ikeane
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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He did recently not play for 6 games....his TOI is about 8-10. Low Cap hit..one more year @ 1.5 mil. Nice fit for 6-7 dman. - bogiedoc
I agree, I like Erskine's game and think if healthy he would be a great addition |
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Ogilthorpe2
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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He did recently not play for 6 games....his TOI is about 8-10. Low Cap hit..one more year @ 1.5 mil. Nice fit for 6-7 dman. - bogiedoc
We already have 4 of those 6-7 type D-men. What we need is a legit 4-5. |
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ikeane
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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Yea, but it doesn't matter with Kane as he is sort of the exception to the rule. Kane is so gifted that he is still very valuable to the team, even with this slump he is going through. - HawkFan27
I'm not advocating trading him, but for someone that gifted, it's painful to watch his lazy play lately. That passed shot against BUF was a prime example. |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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We already have 4 of those 6-7 type D-men. What we need is a legit 4-5. - Ogilthorpe2
Nice depth guy, real bruiser. OD is 41, Erskine is 31. Halpern would be the real jewel. |
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ikeane
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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Nice depth guy, real bruiser. OD is 41, Erskine is 31. Halpern would be the real jewel. - John Jaeckel
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golfbard
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Location: NY Joined: 06.22.2007
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Nice depth guy, real bruiser. OD is 41, Erskine is 31. Halpern would be the real jewel. - John Jaeckel
10 years younger and more physical and Halpern can do a little bit of everything. Face offs which would be huge. Could play wing on the third or center the fourth. Guy can do a lot. Kill penalties. Play defense. Basically everything that Bickell can't do. |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Nice depth guy, real bruiser. OD is 41, Erskine is 31. Halpern would be the real jewel. - John Jaeckel
I agree on Halpern. I could see Erskine being a good guy to rotate with O'Donnell in the sixth spot on defense. I really am hopeing Bowman would bring in something better on defense. |
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Moving any sort of significant asset for Erskine or Erskine and Halpern is nuts. You guys have assigned "toughness" as the key attribute to both of these guys, so what does it say that Washington, a perennial Cup contender with perennial questions about their toughness after perennial playoff flameouts, is willing to move them? If you can get them for a song, a Bickell and someone not in the Hawks future, great. But moving something significant for two castoffs is an awful idea. |
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hawks1921
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Location: IL Joined: 04.12.2010
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Not sure how Schultz fell out over there but I'd love his big body in a hawks sweater |
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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How does shipping out two roster players for prospects and/or Bickell improve them? - pri$ey
Wahington has about $5 million in cap room. Maybe this is a move to clear a little more cap space for a bigger move for Washington. They still have Semin, and maybe could have a deal in place to flip him for a couple of bigger pieces? |
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bogiedoc
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Location: VA Joined: 09.27.2011
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We already have 4 of those 6-7 type D-men. What we need is a legit 4-5. - Ogilthorpe2
I think he is more of a legit 5-6 guy and pushes OD to 7 with Lepisto and Scott completely out of the picture. They will keep Scott over Lepisto. So I would think Lepisto is on the trade bubble.
I can't see the Hawks going for another 2.5 -3 mil 4-5 d-men. The price is to rich!! |
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dan9189
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Location: chicago, IL Joined: 06.29.2009
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Olsen is one guy I don't see the Hawks trading. As of right now he's probably their only close to NHL ready defenseman in the pipeline. It's well noted that this team is very deep at forward when it comes to prospects. I see Pirri, Lalonde and Morin as prime guys in a trade since guys like Saad, Danault, McNeill and possibly Kevin Hayes will all be at RFD by as early as next year. |
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dan9189
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Location: chicago, IL Joined: 06.29.2009
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I think Lepisto will for sure be dealt. He actually is a legit NHL defenseman who just for whatever reason the coaching staff doesn't like/trust. |
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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Have not seen anything other than out 4-6 weeks; skating in a few weeks; and a projected return right before the trade deadline. Sorry... - hpk90
It's tough to get any injury info even when you are on the top of it...Thanks
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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Moving any sort of significant asset for Erskine or Erskine and Halpern is nuts. You guys have assigned "toughness" as the key attribute to both of these guys, so what does it say that Washington, a perennial Cup contender with perennial questions about their toughness after perennial playoff flameouts, is willing to move them? If you can get them for a song, a Bickell and someone not in the Hawks future, great. But moving something significant for two castoffs is an awful idea. - PhatJoeSki
Three out of four prospects don't make it.
Igor Radulov, Dmitri Nabokov, Mikhail Yakubov, Matt Keith, Adam Berti, Remi Royer, Jeremy Reich, Geoff Peters, Eric Lecompte, Adam Munro . . .
And guess what, Hawk prospects overall aren't that good compared to some teams, so even the better of them aren't necessarily surefire NHL stars or even players. |
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John Jaeckel
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Location: www.the-rink.com Joined: 11.19.2006
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I think Lepisto will for sure be dealt. He actually is a legit NHL defenseman who just for whatever reason the coaching staff doesn't like/trust. - dan9189
Hawks got him off the scrap heap as a free agent. He might bring back a conditional late round pick before the deadline, late, when a lot of others are off the market. |
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FredoXV
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Location: OH Joined: 06.23.2010
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Moving any sort of significant asset for Erskine or Erskine and Halpern is nuts. You guys have assigned "toughness" as the key attribute to both of these guys, so what does it say that Washington, a perennial Cup contender with perennial questions about their toughness after perennial playoff flameouts, is willing to move them? If you can get them for a song, a Bickell and someone not in the Hawks future, great. But moving something significant for two castoffs is an awful idea. - PhatJoeSki
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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Moving any sort of significant asset for Erskine or Erskine and Halpern is nuts. You guys have assigned "toughness" as the key attribute to both of these guys, so what does it say that Washington, a perennial Cup contender with perennial questions about their toughness after perennial playoff flameouts, is willing to move them? If you can get them for a song, a Bickell and someone not in the Hawks future, great. But moving something significant for two castoffs is an awful idea. - PhatJoeSki
Joe,
Halpern is the 2nd best faceoff man in the NHL and is a much better player than anyone here on the 4th line.
If the Hawks can get him for Bickell they would do it in a NY second....Even Frolik would be doable.
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EKB13
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Location: IL Joined: 07.18.2009
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Olsen is one guy I don't see the Hawks trading. As of right now he's probably their only close to NHL ready defenseman in the pipeline. It's well noted that this team is very deep at forward when it comes to prospects. I see Pirri, Lalonde and Morin as prime guys in a trade since guys like Saad, Danault, McNeill and possibly Kevin Hayes will all be at RFD by as early as next year. - dan9189
Olsen is probably the Hawks most ready blue line prospect in the minors. As much as I wouldn't want to see him go, if that's the piece that gets Bowman the guy that puts the Hawks over the top, then I would expect him to make the move. Olsen will more than likely be a steady stay at home defenseman someday in the NHL, but he's also replaceable and expendable. Olsen won't set the world on fire. |
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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I think Lepisto will for sure be dealt. He actually is a legit NHL defenseman who just for whatever reason the coaching staff doesn't like/trust. - dan9189
He will be traded only if the Hawks acquire at least one more dman otherwise Lepisto is an insurance policy which they have been paying the entire season. |
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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Olsen is probably the Hawks most ready blue line prospect in the minors. As much as I wouldn't want to see him go, if that's the piece that gets Bowman the guy that puts the Hawks over the top, then I would expect him to make the move. Olsen will more than likely be a steady stay at home defenseman someday in the NHL, but he's also replaceable and expendable. Olsen won't set the world on fire. - EKolb13
Olsen's not going for anyone mentioned... is my guess.
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FredoXV
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Location: OH Joined: 06.23.2010
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Three out of four prospects don't make it.
Igor Radulov, Dmitri Nabokov, Mikhail Yakubov, Matt Keith, Adam Berti, Remi Royer, Jeremy Reich, Geoff Peters, Eric Lecompte, Adam Munro . . .
And guess what, Hawk prospects overall aren't that good compared to some teams, so even the better of them aren't necessarily surefire NHL stars or even players. - John Jaeckel
Your point about many of us over-valuing are own guys is taken -
I think you are undervaluing them a bit too, here however. I don't see the potential upgrade of these two players to equal the potential of a Morin or a Saad, or the potential to move them for bigger fish elsewhere.
It's not just the potential of the player as a Hawk that should be considered, it's the potential return in other trades. |
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He will be traded only if the Hawks acquire at least one more dman otherwise Lepisto is an insurance policy which they have been paying the entire season. - Al
Which makes everyone question why Scott is still on the team... |
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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Your point about many of us over-valuing are own guys is taken -
I think you are undervaluing them a bit too, here however. I don't see the potential upgrade of these two players to equal the potential of a Morin or a Saad, or the potential to move them for bigger fish elsewhere.
It's not just the potential of the player as a Hawk that should be considered, it's the potential return in other trades. - FredoXV
Who mentioned Morin or Saad...Did I miss something? |
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jhawk159
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Location: Wheaton, IL Joined: 10.13.2009
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Three out of four prospects don't make it.
Igor Radulov, Dmitri Nabokov, Mikhail Yakubov, Matt Keith, Adam Berti, Remi Royer, Jeremy Reich, Geoff Peters, Eric Lecompte, Adam Munro . . .
And guess what, Hawk prospects overall aren't that good compared to some teams, so even the better of them aren't necessarily surefire NHL stars or even players. - John Jaeckel
John,
If the Hawks pick up Halpern and Erskine would the roster be set or do you think SB would need still need to make another move? I like both as depth guys but getting a d-man who they could pair with Hammer would be huge. |
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