Sure you can fault him on that..I do anyway.. there wasnt anybody on him when the puck came to him.. he miss played it and than flubbed the pass.. he tried going right back to whoever it was that passed it to him on the wall. He could have sent a hard pass across the blue line but the fact that he miss handled the pass originally screwed him. That was not a case of giving a guy the puck who was already under pressure. I also give Bailey credit.. he pressured the original puck passer who sent the puck to Timonen, then also applied pressure to Timonen (who had been open originally) and collected the flubbed pass and broke out.

The penalty he took that led to Streits goal was equally brutal. He had a rare bad game, but it was on him.
- jak521

I disagree completely. Timonen had a man right on him as soon as the puck got to him. And with Bailey high in the zone, and a man right on him, he attempted ot make the right play which was to get the puck back in deep, where the Flyers would have outnumberd the Isles 3 on 2. He had no chance or time to go point to point. And Bailey would have had an excellent chance to pick it off and get a break that way. Timonen is a veteran. He knows what to do with the puck there. He was put into a tough spot. And the Coach talked about it. Watch the replay, Bailey isn't the player who pressured Timonen.

And on the penalty he took that led to the Streit goal. He took the penalty on purpose. He had no support. If his defense partner hadn't left him, he wouldn't have had to take the penalty there. This is all basic fundamental stuff.

4. They seem to be playing a 2-2-1 for the power play. The one defenseman in the middle on the blue line, with the next two high on the boards. The passes between these two are too close to the PK'ers. It seem to work when they rolled it out be teams are getting wise. I'm surprised that their hasn't been more SH goals.
- leon neon

It's called an Umbrella formation. They made bad decisions with the puck. That's what it's all about.

I think you will see a much better effort.
They should be ticked off after last night.

19 month old to the game, you are a good (and brave) Dad!
- Marc D

Mom will be there too... Little one loves hockey and freaks out when she comes to see me play. I'm hoping she can hang in there for the whole game.

It's somewhat normal to have one or two forwards on a team struggling at any given time. Bill has documented that Giroux's history is he struggles at this juncture in the season. But you need other guys, veteran guys, to step up and carry the load for a while. Carter did this for Richards a few seasons ago. Then Richards took his turn carrying the team. I'm most disappointed in what I've seen, or more aptly, what I've not seen, from Briere so far. Voraceck, while mostly a complimentary player, has also tailed off quite a bit in the past while. Jagr is doing pretty much what I thought Jagr would do.
- rockychocbill

I agree but as usual there will always be crysis in Flyer land

I disagree completely. Timonen had a man right on him as soon as the puck got to him. And with Bailey high in the zone, and a man right on him, he attempted ot make the right play which was to get the puck back in deep, where the Flyers would have outnumberd the Isles 3 on 2. He had no chance or time to go point to point. And Bailey would have had an excellent chance to pick it off and get a break that way. Timonen is a veteran. He knows what to do with the puck there. He was put into a tough spot. And the Coach talked about it. Watch the replay, Bailey isn't the player who pressured Timonen.

And on the penalty he took that led to the Streit goal. He took the penalty on purpose. He had no support. If his defense partner hadn't left him, he wouldn't have had to take the penalty there. This is all basic fundamental stuff.
- MJL

There was only Bailey if I remember correctly.. Ill go re-watch it. He came from the top of the circle got in front of Timonen who was trying to go back to G..

On the penalty he had a man between the blueline and the center ice and flubbed the pass.. then took the penalty which I agree was on purpose. He looked like he was gonna use the side wall and send it out but flubbed it..

EDIT: So I remembered part of it incorrectly.. It was Martin(?) who put the pressure.. I thought it was Bailey who then also got the puck.. Either way.. Martin was not on top of Timonen when he got the pass.. he was on Giroux who passed it back to Timonen (thats when Martin pushed forward to Kimmo) who mishandled then flubbed a pass into Martins feet.. it was a solid defensive job, but still think that that was a Timonen error..

The thing is, Giroux and Jagr are forcing things. Giroux is passing up open shots to pass to a covered Jagr. He wasn't doing that before. He was taking the shot. They're not taking the open plays, which they were before, when they were having a lot of success.
- Jsaquella

He's making those stupid low percentage backhand passes just inside the blue line that are a ODD man break waiting to happen. too many times the team across the board would force plays along the board high instead of making the safe play and dumping it deep. Nabokov was kicking monster rebounds last night.......so frustrating.

Mom will be there too... Little one loves hockey and freaks out when she comes to see me play. I'm hoping she can hang in there for the whole game.
- flyguy12

say hey to Heineken girl for me!

(I doubt you guys remember me from Buzzgate #1)

He's making those stupid low percentage backhand passes just inside the blue line that are a off man break waiting to happen. too many times the team across the board would force plays along the board high instead of making the safe play and dumping it deep. Nabokov was kicking monster rebounds last night.......so frustrating.
- nastyflyergirl

as frustrating as "let's go fly guys!"?

Philadelphia's defensive zone coverages and breakouts were also lacking at key junctures of the game. Too many players cheated out of the defensive zone early and they were not alert to stretch passes by the Islanders, which allowed the likes of Tavares and Michael Grabner to hang out near the blueline for cherry-picking opportunities.

Until the third period, Philly was guilty once again of trying to make fancy plays when they would have been better served to keep things simple: Claude Giroux, Jaromir Jagr and Danny Briere were all among the prime culprits.

This is what's wrong with this team right now.

Giroux = 2g in last 15 games
Jagr = 4g in last 19 games
Voracheck = 3g in last 23 games
Briere = 6g in his last 23 games (one hatty in there)

Three of these four guys are/should be considered leaders on the team. The team will generally go the way it's leaders do. The fact we're getting some strong play from our young guns is a bonus.

- rockychocbill

it was ridiculous last night. the Islanders were behind the Flyers defense all night. what were there, about 4 breakaways? several near breakaways not for errand passes and a few occassions the Flyers D did make a nice play breaking up attempts.

say hey to Heineken girl for me!

(I doubt you guys remember me from Buzzgate #1)
- Marc D

never beened to a Buzzgate

Like I said Bryz can come out of this weekend looking like a champ. I hope everyone that stated that Bob was hung out to dry better say the same stuff when Bryz is playing instead of shredding him like cheddar cheese
- bigmookalookie

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 1/20/12
- bmeltzer

I thought Andrej Meszaros was the team's best defenseman and Erik Gustafsson played his second solid game in a row. The rest was pretty much a mess.

when you see timonen having a rough outing you know it's not going to turn out well

and giroux at -3? yikes

There was only Bailey if I remember correctly.. Ill go re-watch it. He came from the top of the circle got in front of Timonen who was trying to go back to G..

On the penalty he had a man between the blueline and the center ice and flubbed the pass.. then took the penalty which I agree was on purpose. He looked like he was gonna use the side wall and send it out but flubbed it..
- jak521

It wasn't Bailey. If anyone is to blame it's Giroux. Made a bad decision with the puck. Timonen attempted the right play given the situation. unfortunately, it hit a shin pad and bounced out to Center ice.

The whole point of playing as a team, and playing as 5 man unit on the ice, is to support each other. Pucks roll, they go on edge, they roll off of sticks. Basic fundamentals. That doesn't happen if Timonen has support and isn't forced to grab the player. You don't leave a defenseman all alone like that as the other players race up ice. This team is far too aggressive on the offensive side of the puck.

i think andy, couts and simmonds showed some good chemistry. i'd keep them together for another game
- Crimsoninja

YES THIS

briere hasn't done diddly squat i'd not be adverse to moving him to a wing to switch up the lines.

as frustrating as "let's go fly guys!"?


- hammarby31

meant odd man breaks, not off. Ummm that female dog needed a punch in the face by the end of the game. I'm sure if they were winning she wouldn't have annoyed me as much. I was so pissed when I got home I put a movie on instead of center ice.

as frustrating as "let's go fly guys!"?


- hammarby31

Please tell me they don't really chant that.

I thought it was bad enough that the noobs couldn't even pronounce the historic "Let's Go Flyers" chant properly.

say hey to Heineken girl for me!

(I doubt you guys remember me from Buzzgate #1)
- Marc D

I do. She keeps asking if there's gonna be another Buzzgate.

Etta James has passed away at the age of 73

Well, the Flyers better right the ship tomorrow afternoon. Taking my 19 month old little girl to her first game. 2nd row in the corner to Brodeur's left. She has her Giroux Jsy-T ready to go!
- flyguy12

That's awesome! Here's hoping for a good game to get the record off to a great start.

YES THIS

briere hasn't done diddly squat i'd not be adverse to moving him to a wing to switch up the lines.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Said the same thing earlier. As a center you have to really dictate the play and move your feet.. he hasnt done either.

EDIT: So I remembered part of it incorrectly.. It was Martin(?) who put the pressure.. I thought it was Bailey who then also got the puck.. Either way.. Martin was not on top of Timonen when he got the pass.. he was on Giroux who passed it back to Timonen (thats when Martin pushed forward to Kimmo) who mishandled then flubbed a pass into Martins feet.. it was a solid defensive job, but still think that that was a Timonen error..
- jak521

Timonen didn't flub the pass. It hit a shin pad and bounced all the way out to center ice. Did you see how far the puck went out of the zone? He was absolutely right on top of Timonen. Timonen has a split second to make a play. The checker coming at Giroux was in full flight and continued right on to Timonen. Who had only one play to make, and he attempted the right one. With that pressure up high, and Bailey also up high, Giroux has to send the puck the other way.

Etta James has passed away at the age of 73
- jak521

At Last

Sorry couldn't resist.

It wasn't Bailey. If anyone is to blame it's Giroux. Made a bad decision with the puck. Timonen attempted the right play given the situation. unfortunately, it hit a shin pad and bounced out to Center ice.

The whole point of playing as a team, and playing as 5 man unit on the ice, is to support each other. Pucks roll, they go on edge, they roll off of sticks. Basic fundamentals. That doesn't happen if Timonen has support and isn't forced to grab the player. You don't leave a defenseman all alone like that as the other players race up ice. This team is far too aggressive on the offensive side of the puck.
- MJL

Check my edit..

I agree with you that guys were playing as individuals and really not helping each other out, but on that play Timonen was not under pressure before the pass.. he was standing at the point.. both he and Giroux could have and should have done a better job.

At Last

Sorry couldn't resist.
- PLindbergh31

My lonely days are over....

At Last

Sorry couldn't resist.
- PLindbergh31

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edit: oops link changed

anyway bruins poster pointed out the headline read: 'At Last' Singer Etta James dies at 73