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SabreHess
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 06.21.2011

Jan 17 @ 9:05 PM ET
But in your example... Does miller + whatever (stafford, etc) get us back a #1 center AND a substantial goalie? Like u pointed out, any team "upgrading" to miller prob doesn't have a worthwhile goalie to send back to us

It's hard for me to see how a deal like this works for us

- jdfitz77


Possibly Hiller if Anaheim wants to blow things up like us. Other than that we'd be looking at guys to platoon with Enroth. Which honestly I'd be fine with.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:06 PM ET
Doesn't matter from a Colorado standpoint as they have 31.8mil in space as of today.


From our standpoint we gain 817k in space for next year.

- dadeadhead


Not a big savings.
SabreHess
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:07 PM ET
Berglund, Oshie, Backes, and Halak are who I'd be interested in.
- dadeadhead


Halak could work actually, and Berglund/Roy are good trading partners.

I'd love Oshie and Backes, but there's no reason St Louis would ever look to move those two. Not unless they really slump before the trade deadline...even then, those guys are Hitchcock players and it's just a pipe dream for us.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:07 PM ET
The Hawks are not good trading partners for us.
Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM ET
What exactly is Derek Roy doing that makes anyone think we can't afford to trade him because it would leave a big hole at center?

From what I've seen this team could lose just the same with Szechura (sp) at center.
Buffalo--Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:09 PM ET
Halak could work actually, and Berglund/Roy are good trading partners.

I'd love Oshie and Backes, but there's no reason St Louis would ever look to move those two. Not unless they really slump before the trade deadline...even then, those guys are Hitchcock players and it's just a pipe dream for us.

- SabreHess



I saw Halak make a save last night. Thats more than I've seen from Miller since Halloween.
SabreHess
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:09 PM ET
What exactly is Derek Roy doing that makes anyone think we can't afford to trade him because it would leave a big hole at center?

From what I've seen this team could lose just the same with Szechura (sp) at center.

- Losman


You're right...but shhhhh don't let the other NHL teams know that. We're trying to gain leverage in a trade here!
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:11 PM ET
What exactly is Derek Roy doing that makes anyone think we can't afford to trade him because it would leave a big hole at center?

From what I've seen this team could lose just the same with Szechura (sp) at center.

- Losman

Pretty good point . Roy is the roy of last year

Fixed in case scouts are reading
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM ET
What exactly is Derek Roy doing that makes anyone think we can't afford to trade him because it would leave a big hole at center?

From what I've seen this team could lose just the same with Szechura (sp) at center.

- Losman


Do we not currently have a HUGE hole at center?
Trading Roy (who is usually a top20 scorer) + whatever it'd take to get a true #1center still leaves us without a #2 and weakens us at another spot...

I don't see how that drastically improves us... We still would only have 1 line that scores

And admittedly, Roy is not scoring this year, but that isn't the norm
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:19 PM ET
Possibly Hiller if Anaheim wants to blow things up like us. Other than that we'd be looking at guys to platoon with Enroth. Which honestly I'd be fine with.
- SabreHess


I Think you need a set #1 goalie come playoff time
Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:19 PM ET
Do we not currently have a HUGE hole at center?
Trading Roy (who is usually a top20 scorer) + whatever it'd take to get a true #1center still leaves us without a #2 and weakens us at another spot...

I don't see how that drastically improves us... We still would only have 1 line that scores

And admittedly, Roy is not scoring this year, but that isn't the norm

- jdfitz77


Factor in that he's a jackass off the ice and I think it makes perfect sense to deal him.

Convert Pominville or Ennis to center. Or find 2 centers between now and next season.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM ET
I Think you need a set #1 goalie come playoff time
- jdfitz77



We have a year or so to worry about playoffs.
Buffalo--Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:24 PM ET
If you could have Pegula pay one celebrity to give the Sabres a ream your ass out pep talk who would it be?


I'm think'in Denzel Washington.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:24 PM ET
Factor in that he's a jackass off the ice and I think it makes perfect sense to deal him.

Convert Pominville or Ennis to center. Or find 2 centers between now and next season.

- Losman

Adam is a center and pommer pretty much plays that. We just don't have that top 20 center still and thats what we need . With roy gone . Do we have a #2 center in adam or pommer ?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:26 PM ET
If you could have Pegula pay one celebrity to give the Sabres a ream your ass out pep talk who would it be?


I'm think'in Denzel Washington.

- Buffalo--Sabres

Morgan Freeman
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:27 PM ET
If you could have Pegula pay one celebrity to give the Sabres a ream your ass out pep talk who would it be?


I'm think'in Denzel Washington.

- Buffalo--Sabres





1:39 mark

R Lee Ermey
Blues Domination
St Louis Blues
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Joined: 09.28.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:27 PM ET
the only teams that need goalies phoenix, tampa, edmonton, new jersey, islanders, cbus, and toronto,

All the money Buffalo spent--not many more disappointing team in the NHL.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
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Jan 17 @ 9:28 PM ET
Factor in that he's a jackass off the ice and I think it makes perfect sense to deal him.

Convert Pominville or Ennis to center. Or find 2 centers between now and next season.

- Losman


If we find two centers then that makes sense...but I want one here 1st, and then I'd deal Roy in a package for another one
And I think we've seen (time after time after time) that converting wingers to play center works out pretty poorly
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:28 PM ET
As long as Crawford is in the deal.
- dadeadhead


No thanks, he'll be the reason the Hawks don't win the Cup and I' not sure Beech will ever make the NHL in Chicago, not sure I want that in return.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM ET
If you could have Pegula pay one celebrity to give the Sabres a ream your ass out pep talk who would it be?


I'm think'in Denzel Washington.

- Buffalo--Sabres



Tim Tebow...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM ET
Kyle turris is a bum
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM ET
Tim Tebow...
- rmiethaner



R Lee Ermey would make him cry.
SABRES 89
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Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM ET
the only teams that need goalies phoenix, tampa, edmonton, new jersey, islanders, cbus, and toronto,

All the money Buffalo spent--not many more disappointing team in the NHL.

- Blues Domination

Phoenix does not
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM ET
R Lee Ermey would make him cry.
- dadeadhead



Yes he would.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM ET
Kyle turris is a bum
- gerbe75pts



Yeah he wouldn't helped this team.
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