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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jan 26 @ 11:42 AM ET
ok, be sure you wear that black mini skirt, and dont forget your stockings this time. unless of course you come fully prepared with a brazilian.
- big_dion




I bought a new white thong, I'll wear it backwards. It looks hot.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
Left handed cigs?
- PTVinnyMac


ganja

PTVinnyMac
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Big Vin Dog... Ya Damn Straigh, ON
Joined: 04.13.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
OMG B RYAN ON THE MOVE TO BUF FOR ROY, BOYES AND JACOB LAGACE + 1st!
- A_Tree


Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
OMG B RYAN ON THE MOVE TO BUF FOR ROY, BOYES AND JACOB LAGACE + 1st!
- A_Tree


JBold gonna be excited......
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
sounds like a good day for a bottle of appletons, a few left handed cigs and some time infront of the tube/computer seeing what goes down!
- big_dion

The last couple of TSN deadline days have been brutal to watch...a lot of twiddling thumbs and wasted on air time...the guys did okay considering....
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jan 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
yes, i agree

but your missing my point guys!

all their picks are either 29th overall or 2nd and third round, thats how its been for 20 years.

i dont even want to know the mess we'd be in if all our drafts were 29th - 200.

- big_dion


We haven't exactly had all our first rounders either....Tlusty 06, Schenn 08, Kadri 09.......Biggs and Percy 11

Detroits last big "steal" draft was 2002.
Overall, the Leafs have had better late picks too.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
capes would also help sell the game in southern markets
- Dozzer


Definitely. Now they just need to modify the zamboni to look like tractors and we'll be all set.
PTVinnyMac
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Big Vin Dog... Ya Damn Straigh, ON
Joined: 04.13.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
ganja


- big_dion


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I will inform you that that slang will be used amidst my circle of friends from now on... Thanks!
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
JBold gonna be excited......
- Fruitcakenipple


I'm going to spread this plague into the Buf thread.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
Tarasenko with a hat-trick right meow
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
Definitely. Now they just need to modify the zamboni to look like tractors and we'll be all set.
- A_Tree




ask and you shall receive

PTVinnyMac
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Big Vin Dog... Ya Damn Straigh, ON
Joined: 04.13.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
Soooo.....
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
We haven't exactly had all our first rounders either....Tlusty 06, Schenn 08, Kadri 09.......Biggs and Percy 11

Detroits last big "steal" draft was 2002.
Overall, the Leafs have had better late picks too.

- mykokes


im not really goona argue, if we were in the playoffs for 20 years straight we'd be doing something right, so as good as you guys may think, or know how our drafts have been, we havnt made the playoffs in like what, 7 years...sooooo...your point is moot.

but, i do agree, we've picked up our socks as of late and been doing some decent drafting.
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Jan 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
I'm going to spread this plague into the Buf thread.
- A_Tree

Buffalo has a thread?!?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I will inform you that that slang will be used amidst my circle of friends from now on... Thanks!
- PTVinnyMac


lol beautiful!

btw Vinny - ive enjoyed your presence around here since you joined.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
The last couple of TSN deadline days have been brutal to watch...a lot of twiddling thumbs and wasted on air time...the guys did okay considering....
- JIMI-JAMES

I'll be on a plane to Mexico this year. Touching down about 10 am local time - quick trip to the airport, check in, get the wifi up, dip in the pool, surround myself with all-inclusive beer, and sit back and keep hitting refresh on the TSN page.

Oh, it's going to be a good vacation.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:49 AM ET
I'll be on a plane to Mexico this year. Touching down about 10 am local time - quick trip to the airport, check in, get the wifi up, dip in the pool, surround myself with all-inclusive beer, and sit back and keep hitting refresh on the TSN page.

Oh, it's going to be a good vacation.

- Atomic Wedgie


sounds like a good time wedgie.

be safe bro!
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jan 26 @ 11:49 AM ET
I'll be on a plane to Mexico this year. Touching down about 10 am local time - quick trip to the airport, check in, get the wifi up, dip in the pool, surround myself with all-inclusive beer, and sit back and keep hitting refresh on the TSN page.

Oh, it's going to be a good vacation.

- Atomic Wedgie



I hope you don't get murdered or beaten. Then have the media act surprised up here when it happens.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:49 AM ET


ask and you shall receive


- Dozzer


This will make me happy for years to come.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jan 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
nvm
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:51 AM ET
Tarasenko with a hat-trick right meow
- AdamFrench


o la la!

how cold is it there Frenchy?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 26 @ 11:51 AM ET
when you look at the names drafted...

Hudler, Howard, Franzen, Kronwall - these are all guys on the team and doing well. you have guys like Kindl, smith who are a year or 2 away from being nhl'ers...

over the years they have lost guys like Yzerman, Federov, Larionov, Hossa, Hull, Coffey, Ciccarelli and im sure a few others im missing.

you dont stick put in the playoffs for 20 years and win like 4 cups if you dont draft well, cmon dude. lol this is a ridiculous!

- big_dion

They got a few great guys from the drafts in the 90s that have kept them competitive, I'm not denying that.

but since that?

Kronwall 1st round

Howard- in the 2nd round of 2003.(only 2 teams failed to get anybody of note in the 1st two rounds)

And Franzen... a 24 year old, who wouldn't even be draftable under the current rules.

and then? Just a whole bunch of role-players.

You also mention a lot of players they've lost... Hull(they didn't draft him) Ciccarelli(they didn't draft him) Yzerman(pretty hard pick to screw up... and really, really long ago), Fedorov- great pick, but it helps that back then, nobody was looking at russians, Larionov(they didn't draft him), Hossa(they didn't draft him), Coffey(they didn't draft him)...

The fact is, the backbone of their team came from getting guys from places nobody else was looking. They don't have the advantage of being the only guys scouting europe anymore. Take away the guys they've drafted since Datsyuk, Lidstrom, and Zetterberg, and they're still making the playoffs year after year and challenging for the cup.

They're good at adding key players through free agency and trade... and with that they can build a good supporting staff around those big 3... but their drafting and development since getting those guys has been average at best.

Their strategy has been to go high-risk high-reward in the draft... and its just not paying off as much anymore.


When you say "We pulled a detroit", you're talking about getting a steal late, and outside of those big-3... they haven't gotten much more than supporting players outside of the top-60.
PTVinnyMac
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Big Vin Dog... Ya Damn Straigh, ON
Joined: 04.13.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:51 AM ET
lol beautiful!

btw Vinny - ive enjoyed your presence around here since you joined.

- big_dion


Thanks man... This looks like the building of a beautiful friendship...

P.S. (Don't be jealous Frenchie)
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
nvm
- mykokes


yeah and what about the 20 years before that?

we drafted absolute garbage most of the time.

like i said we've picked up our socks, but id trade our picks for 20 years of playoffs and 4 cups, just sayin
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
o la la!

how cold is it there Frenchy?

- big_dion

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