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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
speaking of which, what was the name of that short that "Josh, you asleep" came from? i just remember a pile of leaves.
- wilsonecho91


i'm afraid we'll never find that...the same way we'll never find the "hhhhhhhharm" movie.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
Did Shelley fight Clutterbuck today? I hope he sent him a nice text and settled this issue from last night.

Anything new

- stveshdy

no because he ran away from shelley and if shelley fought someone else the coach would be fined. Just updating you on the debate not my position on the matter.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:13 PM ET
Not leight. Never heard of it. Until now.
- rockychocbill


the falcon is an iron. the death star is a waffle iron. luke's name is fluke starbucker. you get the idea. it still kills me 30 years later.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 7:14 PM ET
no because he ran away from shelley and if shelley fought someone else the coach would be fined. Just updating you on the debate not my position on the matter.
- JoeRussomanno


Lets move to something alittle more important than #45.

Like the goaltending. Man do I want Bryz to succeed. I know its still early but I wish they would give him a nice chunk of consecutive games.

If Bob starts against NYI I can understand (bc of his numbers). Hopefully the team will come out ready to play and pick up another two points.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:17 PM ET
WTSerevalli was that?
- rockychocbill


one of my favorite commercials ever. "phillip rivers went all PHILIP RIIIIIVERS!"
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:19 PM ET
okay the conversation run its course, when we have to grasp at straws such as contemplating what the rich want to do.
- JoeRussomanno


For you maybe. For me, it doesn't make sense to do it, no matter how much salary the Coach is losing in doing so. It doesn't make sense for Laviolette to risk forfeiting money, to send Jody Shelley after a player that isn't Clutterbuck. It makes no sense at all, especially when the game is over and we're up by 4 goals.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 7:21 PM ET
the falcon is an iron. the death star is a waffle iron. luke's name is fluke starbucker. you get the idea. it still kills me 30 years later.
- hammarby31


From IMDB.com

Storyline

A parody of Star Wars, presented in the form of a movie preview. Young Fluke Starbucker, under the tutelage of Auggie "Ben" Doggie, learns to master the power of the Farce, while teaming up with Ham Salad to rescue Princess Anne-Droid and aid her fight against the evil Empire.


Budget: $8,000 (estimated)
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:24 PM ET
Lets move to something alittle more important than #45.

Like the goaltending. Man do I want Bryz to succeed. I know its still early but I wish they would give him a nice chunk of consecutive games.

If Bob starts against NYI I can understand (bc of his numbers). Hopefully the team will come out ready to play and pick up another two points.

- stveshdy

Im inclined to agree with what you have been saying on that subject then someone brought up how whatever Rhythm would be established before the Allstar break would be lost. Which also makes sense.

IMO this team is defensively flawed. Bryzgalov as good as I believe he is isn't good enough to overcome these flaws. Although Bobrovsky is perceived to be better and I agree has more potential, I still feel he would struggle with increased playing time case in point is the WC game which i still believe was the right decision at the time to start him. However until the team buys more into playing better in their own zone and or Holmgren gets the help needed, I'm not wasting energy arguing over the goalies.

Bryzgalov has never shown he can play behind a defensively terrible team, neither has bobrovsky. Put a team out there dedicated to eliminating the magnitude of scoring chances and sloppy turnovers and you should see more of what we got last night from either goalie.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:25 PM ET
For you maybe. For me, it doesn't make sense to do it, no matter how much salary the Coach is losing in doing so. It doesn't make sense for Laviolette to risk forfeiting money, to send Jody Shelley after a player that isn't Clutterbuck. It makes no sense at all, especially when the game is over and we're up by 4 goals.
- Schenn2shine

When is the last time a coach got fined for his enforcer fighting someone?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:26 PM ET
From IMDB.com

Storyline

A parody of Star Wars, presented in the form of a movie preview. Young Fluke Starbucker, under the tutelage of Auggie "Ben" Doggie, learns to master the power of the Farce, while teaming up with Ham Salad to rescue Princess Anne-Droid and aid her fight against the evil Empire.


Budget: $8,000 (estimated)

- rockychocbill


if you like star wars, you'll love this.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:26 PM ET
Im inclined to agree with what you have been saying on that subject then someone brought up how whatever Rhythm would be established before the Allstar break would be lost. Which also makes sense.

IMO this team is defensively flawed. Bryzgalov as good as I believe he is isn't good enough to overcome these flaws. Although Bobrovsky is perceived to be better and I agree has more potential, I still feel he would struggle with increased playing time case in point is the WC game which i still believe was the right decision at the time to start him. However until the team buys more into playing better in their own zone and or Holmgren gets the help needed, I'm not wasting energy arguing over the goalies.

Bryzgalov has never shown he can play behind a defensively terrible team, neither has bobrovsky. Put a team out there dedicated to eliminating the magnitude of scoring chances and sloppy turnovers and you should see more of what we got last night from either goalie.

- JoeRussomanno


I agree completely.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 7:28 PM ET
if you like star wars, you'll love this.
- hammarby31


I'm watching it now.

Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:30 PM ET
When is the last time a coach got fined for his enforcer fighting someone?
- JoeRussomanno


It's not about the fighting. It's about the time you're choosing to put the enforcer on to the ice and asking him to go after someone, anyone. I haven't once heard you say "Laviolette should place Shelley on to the ice to go after Cutterbuck or to set the tone by fighting another tough player". I've only heard you say that you think Shelley should go after someone else. Who? From what you've been saying, since Cutterbuck was running our skill, it sounds like you were asking for an eye for an eye. Have Shelley run one of their players.

If I'm mistake, whatever. However, premeditated fights are not allowed these days.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:32 PM ET
It's not about the fighting. It's about the time you're choosing to put the enforcer on to the ice and asking him to go after someone, anyone. I haven't once heard you say "Laviolette should place Shelley on to the ice to go after Cutterbuck or to set the tone by fighting another tough player". I've only heard you say that you think Shelley should go after someone else. Who? From what you've been saying, since Cutterbuck was running our skill, it sounds like you were asking for an eye for an eye. Have Shelley run one of their players.

If I'm mistake, whatever. However, premeditated fights are not allowed these days.

- Schenn2shine

That's basically what i've been saying this whole time.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:32 PM ET
Im inclined to agree with what you have been saying on that subject then someone brought up how whatever Rhythm would be established before the Allstar break would be lost. Which also makes sense.

IMO this team is defensively flawed. Bryzgalov as good as I believe he is isn't good enough to overcome these flaws. Although Bobrovsky is perceived to be better and I agree has more potential, I still feel he would struggle with increased playing time case in point is the WC game which i still believe was the right decision at the time to start him. However until the team buys more into playing better in their own zone and or Holmgren gets the help needed, I'm not wasting energy arguing over the goalies.

Bryzgalov has never shown he can play behind a defensively terrible team, neither has bobrovsky. Put a team out there dedicated to eliminating the magnitude of scoring chances and sloppy turnovers and you should see more of what we got last night from either goalie.

- JoeRussomanno



TheGoalieGuild The Goalie Guild
@wyshynski You are right on track with Miller. And Flyers like playing in front of Bob better because he works way harder, and has no ego.
17 Jan Favorite Retweet Reply
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:34 PM ET
TheGoalieGuild The Goalie Guild
@wyshynski You are right on track with Miller. And Flyers like playing in front of Bob better because he works way harder, and has no ego.
17 Jan Favorite Retweet Reply

- hammarby31

you might have to translate my twitter im still learning to speak twitter.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 7:34 PM ET
TheGoalieGuild The Goalie Guild
@wyshynski You are right on track with Miller. And Flyers like playing in front of Bob better because he works way harder, and has no ego.
17 Jan Favorite Retweet Reply

- hammarby31


I dont believe that tweet.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:34 PM ET
I'm watching it now.


- rockychocbill


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:36 PM ET
Then use the roster spot on one of the phantoms since we're doing this youth movement this year.
Even though I get what you are saying about the league going a certain way, i feel that's temporary, as the stinking enforcer rule needs to go. Last night is why, But even still I wouldnt have minded the designated enforcer taking someone to task.

- JoeRussomanno



I have zero argument with anyone who thinks they should use that roster spot differently.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 7:36 PM ET
G Ilya Bryzgalov, after Tuesday's 5-1 victory, allowed one goal or fewer for the first time in 10 games and the fifth time this season. "I guess it's no bad-bounce goals tonight, that's why it's a big difference," said Bryzgalov. "I don't know to be honest. ... I think the team played unbelievable and they gave up nothing today and ... yeah, I don't know."
(Yahoo! Sports)

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:36 PM ET
I dont believe that tweet.
- stveshdy


the goalieguild guy is legit. check out his site. and he's connected. doesn't mean you have to agree or disagree, just saying he's not some crackpot fan.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:38 PM ET
That's basically what i've been saying this whole time.
- JoeRussomanno

Which is what I'm again.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 7:38 PM ET
the goalieguild guy is legit. check out his site. and he's connected. doesn't mean you have to agree or disagree, just saying he's not some crackpot fan.
- hammarby31


Ill believe it when it comes from "FakePanotch"!!!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:39 PM ET
I have zero argument with anyone who thinks they should use that roster spot differently.
- MJL

That's basically the foundation for my argument against shelley. Like I said from the beginning i have no "hatred" for the guy as Mr. Pannacio implied we fans do. Just wish if he's not going to be a fighter than let's see what one of the kids from the phantoms can give to the team.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 7:40 PM ET
Which is what I'm again.
- Schenn2shine

I'm done talking about jodey shelley he IMO is a wasted roster space.
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