rival22
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Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY Joined: 02.27.2007
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That will deter him from not doing it anymore.
What a punk.
Awesome comeback win last night! - acdc1206
Only positive, is that he finally has a record. Shannahan has been wildly inconsistent, but he's been pretty harsh on repeat offenders. How Slewbban is on that list. |
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Gunner Staal
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Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY Joined: 04.19.2007
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We hired Don Waddell as a scout, can't say I trust his judgement. |
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canadianpenfan
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Location: Calgary Joined: 05.13.2010
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Sid is seeing spine specialist in California. - Gunner Staal
It is hard to not be really worried about this. |
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brianb0422
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 07.12.2010
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It is hard to not be really worried about this. - stayinthefnnet
I've become a bit "blah" about everything Sid lately. Honestly, if they came out and said he's calling it quits I don't think it would shock me at this point. The team must proceed thinking he won't be there because, well, he hasn't been.
10 games in the calendar year of 2011. Gives it a bit of perspective, I think. |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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I've become a bit "blah" about everything Sid lately. Honestly, if they came out and said he's calling it quits I don't think it would shock me at this point. The team must proceed thinking he won't be there because, well, he hasn't been.
10 games in the calendar year of 2011. Gives it a bit of perspective, I think. - brianb0422
yeah i can definitely understand this. it would not shock me either, and the team definitely cannot wait for him. but it is still too early to just totally shrug off crosby |
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brianb0422
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 07.12.2010
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yeah i can definitely understand this. it would not shock me either, and the team definitely cannot wait for him. but it is still too early to just totally shrug off crosby - stayinthefnnet
Oh for sure. I'd hold a spot for the guy forever but LTIR comes to mind at this point. |
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kgrpitt
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Location: PA Joined: 09.08.2010
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I guess Briere has a concussion. |
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brianb0422
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 07.12.2010
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Oh for sure. I'd hold a spot for the guy forever but LTIR comes to mind at this point. - brianb0422
ill be honest, i really dont feel that putting him on LTIR to get cap relief to and get someone really helps a lot. sure, some scoring depth could help right now, but it could potentially put us in a really bad spot for next year cap wise. |
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kgrpitt
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Location: PA Joined: 09.08.2010
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ill be honest, i really dont feel that putting him on LTIR to get cap relief to and get someone really helps a lot. sure, some scoring depth could help right now, but it could potentially put us in a really bad spot for next year cap wise. - stayinthefnnet
Unless the guy they get has a contract that expires this coming year then next year cap won't be any different then it is going to be now. |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Unless the guy they get has a contract that expires this coming year then next year cap won't be any different then it is going to be now. - kgrpitt
yeah i understand that. I would just hate to give up anything really decent for something that has to walk away at the end of the year. although shero did say the big prospect wont be moved so i dont know. i doubt they would be able to acquire anything that note worthy. |
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kgrpitt
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Location: PA Joined: 09.08.2010
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yeah i understand that. I would just hate to give up anything really decent for something that has to walk away at the end of the year. although shero did say the big prospect wont be moved so i dont know. i doubt they would be able to acquire anything that note worthy. - stayinthefnnet
Definitely understand where you are coming from. Don't want to give up the future for a rental player. I think we have enough depth at D that if we did go out and trade one or two away we wouldn't be putting the future in jeopardy. Trust Shero to do the best thing. |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Definitely understand where you are coming from. Don't want to give up the future for a rental player. I think we have enough depth at D that if we did go out and trade one or two away we wouldn't be putting the future in jeopardy. Trust Shero to do the best thing. - kgrpitt
yeah i understand. i just think that those that feel a player like lovejoy can be flipped to a second line scoring winger are kidding themselves. It takes quality to get quality, and while lovejoy is a nice depth player, he isn't going to send a 30 goal scorer our way |
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rival22
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Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY Joined: 02.27.2007
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I guess Briere has a concussion. - kgrpitt
Damn... if there is a team who has been affected by concussions as much as the Pens this season, it's been Philly.
I guess Jagr left the game today too with a bad groin.
Good for them with the injuries piling up, and the standard Flyers' goaltending disaster, they keep winning games. |
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brianb0422
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 07.12.2010
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Damn... if there is a team who has been affected by concussions as much as the Pens this season, it's been Philly.
I guess Jagr left the game today too with a bad groin.
Good for them with the injuries piling up, and the standard Flyers' goaltending disaster, they keep winning games. - rival22
Maybe its a PA thing? All that damn Marcellus Shale drilling poisoning the water! |
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powerhouse
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Location: Columbia , MD Joined: 11.28.2006
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Interesting SI article about the lack of stars in the NHL. Somewhat concussion / Sid related.
http://sportsillustrated....sis/index.html?xid=cnnbin - brianb0422
Thanks, a good read. You can see the trap almost every night. It is a natural resonse to control the scoring. Problem is, it stiffles the life out of the game. I thinks 5 guys around a goalie should be an illegal defense, just like basketball. |
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Thanks, a good read. You can see the trap almost every night. It is a natural resonse to control the scoring. Problem is, it stiffles the life out of the game. I thinks 5 guys around a goalie should be an illegal defense, just like basketball. - powerhouse
Wouldn't be as much of an issue if they still called interference these days |
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walshy66
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Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com Joined: 03.21.2008
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Wouldn't be as much of an issue if they still called interference these days - Deadstar
That's the problem, call the damn penalty. When the 'hand check' foul was called in bball in the 90s the game was at its best because the players could move.
It took guards about 15 games to work out 'no hand on the ball carrier' it really freed up the game. The difference is the NBA has not allowed it to creep back into the game. Interference has crept back into hockey because the officials kept coping flack for games with so many penalties. Why not go the players for not adjusting?
Keep calling obstruction, and eventually the players will have to conceded defeat and stop doing it. If the league grew some balls on this and made the changes stick the game would be better off for it. |
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ikyan
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Location: Kingston, ON Joined: 01.19.2012
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Slewban just got called for one of his punches during the play, like that one he got away with last night... |
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madmike71
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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That's the problem, call the damn penalty. When the 'hand check' foul was called in bball in the 90s the game was at its best because the players could move.
It took guards about 15 games to work out 'no hand on the ball carrier' it really freed up the game. The difference is the NBA has not allowed it to creep back into the game. Interference has crept back into hockey because the officials kept coping flack for games with so many penalties. Why not go the players for not adjusting?
Keep calling obstruction, and eventually the players will have to conceded defeat and stop doing it. If the league grew some balls on this and made the changes stick the game would be better off for it. - walshy66
I'm starting to wonder if a little obstruction isn't a bad thing. With all of these concussions, maybe a little interference would slow the trend down. In the old days, a defensive partner used to slow down the forechecker and take a little heat off of the defensman. You didn't see these defensman getting blasted like they do now. Even with crackdown on hitting guys from behind, you still see those dangerous hits pretty frequently. It would appear the threat of missing a couple of games isn't enough to stop it.
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I'm starting to wonder if a little obstruction isn't a bad thing. With all of these concussions, maybe a little interference would slow the trend down. In the old days, a defensive partner used to slow down the forechecker and take a little heat off of the defensman. You didn't see these defensman getting blasted like they do now. Even with crackdown on hitting guys from behind, you still see those dangerous hits pretty frequently. It would appear the threat of missing a couple of games isn't enough to stop it. - madmike71
I'm not of the opinion that obstruction will keep the concussions in check. More are the result of stupidity/high hits than they are full speed collisions. Just take out the trapezoid, make icing calls perfectly clear (these late negated icings put dmen n awful positions), and outlaw head hits already |
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ikyan
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Location: Kingston, ON Joined: 01.19.2012
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Players are bigger, faster and stronger than ever. Larger players moving faster in the same size area are going to collide more, and more aggressively. Couple this with the fact that there is no obstruction left in the game on dump ins, and d-men are going to take it a lot on the forecheck. Unless the NHL increased rink size (not going to happen any time soon) or allowed some obstruction on forecheckers (unlikely), I don't see there being too big on a decrease in these injuries that are happening. Just my two cents.
EDT: Missed no touch icing... |
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madmike71
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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I guess I'm the only one who feels that Crosby visiting a spinal specialist is a good thing. The central nervous system is a funky thing and maybe they've determined his continued problems aren't being caused as much by a bruised brain, but possibly some pinching in his spinal cord.
Who knows, I'm not a doctor. I do have a friend that would get really nasty headaches after a car accident and he eventually had surgery on a disk in his neck and the problem magically disappeared.
Interestingly, does anybody remember the rumors of his concussion having a spinal component to it? It looks like there might have been some truth there.
I hope he finds a solution, but it appears more and more likely, he's done for the year. |
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rival22
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Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY Joined: 02.27.2007
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Players are bigger, faster and stronger than ever. Larger players moving faster in the same size area are going to collide more, and more aggressively. Couple this with the fact that there is no obstruction left in the game on dump ins, and d-men are going to take it a lot on the forecheck. Unless the NHL increased rink size (not going to happen any time soon) or allowed some obstruction on forecheckers (unlikely), I don't see there being too big on a decrease in these injuries that are happening. Just my two cents.
EDT: Missed no touch icing... - ikyan
I've heard the larger rink size as something that would help reduce concussions, but I don't see how. If anything it would give more room for faster collisions. The traffic areas are still going to be inside the face off dots and players will still carry the puck up the boards.
The frustrating thing about all of these concussions, is that when you look at several of them, no two are the same. You have dirty, high hits, you have innocent looking collisions, friendly fire, fights, etc. |
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