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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:12 PM ET
I saw Shelley throwing the body a few times though.
- Schenn2shine


Im sure he did. I think people wanted him to be alittle more aggressive and get into someones face to try and die down what was happening on the ice. Clutterbuck plays a physical game, thats not going to change, but you still have to protect your teammates. You dont want another team coming into your building and pushing you around.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:12 PM ET
I dont think Shelley has to fight or go after Clutterbuck if he isnt on the ice. But you better believe he should make his presence known on the ice with physical play and mixing it up, whether that turns into yapping or fighting would be determined by the opponent.
- stveshdy


Shelley di throw a couple of good hits.

Also, it seemed towards the end that one or both coaches were trying to keep them apart. Two or three times in the third, Shelley's shift is starting just as Clutterbuck's ended...and a couple of those shifts for Clutterbuck were really short
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:13 PM ET
Again, no substance here. Nothing showing how I'm wrong. You don't even have to be a Hockey fan or have ever watched a Hockey game in your life to know that if a player has played in the NHL for a decade, and is currently still on an NHL team, then he is a legit NHL player
- MJL


I posted his career stats.

Enough said.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:13 PM ET
Yep. Just one as of right now. Leighton is starting. Couple of interesting kids playing too...Calvin de Haan, Simon Despres, Thomas Hickey, Nazem Kadri and Joe Colborne are scheduled to play, among others.

My daughter's been bugging me to go to a game, and I haven't been able to drop the cash on Flyers tickets for her, plus the road trips have made it hard to find a non school night where I am not working.

- Jsaquella


Well thats awesome that you got tickets. Hopefully you and your daughter have a good time. I cant wait till my daughter is old enough to go.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:15 PM ET
I posted his career stats.

Enough said.

- archion113


Like I said, there is more to Hockey then goals and assists. And by posting his career stats, you prove that he is a legitimate NHL player. And looking at goals and assists to judge Jody Shelley, makes little sense.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 8:16 PM ET
Like I said, there is more to Hockey then goals and assists. And by posting his career stats, you prove that he is a legitimate NHL player. And looking at goals and assists to judge Jody Shelley, makes little sense.
- MJL

I think what he is trying to say is the guy's role is an enforcer. If he's not going to be that then his days in the league are numbered.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:17 PM ET
Well thats awesome that you got tickets. Hopefully you and your daughter have a good time. I cant wait till my daughter is old enough to go.
- stveshdy


Thanks, she's really pumped. I got freebies for the pre-season and took my 7 year old to the game against the Rags where Avery and Simmond went after each other. Ever since the little one has been chirping about going.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:18 PM ET
I think what he is trying to say is the guy's role is an enforcer. If he's not going to be that then his days in the league are numbered.
- JoeRussomanno


Every enforcer in the League days are numbered. Plus the fact that he's what 36? He's still a legitimate NHL player, and has had a good career, and made a good living, for a guy who supposedly can't play.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:18 PM ET
Taylor Hall just tweeted that he will not be out all season. Didn't give specific date, but said ASAP
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:19 PM ET
Like I said, there is more to Hockey then goals and assists. And by posting his career stats, you prove that he is a legitimate NHL player. And looking at goals and assists to judge Jody Shelley, makes little sense.
- MJL


So by you saying "he's an NHL'er", thats enough factual evidence for me to accept that he's a legit player?

I don't think so man... this is ridiculous even for you...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
So by you saying "he's an NHL'er", thats enough factual evidence for me to accept that he's a legit player?

I don't think so man... this is ridiculous even for you...

- archion113


The factual evidence I gave is that he has played in the NHL for a decade, and is still currently on an NHL roster. And he played in an NHL game just last night. And I'll add to it that he has played over 600 NHL games. And this is a repeat of what I said previously. I just didn't throw out a blanket statement .
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
Just answer the (frank)ing question
- JoeRussomanno


"c'mon, claire. it's just ONE question. talk to us!"
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
Every enforcer in the League days are numbered. Plus the fact that he's what 36? He's still a legitimate NHL player, and has had a good career, and made a good living, for a guy who supposedly can't play.
- MJL


Look at all those facts!!!

Legit NHL player? You've got to be kidding me. He's a joke to everyone. Players ignore him now. Flashback to 24/7 and Mike Rupp

Good career? You can't be serious.. he's a - player for his career... in 611 games he has 18 goals. Good career? No. Not thats not a good career.

Made a good living? Why yes, yes he did.

Supposedly can't play? You're right. He can't. He gets paid to fight, not play hockey.

Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:33 PM ET
It's not about the fighting. It's about the time you're choosing to put the enforcer on to the ice and asking him to go after someone, anyone. I haven't once heard you say "Laviolette should place Shelley on to the ice to go after Cutterbuck or to set the tone by fighting another tough player". I've only heard you say that you think Shelley should go after someone else. Who? From what you've been saying, since Cutterbuck was running our skill, it sounds like you were asking for an eye for an eye. Have Shelley run one of their players.

If I'm mistake, whatever. However, premeditated fights are not allowed these days.

- Schenn2shine

And yet premeditated fights occur all the time in hockey, hence we see the fights 4 seconds into games. Do you see anyone being fined for those? The coach? Don't think so. If Clutterbuck wants to skate around and blast skill guys without fighting Shelley, then Lava should know that Shelley can have his way with Wild skill players without any retribution from the opposition.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:34 PM ET
And yet premeditated fights occur all the time in hockey, hence we see the fights 4 seconds into games. Do you see anyone being fined for those? The coach? Don't think so. If Clutterbuck wants to skate around and blast skill guys without fighting Shelley, then Lava should know that Shelley can have his way with Wild skill players without any retribution from the opposition.
- Flyers1218


Its funny.. cause over Shelley's 10 year career he's been paid to FIGHT not play hockey.

But we'll just ignore that fact...
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:35 PM ET
Look at all those facts!!!

Legit NHL player? You've got to be kidding me. He's a joke to everyone. Players ignore him now. Flashback to 24/7 and Mike Rupp

Good career? You can't be serious.. he's a - player for his career... in 611 games he has 18 goals. Good career? No. Not thats not a good career.

Made a good living? Why yes, yes he did.

Supposedly can't play? You're right. He can't. He gets paid to fight, not play hockey.

- archion113


i'm not taking a position on this, but i do love this highlight:

archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:36 PM ET
i'm not taking a position on this, but i do love this highlight:


- wilsonecho91


Yeah.. 1 of his 18 goals in 611 games over 10 years.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:36 PM ET
Did i just mess up the page?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:37 PM ET
Did i just mess up the page?
- archion113


no, i think i did. that's the first video i ever tried to embed
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
no, i think i did. that's the first video i ever tried to embed
- wilsonecho91


Maybe we ruined it together? First date?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
Yeah.. 1 of his 18 goals in 611 games over 10 years.
- archion113


it was still sweet.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
no, i think i did. that's the first video i ever tried to embed
- wilsonecho91


You could be in trouble....
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
it was still sweet.
- wilsonecho91


Sweet? I dunno man... it was just a slap shot... he couldn't even make it to the goalie cause 9 guys were converging on him cause he's so slow...

KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
Let's stop talking about Jody freakin' Shelley and focus on more important things at hand like....

How long is it going to take until Steve Staios eats his lunch tomorrow?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:39 PM ET
Let's stop talking about Jody freakin' Shelley and focus on more important things at hand like....

How long is it going to take until Steve Staios eats his lunch tomorrow?

- KGBflyers10


i can't wait for Giroux to run him.
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