Oh, I do not doubt that, one bit. But you know in MTL your a God, just ask you. The blog is kind of intriguing, no? EE is in the room, something is going on in there IMO.
- pete26

When they were winning the last 2 years all we heard was that it was a great room. Losing (frank)s up most rooms.

SO then after we get this C then we need to get an offensive D.
I'm all for getting Getzlaf for example, but I'd rather trade a package of other players.
We need the big centre but we also need some good offensive D and who knows if Markov will be back.
- braidan

Ok i can appreciate that, however i doubt that the habs get any center worth a value without PK being a part of the deal, i honestly dont see it happening. The have offensive D's in the system, big point getting number one centers, not even, not in 20 years. For that, usually you need a low draft pick. This year we could get one, if, if timmons isnt the one doing the drafting. His love for undersized NCAA forwards has got to go. Markov is a wash. Likely never plays again, and even if he does, he surely wont ever be the same calibre of player he once was.

The other day you were talking about what we know and don't know in regards to the past and the future. I didnt agree with it, but I respect it. When it comes to what's happening in the locker room I really don't think we have a clue, regardless of what's being said. I don't know the kid, but he speaks well for someone his age and who's a pro hockey player, I think there's a big difference between him being disliked, which might be the case, and him being a problem, which I doubt. I really believe a lot of this is fueled by his age and colour. There's been lots of really good young players who've needed to mature AND be given a chance. I think blaming PK is convienent. Just like blaming Price was a few years ago.
- habby

Habby I do not disagree with you at all. But if EE makes a blog about it, something is going on, you and I are not that stupid. If his mouth and attitude are trying to make up for his skin color, I'm at a loss for words

AgrEEd.
And if the BPA is a winger then draft him and package Pleks, next year's 1st ++ for Getzlaf
Gionta-Getzlaf-top draft pick
Cole-DD-Patch
AK-eller-Moen

I could live with that and if you draft a big C you can package Pleks or DD for a big winger.
I only say Pleks because I think he can get you value back, not that I want him gone.
- braidan

With the way DD and Eller are playing, Plek could become expendable.

I mean, look at the (frank)ing wingers he's given...

He's not put in a position to succeed this season.

AgrEEd.
And if the BPA is a winger then draft him and package Pleks, next year's 1st ++ for Getzlaf
Gionta-Getzlaf-top draft pick
Cole-DD-Patch
AK-eller-Moen

I could live with that and if you draft a big C you can package Pleks or DD for a big winger.
I only say Pleks because I think he can get you value back, not that I want him gone.
- braidan

and you have to hope that Eller can become the two way guy Pleks is.

I'd like to hold onto them, throw in 2013 1st instead
- braidan

Deal

I'm not entirely sold that PK will be an offensive powerhouse. I get that he's 22 and will get better but I'm not sold that he's a Norris candidate.
- Pie

Im not sold on either as well.

and you have to hope that Eller can become the two way guy Pleks is.
- Pie

Plek came into his own at age 25. Even then, he wasn't the two way guy he is now.

I think Eller can achieve that.

Plek has value. It's the only reason he should be traded.

I'm not entirely sold that PK will be an offensive powerhouse. I get that he's 22 and will get better but I'm not sold that he's a Norris candidate.
- Pie

I really believe he can win multiple Norris trophys down the road. I can't remember the last prospect I thought of as highly as i think of PK.

Ok i can appreciate that, however i doubt that the habs get any center worth a value without PK being a part of the deal, i honestly dont see it happening. The have offensive D's in the system, big point getting number one centers, not even, not in 20 years. For that, usually you need a low draft pick. This year we could get one, if, if timmons isnt the one doing the drafting. His love for undersized NCAA forwards has got to go. Markov is a wash. Likely never plays again, and even if he does, he surely wont ever be the same calibre of player he once was.
- shinebox

You don't think Pleks +1st+prospect(s) could get it done?
If not I'd rather wait for UFA, once Gomez is in Ham then we have money to bid up.

Plek came into his own at age 25. Even then, he wasn't the two way guy he is now.

I think Eller can achieve that.

Plek has value. It's the only reason he should be traded.
- Dgrdnr

In the current market / cap, his contract is pretty good value too... of course, who knows what happens with the next CBA.

I would rather not trade Pleks, but slot him into the #2 center spot... but that is just me.

You don't think Pleks +1st+prospect(s) could get it done?
If not I'd rather wait for UFA, once Gomez is in Ham then we have money to bid up.
- braidan

I don't think there are any real UFAs that will come to MTL at this point, given the chaos of the team and the current level of play (+ taxes).

Who knows maybe the next CBA squeezes a few players out to UFA or contracts need to be traded.

I just do not see anyone significant signing here in the next 2-3 years.

Plek came into his own at age 25. Even then, he wasn't the two way guy he is now.

I think Eller can achieve that.

Plek has value. It's the only reason he should be traded.
- Dgrdnr

I think Eller has size to his advantage and could be better offensively then Pleks, seeing Pleks lose so many battles along the boards and watching DD winning them against the same players doesnt exactly speak volumes about Pleks compete level.

In the current market / cap, his contract is pretty good value too... of course, who knows what happens with the next CBA.

I would rather not trade Pleks, but slot him into the #2 center spot... but that is just me.
- JDJ

IF we get/draft a big C with skill, 1 of them has to go

PLeks
DD
Eller

I'd rather keep Pleks but DD won't get you as much as Plecks could.

In the current market / cap, his contract is pretty good value too... of course, who knows what happens with the next CBA.

I would rather not trade Pleks, but slot him into the #2 center spot... but that is just me.
- JDJ

If Eller is set to become that 2nd line center in the future (Leblanc or Bournival centering the 3rd line), then Plek will have to go at some point...

If Eller is set to become that 2nd line center in the future (Leblanc or Bournival centering the 3rd line), then Plek will have to go at some point...
- Dgrdnr

I do not disagree.

I just do not think it is now or next year.

Unless you want to gut the team and pill a Pens / Oilers draft strategy.

You don't think Pleks +1st+prospect(s) could get it done?
If not I'd rather wait for UFA, once Gomez is in Ham then we have money to bid up.
- braidan

Only if those prospects are Bealieu (sp?) or Tinordi, still gonna be a hell of a price to pay. Id rather that PG, Gainey, and Timmons were all gone, and competent people were drafting/trading instead.

I don't think there are any real UFAs that will come to MTL at this point, given the chaos of the team and the current level of play (+ taxes).

Who knows maybe the next CBA squeezes a few players out to UFA or contracts need to be traded.

I just do not see anyone significant signing here in the next 2-3 years.
- JDJ

That's why we need to draft properly.

The next few years are gonna be long ones for hab fans, especially if the GMs are impatient and keep patching the leaking roof.

Only if those prospects are Bealieu (sp?) or Tinordi, still gonna be a hell of a price to pay. Id rather that PG, Gainey, and Timmons were all gone, and competent people were drafting/trading instead.
- shinebox

I'm with you on that.

Habby I do not disagree with you at all. But if EE makes a blog about it, something is going on, you and I are not that stupid. If his mouth and attitude are trying to make up for his skin color, I'm at a loss for words
- pete26

I just read it again and I don't interpret it the same way as I understand you too.

PK needs to mature, but he also needs to be given a chance. See what EE says about Price.

IF we get/draft a big C with skill, 1 of them has to go

PLeks
DD
Eller

I'd rather keep Pleks but DD won't get you as much as Plecks could.
- braidan

Like I said the other day, impressed by DD's play in the offensive zone, but his lack of back check and poor defensive zone coverage, force the team to keep him in the top 6 really.

I do not see DD as a long-term solution, unless something drastic changes about his game.

Plek came into his own at age 25. Even then, he wasn't the two way guy he is now.

I think Eller can achieve that.

Plek has value. It's the only reason he should be traded.
- Dgrdnr

One would hope. Pleks had a good AHL base of 2 great years to build from and was further insulated by pretty defensively aware teams. Ellers shown flashes but like Subban is young and has a ways to go.

I do not disagree.

I just do not think it is now or next year.

Unless you want to gut the team and pill a Pens / Oilers draft strategy.
- JDJ

Ill take this strategy over mediocrity for the next decade any day.

You don't think Pleks +1st+prospect(s) could get it done?
If not I'd rather wait for UFA, once Gomez is in Ham then we have money to bid up.
- braidan

I will kiss your ass on the Post Office corner at high noon....and give you an hour to draw a crowd, if that ever happens...

That's why we need to draft properly.

The next few years are gonna be long ones for hab fans, especially if the GMs are impatient and keep patching the leaking roof.
- Dgrdnr

As poopty as that might be, I am kinda excited to see what they will do.

My biggest concern is the guy who they put in place to pull it all off...