grabs
cond. 2nd if he resigns
--------
CHI's 1st
cond. 1st in 2013 if they win the cup this year


Then we can package both of CHI's and PHI's 1sts along with Kadri to land us something truly solid.

A lot in there to reply to, but i'd say the main difference between Kadri and gardner is offense is a need and we have lots of D, next year Dion, Schenn, Franson, JML, Gunnar, komi, gardner, Aullie, even Holzer will be in a fight for spots, we waste talent with that many D.
And moving komi wont be easy, we would have to give up a draft pick just to give him away, he has a limited no movement clause too.

Carter's value has dropped. They aren't going to get a similar package
- Atomic Wedgie

Although I'm not big Carter fan.

something along the lines of Macarthur, Komisarek, D'amigo and 2013 1st, might be a good package for Carter and Pahlsson (assuming Pahlsson is still there)...

some cap has to go back to the Jackets in a deal. If one is to be made.

Carter's value has dropped. They aren't going to get a similar package
- Atomic Wedgie

Tell dregger!

They'll take less for him, but considering what they traded in the first place they cant just give up and dump him.

Carter's value has dropped. They aren't going to get a similar package
- Atomic Wedgie

Kadri and a 1st...

We'd need to cash in on Grab's value to a contender then flip picks along with a roster player like Kadri in order to land Nash.

I don't want anything to do with Carter, and I'm glad BB has the sense not to tie tthe organization down with dumb contracts. It's jsut something about his attitude.

I'd like Stats. I think the fact that he doesn't have size makes it a bit questionable, so we would have to insist that a big contract like Komi goes the other way
- AngryWhiteMale

Grabbo could go to Chicago in a deal, at the deadline for a couple picks..
mutual fit there.

Kadri and a 1st...
- Fruitcakenipple

would the leafs have the cap space to just delete kadri in a deal for Carter?

Kadri and a 1st...
- Fruitcakenipple

For 11 years of uncertainty at a $5.25 cap hit.....I'd rather take my chances on the youth and scouting/prospecting for the next couple years...

would the leafs have the cap space to just delete kadri in a deal for Carter?
- aries1976

Nope....

would the leafs have the cap space to just delete kadri in a deal for Carter?
- aries1976

Details...

For 11 years of uncertainty at a $5.25 cap hit.....I'd rather take my chances on the youth and scouting/prospecting for the next couple years...
- RPAR9

I personally don't think Kadri would be involved in a deal for Carter, unless there isn't a first round pick included.. very much doubt Burke deals both in a deal for Carter, a guy he least valued out of the 2 Philly Center's that left town.

For 11 years of uncertainty at a $5.25 cap hit.....I'd rather take my chances on the youth and scouting/prospecting for the next couple years...
- RPAR9

and go 9-10 years with no playoffs??.......Yep thats Burke's plan...

Details...
- AdamFrench

Focus...

Although I'm not big Carter fan.

something along the lines of Macarthur, Komisarek, D'amigo and 2013 1st, might be a good package for Carter and Pahlsson (assuming Pahlsson is still there)...

some cap has to go back to the Jackets in a deal. If one is to be made.
- aries1976

Wow, you think CBJ would do that for real. an overpaid dman Mac, a very middling prospect and a first. for a young forty goal Scorer. if that was doable Burke woulda did it! plus Columbus is probably not on komi's list of teams to be traded to.

A lot in there to reply to, but i'd say the main difference between Kadri and gardner is offense is a need and we have lots of D, next year Dion, Schenn, Franson, JML, Gunnar, komi, gardner, Aullie, even Holzer will be in a fight for spots, we waste talent with that many D.
And moving komi wont be easy, we would have to give up a draft pick just to give him away, he has a limited no movement clause too.
- ky678468

The key to mainting the depth of this blueline is cap manageability.

- Dion's not perfect, but he's matured into a captain that at least puts up enough points to compensate for his defensive deficiencies.
- Liles has been a pleasant surprise. The fact that he took a modest pay cut to play in this city shows his commitment. Veteran leadership is appreciated
- Gunnarsson has been the most consistent Dman we've had the last two seasons. His skill set means he won't necessarily be hard to lock up for decent cap hit and believe me, we'd notice his abscence. When guys went down, he took on a bigger role admirably
- Aulie: How many guys in the league are under 25, over 6'4'', and despite their height, still be able to skate and be effective with the puck.
- Gardiner: Nothing to say to say that you probably haven't figured out yourself.
- Schenn: If the right deal comes, it comes. Otherwise, I truly believe we will see him regain his form as he matures. The reason we need to play hardball with PHI is because we'd face him on a regular basis and would sufffer the consequences of him and his brother on the same team. That's the Dragonball Z equivelant of going Super Saiyen.

My point: Those 6 are the future. The key to that is maintaining cap manageability, so that we have the space to acquire necessary firepower up front. That is one thing I think BB will be able to do.

and go 9-10 years with no playoffs??.......Yep thats Burke's plan...
- Fruitcakenipple

So you think Jeff Carter is the solution? I'd say he is one of the least type(s) of player they need at the moment.

Focus...
- A_Tree

A Tree

So you think Jeff Carter is the solution? I'd say he is one of the least type(s) of player they need at the moment.
- RPAR9

He's the type pf player we need at half the term, and slightly less per annum.

BB understands how important cap management is to building a winner long-term.

For example.

If CHI didn't have Christobal Huet & Brian Campbell locked up for a combined 13m per year, Byfuglien, Versteeg, Brouwer, Niemi and Ladd would probably all still be Hawks

A Tree
- AdamFrench

6 days untill FF XIII-2.