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B-Leaf
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your mother's house, ON
Joined: 06.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
MAYBE...just MAYBE if we get Getzlaf, Parise would consider signing here...but not only is that dependant on Getzlaf being traded, it also depends on Parise hitting the market...so if you havnt already guess, Im saying it aint gonna happen.
- noename09



Do you think we could trade for both Getz and Parise with the following?:

For Getzlaf
2013 1st
Schenn
Grabovski
Lombardi

For Parise
MacArthur
Scrivens
Holzer
2014 1st

Maybe not....what would you have to add from out prospect pool or picks to get these deals done? I assume NJ would like more prospects at G and maybe D. ANA will need a servicable center, Schenn, and some depth up front, and a pick (I don't think the Getzlaf propsal is that far off...)
What would it take to get an RFA Parise? There are not a lot of contenders that will add him as a rental (are there?, contenders that can even fit him in?). What more would it take?

I really think looking at that line up that we could be a top contender in the east.

I think Kessel is a 2nd line RW on a Stanley Cup team...and that is how we are paying him...

Lupul-Getzlaf-Parise
Kadri-Connolly-Kessel
Kulemin-Bozak-Army
Brown-Steckel-Crabb

Phanuef-Liles
Gunnarson-Franson
Gardiner-Komisarek
Aulie



CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($4.250m) / Ryan Getzlaf ($5.325m) / Zach Parise ($6.000m)
Nazem Kadri ($1.720m) / Tim Connolly ($4.750m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.750m) / Tyler Bozak ($1.500m) / Colby Armstrong ($3.000m)
Mike Brown ($0.736m) / David Steckel ($1.100m) / Joey Crabb ($1.125m)
Darryl Boyce ($0.900m) / Jay Rosehill ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / John-Michael Liles ($3.875m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($1.325m) / Cody Franson ($1.400m)
Mike Komisarek ($4.500m) / Jake Gardiner ($1.116m)
Keith Aulie ($1.333m)

GOALTENDERS
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m) / James Reimer ($1.800m)

BUYOUTS: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,006,667; BONUSES: $1,062,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $293,333
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 26 @ 4:41 PM ET


*backs away slowly, throws sand in your face ....runs away laughing

- billyberg10

Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
Well that's kind of anti climactic. Nothing about the Russian Mafia? Maybe even hunting wooly mammoths?
- weirdoh


There was more detail to said story but it was a funny read. JFJ talked about how drunk he ended up getting and how he woke up the next morning thinking that he might have promised some dumb things to the kid and yadda yadda.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jan 26 @ 4:43 PM ET

- Atomic Wedgie



I wonder if there's an actual belt that says "World's Most Perfectly Developed Man"? That would be sick
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
Meh. Scouting is only one part of it.

Development is the second part.

There's a lot of politics in the draft. Guys fall based on their passports, or because they said something that made managers "worried".

A guy like Datsyuk was HIGHLY touted from the beginning but there were worries about his body, passport and whether his game would even translate. He was high risk/high reward.

That being said, the Wings have a great European scout in Hakan Andersson, where they do fairly well. Toronto has Tommie Bergmann who does well overseas as well. Heck, it's a competition between those two sometimes. The Leafs traded up to grab Olden knowing full well Andersson wanted him.

The draft process just isn't very black/white sometimes.

- Brian Huddle

what development did they do with Datsyuk? Or any of their stars for that matter?

Not one of the big-3 spent any time in the AHL, just went straight from Europe
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
Detroit has 2 loses at home....Stl has 3........both teams play like poope on the road.......why?........could last line change be that freakin inportant?
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
Why do you ask?

Buy me a drink, sailor?

- Atomic Wedgie


ok?....odd request....but sure.....
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
I wonder if there's an actual belt that says "World's Most Perfectly Developed Man"? That would be sick
- weirdoh

Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
what development did they do with Datsyuk? Or any of their stars for that matter?

Not one of the big-3 spent any time in the AHL, just went straight from Europe

- Feeling Glucky?


Playing in general is development. Whether with European leagues, CHL teams, NCAA, AHL, or even NHL time. It's about putting guys in positions to succeed, mentoring them on a mental level, and then putting them into programs (fitness, diet, skating, whatever) to get them to where they need to be.

B-Leaf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your mother's house, ON
Joined: 06.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
this ones not even worth discussing....the odds of those two things going down are horrid...
- noename09


I think that if Zack did play out the season (rights traded on draft day), the odds of getting him go up if we have Getz...
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
Detroit has 2 loses at home....Stl has 3........both teams play like poope on the road.......why?........could last line change be that freakin inportant?
- billyberg10


When a lot of your game is based on the D side... yes. Getting the matchup and shutting down lines can be key.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
[quote=B-Leaf]

not sure...little too tired to go over specifics right now
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
I think that if Zack did play out the season (rights traded on draft day), the odds of getting him go up if we have Getz...
- B-Leaf


That's why Montreal traded for Gomez. They saw him as a tool to bring in other UFAs, which they did plenty of that off season.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:49 PM ET

- billyberg10


that cant possibly be real!?!
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
That's why Montreal traded for Gomez. They saw him as a tool to bring in other UFAs, which they did plenty of that off season.
- Brian Huddle


right...but Parise wont hit the market, no way no how. Either gets traded last minute with the intent to sign, or gets resigned.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jan 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
That's why Montreal traded for Gomez. They saw him as a tool to bring in other UFAs, which they did plenty of that off season.
- Brian Huddle




One of the best attempts to justify that trade when it went down.
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
that cant possibly be real!?!
- noename09


I know eh.........its amazing what some men will do to make up for having a tiny pecker
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
And the last pick overall in the 2012 fantasy draft is..............................Jamie Benn!
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:53 PM ET

- billyberg10

WTF IS THAT???? ya think he'd be a little irritable with liver problems
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
right...but Parise wont hit the market, no way no how. Either gets traded last minute with the intent to sign, or gets resigned.
- noename09


They don't have the money for it.

One of the best attempts to justify that trade when it went down.
- weirdoh


It worked though.
B-Leaf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your mother's house, ON
Joined: 06.09.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
I think the odds of getting even one of them are bad enough..getting both is just crazy!

theres no freakn way for one that Parise even hits the market...and its going to take a lot for Murray to move Getzlaf, especially how well Anaheim has been doing of late.

- noename09


Can NJ afford to miss the playoffs this year? I'm not sure they can trade Zack at the deadline, he has a big cap hit for any contenders looking to add him, and is a UFA. I'm not sure the return will be that huge, and they would still get something for him on the draft floor...
leafs_wingp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.29.2008

Jan 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
Brenden Morrow to the Leafs... so says Bob McKenzie...

for Realzzzzzzzz!!!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=386166
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jan 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
I know eh.........its amazing what some men will do to make up for having a tiny pecker
- billyberg10



Should just do what I do, and deal with it.
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
WTF IS THAT????
- JIMI-JAMES


Thats atomic wedgie trying to get down to fight weight
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
Brenden Morrow to the Leafs... so says Bob McKenzie...

for Realzzzzzzzz!!!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=386166

- leafs_wingp


LIAR!
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