Dom loved the spotlight and came up big in big situations. He loved be top dog and thrived under pressure. But what I remember most was his parting shot, "this organization will never win a cup". Who was coach and gm?
- bflodukes

Bert and Ernie.

I think they will keep one of the two. If they don't, well I wouldn't want to be Poile.
- Gunner Staal

I stand by my thought that it's Weber.

He's an RFA and Nashville can elect to take him to arbitration. They will request a 2yr deal. Gives them 2 more years to figure out how to keep him long term.

The Sabres should focus on getting Suter.

bozo n ozone

I stand by my thought that it's Weber.

He's an RFA and Nashville can elect to take him to arbitration. They will request a 2yr deal. Gives them 2 more years to figure out how to keep him long term.

The Sabres should focus on getting Suter.
- dadeadhead

I don't believe the team has the option to take him to arbitration, as they did it last year and I believe it is a one time only proposition.

Weber on the other hand, can take them to arbitration.

The difference between the two is that when it is team initiated the deal is automatically accepted, when player initiated the team has the choice on whether to accept or walk away.

It would make things really interesting if Weber chose not to go to arbitration, however I think he would with only a 2 year max on the deal and the ability to be a UFA.

If he doesn't want to stay in Nashville long term, I doubt he would sign an offer sheet from any team long term, knowing that the Predators could match it and he would be stuck there.

I do actually believe he wants to stay in Nashville, but only if they prove they are serious about acquiring a more powerful offense to help lead the way to a Cup, without that commitment, I don't think he wants to waste his career with no chance at the Cup.

I don't believe the team has the option to take him to arbitration, as they did it last year and I believe it is a one time only proposition.

Weber on the other hand, can take them to arbitration.

The difference between the two is that when it is team initiated the deal is automatically accepted, when player initiated the team has the choice on whether to accept or walk away.
- Gunner Staal

I thought he elected arbitration last year?

You're right they took him to arb.


They'll match any offer made to him this offseason.

I thought he elected arbitration last year?
- dadeadhead

I don't believe so, I will look it up. Sorry about my late editing of the previous posts, bad habit.

The Nashville Predators' decision to go to salary arbitration with Shea Weber on Tuesday cemented one fact. Within 48 hours there would be finality to the star defenseman's contract situation.


The Predators filed for arbitration with Weber, a restricted free agent, in order to prevent another team from signing him to an offer sheet.

http://www.usatoday.com/s...er-arbitration-case_n.htm

The Nashville Predators' decision to go to salary arbitration with Shea Weber on Tuesday cemented one fact. Within 48 hours there would be finality to the star defenseman's contract situation.


The Predators filed for arbitration with Weber, a restricted free agent, in order to prevent another team from signing him to an offer sheet.

http://www.usatoday.com/s...er-arbitration-case_n.htm
- Gunner Staal

Yeah I threw an edit in there.

It was never his fault before because he always got a free pass.


I said at the begining of the season, his free pass has expired. The season rest solely on his shoulders. He buckled, move him.
- dadeadhead

Disagree you can blame Darcy for bad moves and bad contracts he gave out, does some fall on Miller? sure it does but not all of it.

I thought he elected arbitration last year?

You're right they took him to arb.


They'll match any offer made to him this offseason.
- dadeadhead

I think Weber knows that too, I would be surprised if he signed a long term offer sheet from another team with the fear of being locked in with Nashville, if indeed he wants to move on.

Disagree you can blame Darcy for bad moves and bad contracts he gave out, does some fall on Miller? sure it does but not all of it.
- SABRES 89

This was his time to shine and prove he was "Elite".


It was never Miller's fault for anything ever.

He takes the heat for the season and rightfully so.

This was his time to shine and prove he was "Elite".


It was never Miller's fault for anything ever.

He takes the heat for the season and rightfully so.
- dadeadhead

Agree to disagree

I think Weber knows that too, I would be surprised if he signed a long term offer sheet from another team with the fear of being locked in with Nashville, if indeed he wants to move on.
- Gunner Staal

I tend to agree. He'll be in Nashville at least one more year.

I still think Suter should be the key UFA the Sabres need to key on.

I tend to agree. He'll be in Nashville at least one more year.

I still think Suter should be the key UFA the Sabres need to key on.
- dadeadhead

7M/yr is what I believe he wants when I talked to some Nashville fans a few months back during the whole Weber arbitration time period from this past off season.

Agree to disagree
- SABRES 89

When a person keeps getting a free pass on being part of the problem, eventually he becomes the problem.


Darcy, Lindy, Roy, Staff, Vanek(at times), Pommer(same as Vanek), the defense, the lack of scoring, Connolly, Drury, Briere, lack of center depth, ect.

These have all been proclaimed as part of the problem in past years. Miller escaped all the criticism. Not anymore IMO.

7M/yr is what I believe he wants when I talked to some Nashville fans a few months back during the whole Weber arbitration time period from this past off season.
- Gunner Staal

I don't think Suter wants to be in Nashville. He'll get a 7-10yr deal avg 5.8-6.2 this summer. He can become the partner Myers needs or be his replacement if the Myers for Getz rumors have any legs to them.

I don't think Suter wants to be in Nashville. He'll get a 7-10yr deal avg 5.8-6.2 this summer. He can become the partner Myers needs or be his replacement if the Myers for Getz rumors have any legs to them.
- dadeadhead

I just don't see the Ducks moving him.

I just don't see the Ducks moving him.
- Gunner Staal

I can't see how they can move him but stranger things have happened.


Who would've thought Philly moves Richards and Carter?

I'm still trying to figure out how this whole bad season so far is Miller's fault? I know he's part of the problem but he's not the whole problem, let's not forget the crap that is playing in front of him. Turnovers, can't score, no back checking, lazy, no heart that's not all Miller's fault.
- SABRES 89

And I'm still trying to figure out how people's memories can be so skewed as to think that Biron was as good as Miller.

For the record, in the two (or one and a half) seasons where they were effectively competing for the starting job:

Ryan Miller 2005-06 2.60gaa .914sv%
Marty Biron 2005-06 2.73 gaa .905sv%

Ryan Miller 2006-07 2.88gaa .905sv%
Marty Biron 2006-07 3.04gaa .899sv%

I can't see how they can move him but stranger things have happened.


Who would've thought Philly moves Richards and Carter?
- dadeadhead

The Philly thing was quite the statement, but that was about off ice things. To my knowledge the Ducks stuff is strictly on ice related.

This was his time to shine and prove he was "Elite".


It was never Miller's fault for anything ever.

He takes the heat for the season and rightfully so.
- dadeadhead

This is a motivational problem and not a problem with contracts or who is on the ice. When the season started this team needed to be more physical on the backend and needed puck moving d. They addressed that and thought they had addressed scoring in the middle with Leino, which didn't work. So we look for another solution and that takes time. But in the mean while it's up to Lindy to coach, motivate and come up with something to compensate for our lack of scoring. He has not and the product on the ice suffers as well as team chemistry and morale. Granted that making moves is difficult because of contracts, so we are stuck with what we have.
Major changes will not happen until the off season and with labor unrest it could be a long offseason. Bringing someone in from outside is what will happen and Darcy would probally remain as head of scouting. A new GM would probally want their own coach, so Lundy may be gone or move into an assistant gm spot. Until then we grin and bear it

Something must be brewing...Garth is awfully quiet.

This is a motivational problem and not a problem with contracts or who is on the ice. When the season started this team needed to be more physical on the backend and needed puck moving d. They addressed that and thought they had addressed scoring in the middle with Leino, which didn't work. So we look for another solution and that takes time. But in the mean while it's up to Lindy to coach, motivate and come up with something to compensate for our lack of scoring. He has not and the product on the ice suffers as well as team chemistry and morale. Granted that making moves is difficult because of contracts, so we are stuck with what we have.
Major changes will not happen until the off season and with labor unrest it could be a long offseason. Bringing someone in from outside is what will happen and Darcy would probally remain as head of scouting. A new GM would probally want their own coach, so Lindy may be gone or move into an assistant gm spot. Until then we grin and bear it
- bflodukes

And I'm still trying to figure out how people's memories can be so skewed as to think that Biron was as good as Miller.

For the record, in the two (or one and a half) seasons where they were effectively competing for the starting job:

Ryan Miller 2005-06 2.60gaa .914sv%
Marty Biron 2005-06 2.73 gaa .905sv%

Ryan Miller 2006-07 2.88gaa .905sv%
Marty Biron 2006-07 3.04gaa .899sv%
- Zeebadaboodee

Biron went 11-0-2 in a strech of games that Miller was out with injury in 05/06.

Those also aren't glowing numbers for Miller either. Both avg goalies. Biron and this team would've done no better or worse if he had been the starting goaltender all this time. In the cap era you can't spend 6.25 mil on a guy that isn't a guy that can carry a team on his back when needed.

To my knowledge Miller has only put his team on his back like he needs to all the time is from Oct 09 to the Olympics.

I'm still trying to figure out how this whole bad season so far is Miller's fault? I know he's part of the problem but he's not the whole problem, let's not forget the crap that is playing in front of him. Turnovers, can't score, no back checking, lazy, no heart that's not all Miller's fault.
- SABRES 89

Miller is not the whole problem but he is a huge part of it. He flat out sucks this year and averages more then 3 gaa per game for a reason and that reason is not soly the defense which I agree also sucks. Miller is not stopping the shots he used to stop and is not making any of the big saves he used to make period. I do not think his heart is in it anymore and a change of scenery as much as I would hate to see it is the right thing to do. Regardless that he is playing bad this year his trade value is still realy high due to past performances and him being relativly young. Plus the fact he is under contract for 2 more years is even more apealing to other clubs. Stafford,roy,leino,keleta,gaustad,hecht,miller,gragnani,weber all need to go period.