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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:17 PM ET

- stveshdy

bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
The only person making any kind of sense to me right now is Jsaq. I'm not going to fight with everyone because it's not easy but I'll say this.

Anyone could have went after Cutterbuck last night. Anyone. This doesn't fall on to the shoulders of Jody Shelley (Especially when so many recommends team toughness). Jody Shelley is an easy target for criticism because he's the enforcer. The same way Ilya Bryzgalov is an easy target when he doesn't get a win because he's the number one goalie and many on here doesn't know how team defense works.We don't know if Laviolette recommended that Shelley do not fight Cutterbuck or not. We have no idea. Shelley could have said something during a commercial break or in a scrum. What if Shelley wasn't in the line up and someone still didn't say anything. So where is the team toughness? I'm going to say nonexistent.

If many are offended with me not agreeing with their point of view. By all means, insult me. Get mad. You're doing a great job already. The Fact is, Shelley's on this team and all the whining over it means nothing.

- Schenn2shine


Clutterbuck outweighs Simmonds by 50 pounds. Shelley outweighs Clutterbuck by 5. Simmonds brings scoring and jam, so I would prefer he not fight and be off the ice for 5 mins or risk injury in a fight. That's what you purportedly have Shelley for. When DannyB went the other night, he went with a guy roughly his size and also a skilled guy. I was still a bit worried about his hands on the visor, but not worried he was overmatched.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
Its like asking a scorer not to score but to fight.
- stveshdy


that's called putting some jam into it.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 4:17 PM ET

- Crimsoninja


What up crim? Why the ?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
Bob vs Isles per Lavy. Cites record, can't argue
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
Giroux should have went after Clutterbuck.
- PLindbergh31

Simmonds, Talbot, Coburn, Burdon, etc.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
i highly, highly doubt it, but do you think he's purposefully giving up those big rebounds to test his defense to start the game? they are so bad they almost look intentional to me.
- wilsonecho91


I think he needs some early shots to get comfortable. Got to remember, his first coach as a NHLer was Francoid Allaire, and one of his teachings is, if you give up a rebound, give it right out in front of you, so you don't have to scramble for a quick shot off the rebound.

Of course, as the game went on, he was directing a lot more to the corners and swallowing the initial shot more often.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
Bob vs Isles per Lavy. Cites record, can't argue
- KINGKENZO


Lavy is starting Bob? Please tell me he isnt.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 18 @ 4:19 PM ET

- Crimsoninja


Hatein' on Rob Lowe, ultimate NFL insider?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
Bob vs Isles per Lavy. Cites record, can't argue
- KINGKENZO

With Isles' dads in the building, the fishsticks lose 5-1. Obligatory first goal scored by Carle's groomsman Tim Wallace (one week after Butsy's prediction) with his dad in from Alaska.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
Bob vs Isles per Lavy. Cites record, can't argue
- KINGKENZO


So much for not going by the numbers.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
Simmonds, Talbot, Coburn, Burdon, etc.
- Schenn2shine

I don't like losing a defenseman for 5 mins. And there are no outsized forwards.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
With Isles' dads in the building, the fishsticks lose 5-1. Obligatory first goal scored by Carle's groomsman Tim Wallace (one week after Butsy's prediction) with his dad in from Alaska.
- bodiva88


if his dad hasn't left yet, maybe i could go put nails in his tires. change history and all.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
Heatley was completely invisible last night..
- jak521


I seriously had forgotten he played for the Wild. I heard his name called at some point and thought they were just mispronouncing someone else's name.

Do we know for a fact that Shelly did not ask Clutterbuck to go? As I recall it does take two to fight right?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
Clutterbuck outweighs Simmonds by 50 pounds. Shelley outweighs Clutterbuck by 5. Simmonds brings scoring and jam, so I would prefer he not fight and be off the ice for 5 mins or risk injury in a fight. That's what you purportedly have Shelley for. When DannyB went the other night, he went with a guy roughly his size and also a skilled guy. I was still a bit worried about his hands on the visor, but not worried he was overmatched.
- bodiva88

Okay, so let me ask you this. The same way when Bryz doesn't have a good game when allowing bad goals, the media normally claw away to find out what happened. The Media could ask why Shelley isn't fighting. In fact, with his price tag I would want to find out why the Flyer continue to carry Shelley. Sure you can say that the Media doesn't want to bother with the time but with the trade time nearing, why not? They can ask Shelley directly and they can ask Laviolette who should have all the answers.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:21 PM ET

- Crimsoninja


Where is Coughlin on the Weekly Coaching Rankings?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
I don't like losing a defenseman for 5 mins. And there are no outsized forwards.
- bodiva88

With Simmonds, size isn't a factor. I think we've seen this every time Simmonds has dropped the cloves. In fact, Simmonds would become even more poppular with fans if he was the one who dropped Clutterbuck.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
I seriously had forgotten he played for the Wild. I heard his name called at some point and thought they were just mispronouncing someone else's name.

Do we know for a fact that Shelly did not ask Clutterbuck to go? As I recall it does take two to fight right?

- MBFlyerfan


I didnt even watch the game... i just took the oppurtunity to beat on Shelley... i'm not mad that he didn't fight Cal or try to... they got 2 points... thats all that matters for a team they don't play again until next year or the cup finals...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
I don't like losing a defenseman for 5 mins. And there are no outsized forwards.
- bodiva88


Don't be silly. The enforcer shouldn't have handled Clutterbuck, that's not his job.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Lavy is starting Bob? Please tell me he isnt.
- stveshdy

He's on the radio and actually suprised he answered the question, given his proclivity for waiting to announce it
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Got treated to the Flyers West vs Canucks game last night. Pretty good goaltenders duel between Quick and Luongo. Hooked up with Cascadia's Marc D. during the first intermission. Richards had a sub-par game through 65 minutes but got the Kings the extra point with a beauty shot in the Showcase Showdown.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Lavy is starting Bob? Please tell me he isnt.
- stveshdy


This is what I am talking about. Utter nonsense if true.

How the hell is Bryz supposed to get in a rhythm like this? Now if Bob plays great again, it just starts the whole bullpoop over again.

Lavy has one Achilles heal with this team and it is goaltending.
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
Got treated to the Flyers West vs Canucks game last night. Pretty good goaltenders duel between Quick and Luongo. Hooked up with Cascadia's Marc D. during the first intermission. Richards had a sub-par game through 65 minutes but got the Kings the extra point with a beauty shot in the Showcase Showdown.
- rockychocbill


When you say hooked up... to what do you mean?

Im really starting to hate Julie and her stupid videos that keep popping up on here... can't stand her...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
The only person making any kind of sense to me right now is Jsaq. I'm not going to fight with everyone because it's not easy but I'll say this.

Anyone could have went after Cutterbuck last night. Anyone. This doesn't fall on to the shoulders of Jody Shelley (Especially when so many recommends team toughness). Jody Shelley is an easy target for criticism because he's the enforcer. The same way Ilya Bryzgalov is an easy target when he doesn't get a win because he's the number one goalie and many on here don't know how team defense works.We don't know if Laviolette recommended that Shelley do not fight Cutterbuck or not. We have no idea. Shelley could have said something during a commercial break or in a scrum. What if Shelley wasn't in the line up and someone still didn't say anything. So where is the team toughness? I'm going to say nonexistent.

If many are offended with me not agreeing with their point of view. By all means, insult me. Get mad. You're doing a great job already. The Fact is, Shelley's on this team and all the whining over it means nothing.

- Schenn2shine



stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
This is what I am talking about. Utter nonsense if true.

How the hell is Bryz supposed to get in a rhythm like this? Now if Bob plays great again, it just starts the whole bullpoop over again.

Lavy has one Achilles heal with this team and it is goaltending.

- MBFlyerfan


To not play Bryzgalov Thurs night is wrong. You should go right back to your horse no matter the numbers Bob has against the NYI. You think another team would sit their suppose #1 goalie out after only playing one game?
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