the nets are going to brooklyn, theres one revenue stream down the drain
- wingz4life

That is going to be filled by more concerts, and I've read numerous places where bands and singers have raved about the acoustics of the place.

nba are looking into expanding, and bringing another team to nj
- nocupslugs

Really? They don't have enough parity as is, and they want to add more teams.

nba are looking into expanding, and bringing another team to nj
- nocupslugs

?and their also looking at going back to seattle

what i typed is fact, what u typed is speculation

im just saying no one really knows the extent of it other than JVB and the NHL and I believe that some places are blowing it out of proportion, if it was as bad as places are making it sound to be then why have they added salary rather than reduce it, im sure if there was a threat that the league was going to help finance that they would have said reduce payroll where possible rather than add
- nocupslugs

Agreed ^

the nets are going to brooklyn, theres one revenue stream down the drain
- wingz4life

The Nets have never been a significant revenue stream for the Devils. Vanderbeek knew all along they were a temporary deal. The Nets coming in for a year or two were more than Vanderbeek bargained for, it was actually a bonus I'm sure he was happy to get from them.

Regardless, it is quickly becoming THE event and concert center in North Jersey. Every stupid Bieber and Rihanna show that happens at Prudential Center goes to Parise's and Kovy's paycheck, simple as that.

What I'm saying with all of this is that most other teams do not have these assets or revenue stream at all. They are just teams paying rent to the arena (not all, but most teams).

The Devils organization might change hands or majority ownerships but it won't fold, much to the dismay of our friends across the river, and all our buddies at the NY Post.

Really? They don't have enough parity as is, and they want to add more teams.
- nocupslugs

yeah its craazy but its the nba i honestly wouldnt be surprised

its clear that most devils fans arent ready to accept the state that the franchise is currently in.. there were reports coming out last year that the devils were in trouble with their loans
- wingz4life

eh, same state they were in in 1995

I don't ever read the post, it's not reliable....at all. With that said, if you're trying to tell me the Devils don't have any financial issues you're nuts.
- Todd.Cordell

They have issues, for sure. But the "desperate times" that many sensational reporters are trying to depict is far from the truth. A new $375 million arena will cause shifts and moves in ownership. If I spent $1 million dollars on building a state-of-the-art restaurant, I probably wouldn't see pure profit for 8-15 years at least, it's fairly standard.

All JVB is doing is consolidating some of his deals in advance to be able to make the regular loan payments on a better timeline. Many of the pieces within the money-generating mega-puzzle that is Prudential Center are still not fully in place, or they are delayed, thus the revenue is not even half what it its potential is slated to be. Tweaking and tinkering with loan terms and revenue streams are fairly standard when you've just opened a business in the past 5-10 years. A business THAT young is always "technically" on the brink of failure, it's economics and it takes a long time to get back into positive territory on your bottom line.

Honestly this is annoying, if he is getting traded burke should be all over this. So IF he is AVAILABLE, can we acquire him already, NJ is in a good spot in the playoff hunt already and really could use some assets+goalie+youth to just add some more power.

To Toronto: Parise

To New Jersey: 1st Rounder, Joe Colborne or Kadri, Kulemin, Gunner, and Scrivens.

Honestly this is annoying, if he is getting traded burke should be all over this. So IF he is AVAILABLE, can we acquire him already, NJ is in a good spot in the playoff hunt already and really could use some assets+goalie+youth to just add some more power.

To Toronto: Parise

To New Jersey: 1st Rounder, Joe Colborne or Kadri, Kulemin, Gunner, and Scrivens.
- Mapleleafs_91

This has to be the first Toronto proposal I can't argue with. Colborne definitely over Kadri.

Honestly this is annoying, if he is getting traded burke should be all over this. So IF he is AVAILABLE, can we acquire him already, NJ is in a good spot in the playoff hunt already and really could use some assets+goalie+youth to just add some more power.

To Toronto: Parise

To New Jersey: 1st Rounder, Joe Colborne or Kadri, Kulemin, Gunner, and Scrivens.
- Mapleleafs_91

Done.... over payment for a rental. Too bad you aren't the leafs GM.

Honestly this is annoying, if he is getting traded burke should be all over this. So IF he is AVAILABLE, can we acquire him already, NJ is in a good spot in the playoff hunt already and really could use some assets+goalie+youth to just add some more power.

To Toronto: Parise

To New Jersey: 1st Rounder, Joe Colborne or Kadri, Kulemin, Gunner, and Scrivens.
- Mapleleafs_91

"Interesting.... I'm listening." - Lou

Not doubting the credibility of what's been reported.

I do, however, find it to be a very shortsighted solution, particularly for someone with enough business sense to acquire enough wealth to buy a sports franchise.

Whatever revenue they acquire from a semi-final or conference final run (but of a stretch) would not be the equivalent to dumping off salary. (Which could be spun in the media as an effort to make funds to sign Parise)

Point is, long term stability is what matters in these situations, a playoff revenue, though a helpful infusion, would not make or break any franchise. So, I really hope that's not the way they're thinking.

And to whoever dismissed Detroit, I would find them to be very good match for the Devils. Brendan Smith for starters....

Honestly this is annoying, if he is getting traded burke should be all over this. So IF he is AVAILABLE, can we acquire him already, NJ is in a good spot in the playoff hunt already and really could use some assets+goalie+youth to just add some more power.

To Toronto: Parise

To New Jersey: 1st Rounder, Joe Colborne or Kadri, Kulemin, Gunner, and Scrivens.
- Mapleleafs_91

good lord man

Really? They don't have enough parity as is, and they want to add more teams.
- nocupslugs

can you two (frank)s get your own alts. you have both morphed into the same person.

I understand how trading him is a good idea. But they are in playoffs position. If they trade him now, They are writing off their whole season. I dont get it....

can you two (frank)s get your own alts. you have both morphed into the same person.
- shvingter88

It's easy to tell us apart.

It's easy to tell us apart.
- nocupslugs

I'd beg to differ

Done.... over payment for a rental. Too bad you aren't the leafs GM.
- zach parise9

not really an overpayment for us, we still have lots of depth and would benefit both teams, leafs getting a star player for more firepower and you guys benefiting in all certain areas which could help still make a strong playoff push and not fall out. You guys did a similar deal to kovalchuk though in this deal you get a bit more back

I'd beg to differ
- shvingter88

The one who capitalizes and the one who doesn't punctuate or capitalize anything.

Honestly this is annoying, if he is getting traded burke should be all over this. So IF he is AVAILABLE, can we acquire him already, NJ is in a good spot in the playoff hunt already and really could use some assets+goalie+youth to just add some more power.

To Toronto: Parise

To New Jersey: 1st Rounder, Joe Colborne or Kadri, Kulemin, Gunner, and Scrivens.
- Mapleleafs_91

Is Colborne that good? Kadri, Kulemin, Gunnerson, Scrivens are all average... Kadri has some potential but with Henrique's emergence, i'm not interested in another developing player. Parise is a top tier player. Unless we're getting a top tier prospect, i'm not interested

Is Colborne that good? Kadri, Kulemin, Gunnerson, Scrivens are all average... Kadri has some potential but with Henrique's emergence, i'm not interested in another developing player. Parise is a top tier player. Unless we're getting a top tier prospect, i'm not interested
- MartysBetter88

kovalchuk got traded for average players lol

kovalchuk got traded for average players lol
- Mapleleafs_91

Oduya is a solid 3-4 d-man, ala Gunnarsson.
Bergfors was a good offensive winger prospect, ala Kulemin
Cormier was and is a really good prospect at the time, ala Colborne.

Not much of a stretch really.

Is Colborne that good? Kadri, Kulemin, Gunnerson, Scrivens are all average... Kadri has some potential but with Henrique's emergence, i'm not interested in another developing player. Parise is a top tier player. Unless we're getting a top tier prospect, i'm not interested
- MartysBetter88

Colborne is really good. Looks to be another big-bodied center like Antropov and could be another Getzlaf, although that is a big stretch. Kulemin actually has a lot of talent and could be a 30g 30a player. Gunnarsson looks to be like another Andy Greene, another good not great defender. Scrivens is a really good goalie prospect close to being NHL ready.

Oduya is a solid 3-4 d-man, ala Gunnarsson.
Bergfors was a good offensive winger prospect, ala Kulemin
Cormier was and is a really good prospect at the time, ala Colborne.

Not much of a stretch really.
- nocupslugs

i agree with you besides the kulemin and colborne comparison. Bergfors has not amounted to what kulemin has done statistically and colborne is the better prospect 1st rounder than cormier. Gunner compared to oduya are roughly the same tho gunner more defensive.