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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:20 PM ET
Cant hurt to have Jagr around another year. Like I said, I dont think any of our wingers are ready to be number 1's, and can only get better with another year watching and learning from Jagr. And he will probally come at a slight discount, maybe 2-2.5 million range.

Then after next season we will have Timonen, Briere, and Jagr's cap hit off the books, and hopefully by then the youth will be ready to step up. But if I'm the Flyers I dont give Couturier, Schenn, or Voracek a contract until they earn it. Unlike JVR's contract.

- RooNosHockey



So what do you do walk away from Couturier, Schenn, or Voracek if they don't "earn it"?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
here is the full tweet of that rumor but the guy only has 78 followers probably fake:


WireHockey WireHockey
#flyers #rumors The flyers are in talks with Nashville. They have offered JVR, Brayden #Schenn and a 2nd for Weber or Suter. Sign and trade!

- Philly1980

Just saw the rumor and the answer is no. You make this trade and suddenly we're weak up front.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
oh come one. lighten up. bro hug?
- GuyLaDouche

You seem to be lonely today. Get a puppy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
That's terrifying, actually.
- bradleyc4



What he's really doing is deflecting and protecting the player.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
That's terrifying, actually.
- bradleyc4

I just wet myself reading it.

edit: more to come
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
i take hockeybuzz very seriously. i structure my day to day life around it
- GuyLaDouche

Crims?
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:23 PM ET
Just saw the rumor and the answer is no. You make this trade and suddenly we're weak up front.
- Schenn2shine


For Weber i'd do it...

Not for Suter though
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
JoshuaCooper JoshuaCooper
#preds claim Brandon Yip of waivers
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply



Dominos....
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
You seem to be lonely today. Get a puppy.
- bodiva88

dogs require maintenance and money. i already have kids. i should get a cat. perhaps several.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
Crims?
- bodiva88

please don't insult my hockeybuzz icon.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
In a world with no cap space..

I'd love to drop JVR for Ryan...

Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
For Weber i'd do it...

Not for Suter though

- archion113

Not even for Weber. I'm doubting he gets moved during the regular season anyway. Suter could get moved at the deadline if Nashville gets off season help but moving Suter is another tricky move seeing how important he is to the Preds. Both might have to wait until the off season.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
JoshuaCooper JoshuaCooper
#preds claim Brandon Yip of waivers
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply



Dominos....

- funmaster18


Yip is capable of being a #1 defenseman
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
dogs require maintenance and money. i already have kids. i should get a cat. perhaps several.
- GuyLaDouche

Are you into being looked at smugly by an animal who doesn't give a poop about you until it's bored or time to eat? Because that's what cats do.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
Yip is capable of being a #1 defenseman
- archion113


Clearly they claimed him to include him in a package deal that will send both Suter and Weber to the Flyers.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:26 PM ET
So what do you do walk away from Couturier, Schenn, or Voracek if they don't "earn it"?
- MJL


No, give them a short term contract for the value of play they are making. I'm just saying dont go giving these guys 6 year contracts next year based on what you think they may become, or on 1 year's performance. Dont make the same mistake you did with Richards and Carter, and possible JVR, though its not long term, I dont think he has earned 4 mill a year yet.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:27 PM ET
Are you into being looked at smugly by an animal who doesn't give a poop about you until it's bored or time to eat? Because that's what cats do.
- feelingkettle

yeah but they don't require a lot of attention and Im emotionally distant. seems like a good fit.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:27 PM ET
JoshuaCooper JoshuaCooper
#preds claim Brandon Yip of waivers
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply



Dominos....

- funmaster18


Yip is capable of being a #1 defenseman
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:27 PM ET
So what do you do walk away from Couturier, Schenn, or Voracek if they don't "earn it"?
- MJL

Note that he mentioned JVR's contract. He means, I'm sure, you don't move onto a long-term deal before a guy is getting close to UFA status unless he's shown you he's earned it. I'm guessing he feels the long-term deal on JVR was premature and going for a shorter-term, or even 1-year deal when you'll still control the rights at the end would have been wiser, in his opinion.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Crims?
- bodiva88

lol dont you have some planning to do for "the big forum day" on the boston threads sunday?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Yip is capable of being a #1 defenseman
- archion113

Are you serious?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
please don't insult my hockeybuzz icon.
- GuyLaDouche

It was the day-to-day life thing. crimsian.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Are you serious?
- Schenn2shine


Well i mean.. he's an NHL player... he's been in the league for a while.. he's got the talent to be there...
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Just saw the rumor and the answer is no. You make this trade and suddenly we're weak up front.
- Schenn2shine


You cant have it both ways.

The Flyers as it stands, are one of the top offensive teams in the league. They can lose a few goals up front.

A guy like Weber is someone who can take over games, and win the Conn Smythe. You overpay for guys like that. He is in his prime.

Either way I think Nashville would laugh at that offer. Not nearly enough. I understand that losing some depth would be an issue, but you have to give to get. Weber is a top 3 d-man in the league.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
yeah but they don't require a lot of attention and Im emotionally distant. seems like a good fit.
- GuyLaDouche

Once they infect you with their brain parasite, you will be even more controlled by them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis
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