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pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
I think he just needs to be there helping guys out, not creating problems for them to battle for him, and for him to go out of his way to step up for a teammate.

He needs to do more of that, and continue to stay true to his game and his persona.

He will do that, and he will gain more respect from his teammates.

And he was also always have some that don't like him.

there's no in between. They either love him or hate him. that's what you get with a character and flamboyant playing style like Pk has

- EricEngels


So we agrEE he needs to lay low for a few games. But if he is a cancer, he needs to be shipped out for a upgrade, and only a upgrade, IMO.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jan 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
Just say Tony is an idiot, we all know it already.
- mr.peanut


Conversation starter, that's all
HABSFAN78
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.12.2009

Jan 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
Just say Tony is an idiot, we all know it already.
- mr.peanut

Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
agreed, no matter how much the haters will lie to themselves, some small part in the back of their mind will always see color first.
- HuileHab


Pretty sad when you think about it... isn't it?
God_then_kovy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
agreed, no matter how much the haters will lie to themselves, some small part in the back of their mind will always see color first.
- HuileHab

Funny how the road from white to black is so large yet we've parked ourselves between dark and light brown and made them poles.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jan 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
agreed, no matter how much the haters will lie to themselves, some small part in the back of their mind will always see color first.
- HuileHab




It's sad that it comes down to that. Thank goodness it doesn't happen everywhere else....say this site.
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jan 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
I would trade Subban for Getzlaf in a heartbeat, but the Ducks would be asking for more...
- HABSFAN78


no they wouldn't, they'd take that deal and get off the phone laughing.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Eric Engels: Earning Respect from your Teammates Depends on Sacrifice
- EricEngels

Do you believe P.K. Subban currently has the respect and admiration of his teammates?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
It's sad that it comes down to that. Thank goodness it doesn't happen everywhere else....say this site.
- weirdoh

_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Renaud P Lavoie @renhockey 4 min Répondre Retweeter Favori · Ouvrir
Tout indique que #canadiens Chris Campoli et Petteri Nokelainen n'affronteront pas les #capitals ce soir.


On en parle ce soir au 5@7!!!!!!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
Do you believe P.K. Subban currently has the respect and admiration of his teammates?
- Cape Breton Bruins


READ THE BLOG U IDJIT!
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
It's sad that it comes down to that. Thank goodness it doesn't happen everywhere else....say this site.
- weirdoh

#realtalk
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
Do you believe P.K. Subban currently has the respect and admiration of his teammates?
- Cape Breton Bruins

Respect, no. Admiration, probably, because he has the biggest richard in the team.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
Renaud P Lavoie @renhockey 4 min Répondre Retweeter Favori · Ouvrir
Tout indique que #canadiens Chris Campoli et Petteri Nokelainen n'affronteront pas les #capitals ce soir.


On en parle ce soir au 5@7, hockey360, l'antichambre, le 4@6, Camping Chasse et Pêche!!!!!!

- _nay_


Réparé
Habs Talk
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jan 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
I agree, it's not that PK is better than any of those guys, but the guy has so much upside it's incredible. He skates, he handles the puck, he has great vision and first pass, he's physical, he can handle big minutes and can be given the hard defensive missions. He just need to figure out how to make his tools complementary of one another game in and game out.
- Traceur


forgot a couple of things:

he's younger, has a higher ceiling, and his struggles will have him stay at a reasonable cap hit for a couple seasons, or one at least, before he blows up.

younger, cheaper, and he's a 28-minute/night dman.

he'll be among best in the game when he hits 25
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
Réparé
- Pecafan Fan

Marci.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
READ THE BLOG U IDJIT!
- Pecafan Fan

Nordic Engles or no deal.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
Sophomore slump + insane media + bad year in general + hot dog personality

Kid can't win.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
forgot a couple of things:

he's younger, has a higher ceiling, and his struggles will have him stay at a reasonable cap hit for a couple seasons, or one at least, before he blows up.

younger, cheaper, and he's a 28-minute/night dman.

he'll be among best in the game when he hits 25

- EricEngels

He hits the ceiling when he loads up for a slap shot.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
It's sad that it comes down to that. Thank goodness it doesn't happen everywhere else....say this site.
- weirdoh


*doesn't say what's on his mind*
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jan 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
It's sad that it comes down to that. Thank goodness it doesn't happen everywhere else....say this site.
- weirdoh


boo hoo Mr. Red
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
sometimes people don't quite understand how or why things like that happen.

1) We know the dynamics at play here between Subban, his teammates and the coaching staff and management.

2) Sometimes, discussions are had to stimulate interest and stimulate discussion about other players.

3) Sometimes, GMs have to dangle pieces to find out if they can get the piece that truly makes their team elite or closer to being so.

4) I love Ryan Getzlaf and Zach Parise, and there's no denying Kovalchuk is a premiere talent.

But if you trade Subban for any one of them straight up, you lose that deal. That may sound crazy to some of you, but it's true.

Kick the tires and see what you can do, but beyond that, there's more bodies moving out of Montreal this season and he's a conversation-starter.

- EricEngels

habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jan 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
Renaud P Lavoie @renhockey 4 min Répondre Retweeter Favori · Ouvrir
Tout indique que #canadiens Chris Campoli et Petteri Nokelainen n'affronteront pas les #capitals ce soir.


On en parle ce soir au 5@7!!!!!!

- _nay_

There's really no reason for Campoli to ever be in the lineup.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
no they wouldn't, they'd take that deal and get off the phone laughing.
- EricEngels


So, in your mind EE, who could we get for him straight up?
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