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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 2:59 PM ET
I remember this board a few years ago right before the JT draft. Many on here were saying draft Duchene, tavares is overrated and can't skate. I was like NO WAY JT will be unreal and we need him more than anything. It seems it was the right choice. What a player Johnny is becoming. We should test his skills to the max. Put Rolston on his line. If he can get Rolston going he is the best in the league hands down. Of course this will be a huge test since Rolston is Rolston.
- mighty13duck



wtf?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:01 PM ET
wtf?
- LetsGoIsles

Bad idea?
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Jan 18 @ 3:03 PM ET
Bad idea?
- mighty13duck


Rolston should be in the press box. I had a rant on here two days ago that I might repost every blog. I hate this man with a passion. He doesn't deserve to be in the NHL with his lack of effort. At least when Jon Sim was here he gave everything he had on every shift AND was more productive yet we all hated him.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 18 @ 3:03 PM ET
Bailey is alot better than you think. he is a very well rounded player. He isnt just going to do one thing right. His Pking is excellent and he is great passer. The issue lies in playign with Rolston. Rolston drags down any line he is on.

Bailey was putting up points every night when he was playing with Ullstrom. Skill needs some skill.

- Spartiarti




Im one of Baileys biggest fans, but I dont like his battle level. Yes he's dragged down with Rolston as his liney..........and quite frankly has NEVER had legit wingers to play with. But, with that said, he should be playing with more desperation. I'd like to see him skate with more jam....
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:05 PM ET
Rolston should be in the press box. I had a rant on here two days ago that I might repost every blog. I hate this man with a passion. He doesn't deserve to be in the NHL with his lack of effort. At least when Jon Sim was here he gave everything he had on every shift AND was more productive yet we all hated him.
- Isles316

Sim like Rolston and Pandolfo is not needed on this team. We have so much young talent that deserve a shot before any of these guys. You can not tell me that Ullstrum would be as bad as Rolston.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
Sim like Rolston and Pandolfo is not needed on this team. We have so much young talent that deserve a shot before any of these guys. You can not tell me that Ullstrum would be as bad as Rolston.
- mighty13duck


I really liked what I saw of Ulstrom. I had read that he wasn't developing into a top line player somewhere last year, but watching him I really like his game. Plays big, drives to the net, isn't afraid of traffic and has some decent hands.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:00 PM ET
Im one of Baileys biggest fans, but I dont like his battle level. Yes he's dragged down with Rolston as his liney..........and quite frankly has NEVER had legit wingers to play with. But, with that said, he should be playing with more desperation. I'd like to see him skate with more jam....
- kindlyrick


And that was the 'lowdown' on him has a prospect. Scouts said he had decent vision and hands but lacked the competitive fire to be a consistent forward. Bailey has shown flashes but seems to be one of these guys that shows potential and then disappears. Something about that #12.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:11 PM ET
And that was the 'lowdown' on him has a prospect. Scouts said he had decent vision and hands but lacked the competitive fire to be a consistent forward. Bailey has shown flashes but seems to be one of these guys that shows potential and then disappears. Something about that #12.
- keaner17

If Strome is ready to go next year Josh is going to find himself almost out of an NHL job. If Strome's talent can translate to the NHL level we all assume he'll probably play on the 2nd line, bumping Frans to the 3rd and leaving Josh to play bottom line minutes with scrubs. This is all, of course, assuming Strome is ready to make the jump.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
If Strome is ready to go next year Josh is going to find himself almost out of an NHL job. If Strome's talent can translate to the NHL level we all assume he'll probably play on the 2nd line, bumping Frans to the 3rd and leaving Josh to play bottom line minutes with scrubs. This is all, of course, assuming Strome is ready to make the jump.
- eichiefs9



why is frans getting a pass (pun intended-- the guy hasnt made a solid pass all season!!!) --- he hasnt done poop and with significantly better line mates
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 4:44 PM ET
why is frans getting a pass (pun intended-- the guy hasnt made a solid pass all season!!!) --- he hasnt done poop and with significantly better line mates
- LetsGoIsles


Fransy is still held in high regard by the team as one of the leagues best defensive forward. Given, this has been a down year for him but I think he'll stick through next year. I wouldn't give up on Bailey yet, but I also wouldn't expect much from him. A kid like Strome will likely have a decent impact with this team fast based on his skill level. I'm also hoping Kabanov shows us somethng next year. Perhaps Bailey will benefit from their arrival and elevated skill level.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 18 @ 4:50 PM ET
Fransy is still held in high regard by the team as one of the leagues best defensive forward. Given, this has been a down year for him but I think he'll stick through next year. I wouldn't give up on Bailey yet, but I also wouldn't expect much from him. A kid like Strome will likely have a decent impact with this team fast based on his skill level. I'm also hoping Kabanov shows us somethng next year. Perhaps Bailey will benefit from their arrival and elevated skill level.
- keaner17

Where will Kabanov play? We have all these forwards, plus Ullstrom next year and Cizikas deserves a shot. Maybe Garth will finally make a trade for a defenseman??
BringBackBalky
New York Islanders
Location: Island Park, NY
Joined: 06.23.2009

Jan 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
why is frans getting a pass (pun intended-- the guy hasnt made a solid pass all season!!!) --- he hasnt done poop and with significantly better line mates
- LetsGoIsles


What exactly do you expect from Frans?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 18 @ 4:58 PM ET
What exactly do you expect from Frans?
- BringBackBalky

Frans has double the amount of points compared to Bailey. Plus hes a defensive center. I would take Nielson over Bailey anyday and I hope they re sign him.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jan 18 @ 5:03 PM ET
Frans has double the amount of points compared to Bailey. Plus hes a defensive center. I would take Nielson over Bailey anyday and I hope they re sign him.
- mighty13duck



again, frans is seeing alot more ice time with A LOT better linemates....i take bailey without thinking twice....
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 5:18 PM ET
If Strome is ready to go next year Josh is going to find himself almost out of an NHL job. If Strome's talent can translate to the NHL level we all assume he'll probably play on the 2nd line, bumping Frans to the 3rd and leaving Josh to play bottom line minutes with scrubs. This is all, of course, assuming Strome is ready to make the jump.
- eichiefs9



Strome is different type of players than Bailey. But if you think Strome going to come into NHL next year and be racking up points you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

While Strome Talents showed in rookie scrimmage where was fastest player on ice, He looked like slowest when he was playing in the NHL scrimmages in our preseason.

Josh doesnt have to remain at Centre if Strome makes it. It could very be that either Strome Or Bailey would move to wing.

Strome, Tavares, KO top line followed by Nino Bailey, Grabner Kabonov/ullstrom Nielson Petrov. IF you in business of selling players when value is the highest than Moulson, PA and Nielsen are the guys you should be looking to trade for big time DMAN, not Bailey and anyone else that is not playing to their potential.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 18 @ 5:31 PM ET
again, frans is seeing alot more ice time with A LOT better linemates....i take bailey without thinking twice....
- LetsGoIsles


I would trade Frans for the right price as well. He's an intelligent player, and he is a great PKer. And great on the shootout. On the downside, for years we've been hearing how he's going to break out offensively, but he doesn't do it, and he's not physical. Safe to say what we've seen is what we're going to get. And it's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, but people talk about him like he's irreplaceable because he can play the defensive game. As with PA, I would see what the market is for him, but would be happy to re-sign him if a good return is not there.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 18 @ 5:43 PM ET
Hindsight is 20/20. You can go thru any draft year and say we should of and could of. All i know is their would be list of teams interested in having a Bailey on their team. Its like All the teams that passed on Kopitar in 05, or all the teams that missed out on Zach Parise.

Anyone here still upset that Comeau gone?
There is big difference when guy has peaked or when guy has alot more to go. Bailey will find his grove.


When Bailey playing with guys with likes of Marian Gaborik, Richards (stepan), Roy, Vanek (Ennis) then we can talk.

- Spartiarti


(Raising hand)

XxNYIxX
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 18 @ 6:20 PM ET
Strome is different type of players than Bailey. But if you think Strome going to come into NHL next year and be racking up points you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

While Strome Talents showed in rookie scrimmage where was fastest player on ice, He looked like slowest when he was playing in the NHL scrimmages in our preseason.

Josh doesnt have to remain at Centre if Strome makes it. It could very be that either Strome Or Bailey would move to wing.

Strome, Tavares, KO top line followed by Nino Bailey, Grabner Kabonov/ullstrom Nielson Petrov. IF you in business of selling players when value is the highest than Moulson, PA and Nielsen are the guys you should be looking to trade for big time DMAN, not Bailey and anyone else that is not playing to their potential.

- Spartiarti

You must not have noticed the 5x I used the word IF in regards to Strome. So no, I'm not actually setting myself up for disappointment in any way. Nor am I basing any of my opinions based off a rookie scrimmage or some NHL preseason games. If management thinks he is ready, it will be because they think he is ready for 2nd line minutes. The style of game Strome plays fits in nowhere else on this team other than in the top 6, so if he's not ready for that...then back to juniors he should go.

Kabanov will not be starting with the Islanders next year, he will be in Bridgeport. Nobody even knows if Petrov is going to come over here next season, he's liable to get offered a big $$ KHL contract and stay, especially with the issues surrounding his sick mother (or grandmother, can't remember for sure which it was). Even if he does make it here, some time in the AHL would serve him well considering he's going to have to get used to the transition to the smaller rink.

Moulson is going nowhere, for a long time. Not unless a long-term signed Shea Weber is coming back this way.

Sure Strome or Bailey could play wing, frankly I'd rather it be Bailey because Nielsen belongs on the 3rd line and I don't feel Bailey has the game to be our 2nd center.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 18 @ 6:23 PM ET
(Raising hand)

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

6 points, -5 in 27 games and still playing his weak perimeter game with Calgary? I don't miss him in the least.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 18 @ 7:44 PM ET
Okay.........tell me about these guys who were drafted AFTE Bailey.

Karlsson, Stepan, Del Zotto, Pietrangelo, Eberle, Myers, HAMONIC (wasn't he "rushed" as well)

- BringBackBalky



I'm pretty sure he was drafted before the Isles picked
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
6 points, -5 in 27 games and still playing his weak perimeter game with Calgary? I don't miss him in the least.
- eichiefs9


I didn't say I wanted him on the team, but I'm still botherd that he was moved for nothing rather then for "something"

XxNYIxX
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:42 PM ET
I didn't say I wanted him on the team, but I'm still botherd that he was moved for nothing rather then for "something"

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Fair enough, can't argue with you on that one.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
Fair enough, can't argue with you on that one.
- eichiefs9



need to trade high. If comeau was not in the plans they should of did it last year. Only Isles players with value snow could trade are Streit, Nielsen, Moulson, and Nabby.

I personally dont thing we should trade any of them. however if i had to, Moulson if we could get a huge return in a Top 2 dman.

I think isles should stay put. Dont resign Rolston, Pandolfo, Staios, Eaton and Mottau and get 2-3 quality UFAs.


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
need to trade high. If comeau was not in the plans they should of did it last year. Only Isles players with value snow could trade are Streit, Nielsen, Moulson, and Nabby.

I personally dont thing we should trade any of them. however if i had to, Moulson if we could get a huge return in a Top 2 dman.

I think isles should stay put. Dont resign Rolston, Pandolfo, Staios, Eaton and Mottau and get 2-3 quality UFAs.

- Spartiarti

Trading Moulson would be a mistake unless he is somehow bringing us back a ridiculous defenseman, like Chara. Which I don't think anyone is willing to give up. I think we need to shop Streit hard at the deadline this year. The fact that we have him for another year allows us to shrug off any offers we don't absolutely love. If nothing of value comes along, it certainly won't kill us to have him around for another year.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 18 @ 10:50 PM ET
Trading Moulson would be a mistake unless he is somehow bringing us back a ridiculous defenseman, like Chara. Which I don't think anyone is willing to give up. I think we need to shop Streit hard at the deadline this year. The fact that we have him for another year allows us to shrug off any offers we don't absolutely love. If nothing of value comes along, it certainly won't kill us to have him around for another year.
- eichiefs9

Love the location.
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