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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:07 AM ET
They threw several combinations at the Isles top line last night, none of which worked.

But generally, I agree with you. The Flyers don't have a center they can rely on to routinely keep other team's top players in check.

Paging Mike Richards.

- bradleyc4



I would start using Couturier in that role. Not for an entire game, but mixed in during a game. But I agree they don't have a player that you can put out there for 18-20 minutes a game to check another team's top line. And there's also the issue of teams that have more then one quality line. So the Giroux line is simply going to have to fix it's checking game.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:11 AM ET
The League has changed. It takes two to have a fight. A guy like Shelley risks putting the team shorthanded if he comes out and intigates a fight. Do you think Shelley isn't fighting by his choice? That he all of a sudden doesn't want to fight?
- MJL

It is frustrating though.. and i know its not his fault.. the 2 fights he has been in this year came in losses where we gave up 6 goals. In fact.. when Jody Shelley is in the line up (16 games) the Flyers record is 7-8-1

Conversely.. when Rinaldo is in the line up they are 22-9-4
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:13 AM ET
Still loving what I see from Brayden Schenn.

He's made a bunch of rookie mistakes, but he's come so close on so many scoring opportunities. He's going to be a beauty.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:13 AM ET
It's not so much the mental toughness, but his body not being used to the grind of an 82-game NHL schedule. They only play maybe 35 games/season in NCAA? Against much lesser competition.
- bradleyc4

I understand.. but it seems that NCAA guys come out of college more prepared for that type of season for whatever reason.. look at all the different players who have done it.. I dont know what it is, but to me it just seems that way. Maybe they are more physically mature as well.. that would certainly help.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:13 AM ET
It is frustrating though.. and i know its not his fault.. the 2 fights he has been in this year came in losses where we gave up 6 goals. In fact.. when Jody Shelley is in the line up (16 games) the Flyers record is 7-8-1

Conversely.. when Rinaldo is in the line up they are 22-9-4

- jak521



Does that mean that Shelley is the reason for the team's record in those games? What's frustrating about it? Shelley doesn't hurt the team when he's in the lineup, and he does his job. I prefer Rinaldo, but I have no problems with Shelley in the lineup. Far too much is made of it.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:14 AM ET
It is frustrating though.. and i know its not his fault.. the 2 fights he has been in this year came in losses where we gave up 6 goals. In fact.. when Jody Shelley is in the line up (16 games) the Flyers record is 7-8-1

Conversely.. when Rinaldo is in the line up they are 22-9-4

- jak521


What's the Flyers record when Jagr drives his black Range Rover to the rink, as opposed to his silver BMW?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:14 AM ET
Still loving what I see from Brayden Schenn.

He's made a bunch of rookie mistakes, but he's come so close on so many scoring opportunities. He's going to be a beauty.

- bradleyc4



I like his physical edge and his willingness to mix it up. I think he's going to be a very good player.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:15 AM ET
Still loving what I see from Brayden Schenn.

He's made a bunch of rookie mistakes, but he's come so close on so many scoring opportunities. He's going to be a beauty.

- bradleyc4

and feisty

he's mixed it up and/or aggressively defended himself in at least 3 games i can recall
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:16 AM ET
and feisty

he's mixed it up and/or aggressively defended himself in at least 3 games i can recall

- Crimsoninja


The new Mike Richards
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 20 @ 9:16 AM ET
It is frustrating though.. and i know its not his fault.. the 2 fights he has been in this year came in losses where we gave up 6 goals. In fact.. when Jody Shelley is in the line up (16 games) the Flyers record is 7-8-1

Conversely.. when Rinaldo is in the line up they are 22-9-4

- jak521


Shelley is irrelevant. As long as the Flyers carry an enforcer he will be on the team. Theres nothing anyone can do about it. He doesnt even get enough ice time to warrant a discussion.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:19 AM ET
What's the Flyers record when Jagr drives his black Range Rover to the rink, as opposed to his silver BMW?
- bradleyc4


what's the Flyers record when they can't score a PP goal?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 20 @ 9:21 AM ET
The new Mike Richards
- bradleyc4

I'll wait until I see the party crashing photos to make that statement.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:24 AM ET
Why would the Flyers trade Voracek to LA for a pick? Wouldn't it be wiser to trade him to Carolina for a pick, or Toronto for Schenn? Why trade Voracek at all? He is playing a good game, and when you trade him you dont open up that much cap space.... Better to just waive Shelly.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:25 AM ET
I'll wait until I see the party crashing photos to make that statement.
- feelingkettle




RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:29 AM ET
We really need to shake up these lines. The opposition is zeroing in on the G line way too much, and its working. They know how to defend them... Take away the drop passes and cross-ice passes and make the puck carrier beat you one-on-one...

Read-Giroux-Briere
Voracek-Schenn-Jagr
Hartnell-Couturier-Simmonds
Zulnerczyk-Talbot-Rinaldo
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 20 @ 9:30 AM ET
Still loving what I see from Brayden Schenn.

He's made a bunch of rookie mistakes, but he's come so close on so many scoring opportunities. He's going to be a beauty.

- bradleyc4


He is. The talent is evident, he's going to be a very good piece to the puzzle, unless Homer does something dumb.
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:30 AM ET
coach
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:32 AM ET
He is. The talent is evident, he's going to be a very good piece to the puzzle, unless Homer does something dumb.
- Jsaquella


Great avatar BTW.. Gotta love Trapper! Though BJ was good as well, but he was no Trapper.
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
pucker up
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
coach
- Duane B

agreed
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
agreed
- Crimsoninja

i voted for u
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
Still loving what I see from Brayden Schenn.

He's made a bunch of rookie mistakes, but he's come so close on so many scoring opportunities. He's going to be a beauty.

- bradleyc4

I see you've graduated from the Butsy school of Canadian hockey speak.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:35 AM ET
I'll wait until I see the party crashing photos to make that statement.
- feelingkettle

A new improved Mike Richards?
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:35 AM ET
I see you've graduated from the Butsy school of Canadian hockey speak.
- bodiva88

mornin Bo
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:35 AM ET


Voracek seems to lack finish.

I would like to see Jake to advantage of the opportunities he has been given.

Danny needed to bury that wide open shot in the first!

Bob was excellent.

The lack of hustle in the first 2 periods reminded me of the previous years play.

Cooter and Read are showing some good chemistry.

The Flyers have placed a APB for Danny Briere, if anyone has seen Danny please call the Flyers and notify them immediately.

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