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- niteislander

PAP

XxNYIxX

it's a terrible option, and it's almost laughable that it's a better option than the current building. The brooklyn building if I remember reading correctly, was only going to be able to hold about 14k for hockey as it wasn't initially designed for it.

That being said, if it does become an option it may just mean that they remain a small market team, but with a better building and hopefully that would free up Snow to spend a bit more money and attract a free agent that doesn't come with a walker.

I'm predicting that tonight the Isles lose 4-1. The only goal will be moulson from JT and hamonic, extending JT's point streak to 10 games.

How he can be 9 points off the league lead in points on a team with zero secondary scoring is incredibly impressive. Every team knows all they have to do is stop JT and they haven't been able to do it. My only enjoyment watching this team finish off another wasted season is watching JT play. This kid has grown into a true NHL star and no one on this team works harder and plays through the abuse he takes every game. The fact that his talent is being wasted by the Isles is disgusting. Give this kid a team he can take to the playoffs!
- Isles_since_6

sick call!!!

with rolston it's all about reaching the salary cap floor for THIS season...regardless of how he plays. Should be moved to the 4th line.
alot of people bashing pandolfo. played a good game last night ...blocked a keyshot in the closing seconds of the second period.
- Mike C

And flubbed about four passes in prime scoring areas. There's a reason he didn't have a job in the NHL last year and wouldn't have had one this year. His time has come and gone. At least he tries...I do agree there...and sacrificing his body was evidence of that. If Rolston put forth Pandolfo's effort, he may still be a serviceable forward. But we can do better than Pandolfo...in fact we have better players. Andy Hilbert blocked shots and gave 100% every shift too. But players like that simply aren't good enough to hold down an NHL spot anymore.

I dont know how anyone can think this kid isnt a soild player

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

sell high!!!

sell high!!!
- LetsGoIsles

Agreed. I like PA, but if some team was willing to give up something useful for him, I'd trade him. I certainly wouldn't re-sign him just yet and ruin his value as a rental. He might be a good chip to have come trade deadline when teams overpay for secondary scoring.

I don't see how anyone can say that. Its a great option. It may be an inconvenient one for some of the "fans" who occasionally go out to the games and support the team, but for the team, its a great option. The Barclays is located in the heart of downtown Brooklyn. I used to live five minutes from there. Seven subway lines and LIRR all run into Flatbush Ave and are walking distance to the Barclays. The team would be exposing itself to NYC corporate sponsorship, from companies who can't afford NYR tix or can't get access to them. They'll have a new arena capable of generating revenue to pump into the team. Money from an arena isn't made from the seats, its made from the corporate sponsors and luxury suites. The NVMC has neither. The Barclays will have both.

Would I like another alternative closer to LI? Sure. But Nassau County is not going to build the team a new arena and Wang isn't going to pay to build one himself, especially if he won't be sold the land by the County to build on. Queens is an option and may materialize, but right now, the Barclays may be the Isles' best chance of staying in the area.
- Jethro09

Agreed. I like PA, but if some team was willing to give up something useful for him, I'd trade him. I certainly wouldn't re-sign him just yet and ruin his value as a rental. He might be a good chip to have come trade deadline when teams overpay for secondary scoring.
- UIF

Yeah, but what are you going to get for PAP? Another "prospect"? another "pick"? This team has too many "prospects" and "picks". It needs NHL-level players. NHL contributors. PAP is that. Half the other forwards on the roster aren't.

The farm system is stocked. I'm done with moving proven players for draft picks and prospects. They need to think about moving prospects and picks for legit NHL veteran talent than the other way around if they truly want to compete for a playoff spot. You want to move Nabokov? I don't think you can now with Useless RDP done for another season. Want to move Streit? Okay, but then who takes his place? The 1st PP unit is humming with Streit as its QB and he's signed for another season. The only vets i'd like to see traded are Jurcina, Eaton, Mottau, RDP, Rolston, Pandolfo and Reasoner but none of those guys are wanted by any other team.

Yeah, but what are you going to get for PAP? Another "prospect"? another "pick"? This team has too many "prospects" and "picks". It needs NHL-level players. NHL contributors. PAP is that. Half the other forwards on the roster aren't.

The farm system is stocked. I'm done with moving proven players for draft picks and prospects. They need to think about moving prospects and picks for legit NHL veteran talent than the other way around if they truly want to compete for a playoff spot. You want to move Nabokov? I don't think you can now with Useless RDP done for another season. Want to move Streit? Okay, but then who takes his place? The 1st PP unit is humming with Streit as its QB and he's signed for another season. The only vets i'd like to see traded are Jurcina, Eaton, Mottau, RDP, Rolston, Pandolfo and Reasoner but none of those guys are wanted by any other team.
- Jethro09

hahaha.....come on!!! you have to give to get!!! why doesnt anyone get that?? everyone cries how garth never makes moves and then says but i only want to trade the least productive players on the team....cake have your cake and eat it too

But how "hefty"? Right now, the Barclays has no co-tenant with the Nets. It would be in their best interests to sign up a co-tenant to take up a guaranteed 41 dates per year. I don't think the rent would be eggregious, certainly not as much as would make it not worth it to sign a lease there.

The reality is, no matter where he goes now, he's going to be a "tenant". If they go to KC, the arena is already built there. He'd be a tenant. The arena in Quebec is going to be built i think by the municipality and he'd be a tenant there too. He'd be a tenant in Nassau, since the county won't sell him the land the coliseum sits on and he won't build an arena for the county on county-owned land out of funds in his own pocket. It looks like he's a "tenant" no matter where the team plays.
- Jethro09

Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right as I don't want them leaving the area. All I'm saying is that Wang becoming a tenant goes against all his initial ideas and visions in owning this team. I think the KC option is off the table, and as someone said in a previous post, them moving to Quebec would be under new ownership that completely overpaid just to get another franchise in Canada. The other options he might have as a tenant would potentially include him profiting from ALL events at the arena. This might make the tenant option a little more attractive to him. He wouldn't get that at Barclays.

The Isles have the 5th ranked PP% in the league, and we all know that it's not because of our 2nd unit. Our powerplay was on point last night and PA fit in perfectly fine. No need to fix what's not broken, first line is absolutely rolling now with Okposo on it and our PP has looked pretty damn good with PA on the first unit.

Not comparing you to this moron in any way, shape, or form but I had to school some dumbass on Twitter last week who wanted to move Tavares to RW and have Bailey center the first line. Couldn't grasp the fact that although we may not be winning any titles this year, you still don't change the only truly good thing about this team.
- eichiefs9

i remember EVERYONE getting on my case and saying taking PAP off the top line is a bad idea because there is nothing wrong with the top line....

just because something isnt BLATANTLY obvious doesnt mean its right

hahaha.....come on!!! you have to give to get!!! why doesnt anyone get that?? everyone cries how garth never makes moves and then says but i only want to trade the least productive players on the team....cake have your cake and eat it too
- LetsGoIsles

hahaha.....come on!!! you have to give to get!!! why doesnt anyone get that?? everyone cries how garth never makes moves and then says but i only want to trade the least productive players on the team....cake have your cake and eat it too
- LetsGoIsles

Oh, I get that. I didn't say I wanted anything in return for that crap. I just wanted to trade it so they were gone. Addition by subtraction.

Yeah, but what are you going to get for PAP? Another "prospect"? another "pick"? This team has too many "prospects" and "picks". It needs NHL-level players. NHL contributors. PAP is that. Half the other forwards on the roster aren't.

The farm system is stocked. I'm done with moving proven players for draft picks and prospects. They need to think about moving prospects and picks for legit NHL veteran talent than the other way around if they truly want to compete for a playoff spot. You want to move Nabokov? I don't think you can now with Useless RDP done for another season. Want to move Streit? Okay, but then who takes his place? The 1st PP unit is humming with Streit as its QB and he's signed for another season. The only vets i'd like to see traded are Jurcina, Eaton, Mottau, RDP, Rolston, Pandolfo and Reasoner but none of those guys are wanted by any other team.
- Jethro09

I'm horrible at trade proposals and stuff like that, but let's say a team getting ready to make a run was in need of secondary scoring and was willing to trade a legit NHL-ready D prospect for PA and one of our hit-or-miss D prospects. Would you do it? Maybe that's unrealistic, but I do think a cheap rental that's proven to be a good setup man could bring a decent return. Test the waters is all I'm saying. If no one bites, then re-sign him just before the deadline is up.

If there is time to trade Nabokov its Now. Fresh off a shutout and great performace vs Buffalo.

Especially if El Cubano coming back.

Detroit, Wash, Chi. Any team willing to give us a very promising young Dman or Foward. Not a draft pick.

i remember EVERYONE getting on my case and saying taking PAP off the top line is a bad idea because there is nothing wrong with the top line....

just because something isnt BLATANTLY obvious doesnt mean its right
- LetsGoIsles

When Okposo was playing like dog crap there was no reason to change that line. Once he got his game together he simply earned a spot on that line over PA. If Okposo gets stale on that line I'll be the first one on here saying that it should change, but right now they're one of the most productive lines in the NHL. When PA got stale I was thrilled to see Kyle get a shot on that line, but had they done it when he was playing Rolston-like I would have been furious.

If there is time to trade Nabokov its Now. Fresh off a shutout and great performace vs Buffalo.

Especially if El Cubano coming back.

Detroit, Wash, Chi. Any team willing to give us a very promising young Dman or Foward. Not a draft pick.
- Spartiarti

Sounds like Roloson for Wishart all over again! I'd rather package Nabby with someone and get a legit defensemen in return...if that's possible. Find a team that needs a goalie and PP quarterback and package Streit?? I'd do that for a bruising, stay at home defensemen. We got some offensive defensive prospects in Bridgeport that could make the team out of camp next year.

If there is time to trade Nabokov its Now. Fresh off a shutout and great performace vs Buffalo.

Especially if El Cubano coming back.

Detroit, Wash, Chi. Any team willing to give us a very promising young Dman or Foward. Not a draft pick.
- Spartiarti

Nabokov won't fetch a return of anyone that's very promising. All he's proved to me so far is that he could be about as reliable as Marty Biron. An above-average back-up that could steal you a few games and provide average goaltending should your starter go down.

Sounds like Roloson for Wishart all over again! I'd rather package Nabby with someone and get a legit defensemen in return...if that's possible. Find a team that needs a goalie and PP quarterback and package Streit?? I'd do that for a bruising, stay at home defensemen. We got some offensive defensive prospects in Bridgeport that could make the team out of camp next year.
- Charlie21

i bet you would make that trade!!!!

which is EXACTLY why deals like that dont present itself.

i will continue to say that wishart for roloson was a good deal!!!

When Okposo was playing like dog crap there was no reason to change that line. Once he got his game together he simply earned a spot on that line over PA. If Okposo gets stale on that line I'll be the first one on here saying that it should change, but right now they're one of the most productive lines in the NHL. When PA got stale I was thrilled to see Kyle get a shot on that line, but had they done it when he was playing Rolston-like I would have been furious.
- eichiefs9

ehhhh.....weak argument.

kyle okposo wasnt exactly picking his game up before he was sent to the top line... he had 1 point in the previous 5 games before he was promoted to top line.

(since his promotion he has 9 points in 10 games)

i bet you would make that trade!!!!

which is EXACTLY why deals like that dont present itself.
i will continue to say that wishart for roloson was a good deal!!!
- LetsGoIsles

You're 100% correct on that point. That's why a good GM makes that deal happen. Deals are out there, you just gotta find them. Nabby and Streit are very good players that could help another team. It takes good players to get good players. While Streit isn't the best defensively, he is one of the league's best blue liners on the PP.

Sounds like Roloson for Wishart all over again! I'd rather package Nabby with someone and get a legit defensemen in return...if that's possible. Find a team that needs a goalie and PP quarterback and package Streit?? I'd do that for a bruising, stay at home defensemen. We got some offensive defensive prospects in Bridgeport that could make the team out of camp next year.
- Charlie21

Im all for that. As Long it is a legit dman. But who trading away their best dman? noone.

If isles out of picture by deadline, i would try to trade Streit for a stud.
Reality is unless a bigtime goalie on top team goes down, Nabby wont get much.

ehhhh.....weak argument.

kyle okposo wasnt exactly picking his game up before he was sent to the top line... he had 1 point in the previous 5 games before he was promoted to top line.

(since his promotion he has 9 points in 10 games)
- LetsGoIsles

Points are hardly the only factor that comes into play when determining where you play. He got benched because he wasn't playing his game. Once he got back to doing the little things right and playing the high energy game we've all come to expect from him he outplayed PA while the team was in a bit of a slump, as was Tavares in the goal-scoring department.

sick call!!!
- LetsGoIsles

I almost got the JT goal call

It was nice to see them win, but I'm sure they'll follow it up with a stinker against the flyers.

Points are hardly the only factor that comes into play when determining where you play. He got benched because he wasn't playing his game. Once he got back to doing the little things right and playing the high energy game we've all come to expect from him he outplayed PA while the team was in a bit of a slump, as was Tavares in the goal-scoring department.
- eichiefs9

EXACTLY my case when explaining why PAP isnt that valuable to this team....

Bailey will not get his 100th point this year playing with Rolston. The kid is not a great player and at this point is not even good. Hes just ok, but playing with Rolston makes him look terrible. It is unfair because Bailey and Martin are forced to kill penalties the whole game. Thats how bad Rolston is. No wonder Bailey and Martin became so much better defensively.