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BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
ARE YOU KIDDING??? Schenn and Kadri and a 1st for a guy who could just walk... if he walks the leafs are SCREWED! Never would Burke make that deal. I was thinking like Gunner and monster plus a conditional 2nd if he signs... gosh what the heck trading away our franchise for a guy who could easily just leave...
- Bar-South

Not sure if trolling..or just stupid.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
I'VE BEEN TEXTING SOURCES 24/7 TRYING TO GET THE INSIDE SCOOP!!!

WE ALL KNOW ANAHEIM IS WILLING TO PART WITH SOME BIG NAMES FOR THE RIGHT PRICE, BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER HUGE NAMES FLOATING OUT THERE. MORE TO CUM!!!

- I AM NOT A TROLL!


Whew, I thought this migh tbe fake, but the Guys 'Not a Troll'.. That's enough for me... you have any names? Who's most likely to move!? Do you hjave a site called BuzzHockey???
Rimland
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jan 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
Are you saying that offer is too much or not enough?
- mfreedman


depends. i'm using Atlanta-NJD Kovy trade as a basis to figure out what would be sufficient for Parise

all-round D-man: Shenn/Aulie/Gardner
potential: Kadri
picks

for

Bona-fide Sniper: Parise
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
Not sure if trolling..or just stupid.
- BoringBob69


Regardless, do not associate him with Leafs Nation... Pleaaaase.... (frank), I know its too late
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:04 PM ET
Kassian for Parise Myers for Getzlaf

Dream lines. Vanek-Getzlaf-Pmoniville
Parise-Roy Stafford

Make it so Sabres!

- MattKenney

The oilers should try to aquire Kassian. How does Hall + a 2nd sound?

Make it so Oilers!

I AM NOT A TROLL!
Joined: 01.07.2009

Jan 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
Whew, I thought this migh tbe fake, but the Guys 'Not a Troll'.. That's enough for me... you have any names? Who's most likely to move!? Do you hjave a site called BuzzHockey???
- mfreedman


YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHO I AM!

BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
Regardless, do not associate him with Leafs Nation... Pleaaaase.... (frank), I know its too late
- mfreedman

kadri + schenn + 2nd for RNH?
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
depends. i'm using that as a basis to figure out what would be sufficient for Parise

all-round D-man: Shenn/Aulie/Gardner
potential: Kadri
picks

for

Bona-fide Sniper: Parise

- Rimland


My logic is that his as a UFA would lower his value.
His value wouldalso increase because of the number of teams vying for him.
It would also decrease because obviously NJ would resign him if they could, so if they are willing to trade him, teams must realize that they can't sign him

How much do each of these lower or raise the value? I have no clue... With that said, Komi and a 7th gets him
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
kadri + schenn + 2nd for RNH?
- BoringBob69


no way, make it a 3rd.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
I would say Schenn, Kadri, Kulemin, 2012 1st and 2013 2nd for Parise is the deal as well if the Leafs want to get it done.
- Lohaus


now you're just getting silly
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHO I AM!


- I AM NOT A TROLL!


Ek?
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
The oilers should try to aquire Kassian. How does Hall + a 2nd sound?

Make it so Oilers!


- BoringBob69

BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
no way, make it a 3rd.
- mfreedman

mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
I would say Schenn, Kadri, Kulemin, 2012 1st and 2013 2nd for Parise is the deal as well if the Leafs want to get it done.
- Lohaus


That is way too much for a UFA. Replace Kuli and the 1st with Grabo and maybe.
LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
Voynov + Bernier + roster player probably Penner (salary dump) haha for Parise


I still think LA will make a huge offer in the offseason regardless....LA shouldnt trade Bernier right now but if the offer comes up.....

EDIT: Or Justin Williams....
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:08 PM ET
A few points:

1) Kadri is a PPG player+ in the AHL. At the NHL he is playing at a 0.35% rate, not bad by any stretch of the imagination. His two way play has improved from last year, and his hands are great at the moment. If Mac and Connolly were playing at a higher level, he would have better production at the moment, unfortuantely, their games are below what they should be.

2) Schenn was the Leafs most valueable defenceman the 2nd half of last season. He was playing great hockey, and Shutdown defenceman normally begin to hit their stride at 25 years of age. He got a contract extension and is struggling slightyl, as expected. Is Myers a bust?

3) Parise is a UFA. The reason they would trade him is because they don't feel they can sign him. As such, the same risk would be taken by the Leafs. Giving up a 5th and 7th overall for someone that would walk is a huge risk, regardless of how you look at it.

- mfreedman


Look at the Dustin Penner trade. The Kings had to give up Teubert (huge potential d-man, former 13th over all pick) a 1st round pick and a second round pick. For DUSTIN PENNER! You're offering almost the same package: A d-man with potential, a first over all pick. But you're also adding Kadri who many feel is a bust. Parise is about 1,284 times better than Penner.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:08 PM ET

- BoringBob69


poop, you accepted too quickly for my liking.. .I think we're getting screwed
I AM NOT A TROLL!
Joined: 01.07.2009

Jan 16 @ 3:08 PM ET
Ek?
- mfreedman


I'M KIND OF A BIG DEAL...A HOCKEY GOD OF SORTS YOU COULD SAY. WITH ME, IT'S SIMPLY RUMORS, RUMORS, RUMORS; I ALWAYS HAVE THE LATEST INSIDE SCOOP, AND I DO SPEAK THE TRUTH!
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jan 16 @ 3:10 PM ET
That is way too much for a UFA. Replace Kuli and the 1st with Grabo and maybe.
- mfreedman

I should add an * to it in that this deal only gets done if Parise signs on. In my opinion, this deal makes the Devils pull the trigger. I don't see the Devils accepting much less, to be honest.
Rimland
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jan 16 @ 3:10 PM ET
My logic is that his as a UFA would lower his value.
His value wouldalso increase because of the number of teams vying for him.
It would also decrease because obviously NJ would resign him if they could, so if they are willing to trade him, teams must realize that they can't sign him

How much do each of these lower or raise the value? I have no clue... With that said, Komi and a 7th gets him

- mfreedman


i hear ya, i guess it all depends if:

1. Parise, indeed, does want out, and
2. NJD can get a bidding-war going.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:10 PM ET
Lou will only trade Parise to a Western Conf team...
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
Look at the Dustin Penner trade. The Kings had to give up Teubert (huge potential d-man, former 13th over all pick) a 1st round pick and a second round pick. For DUSTIN PENNER! You're offering almost the same package: A d-man with potential, a first over all pick. But you're also adding Kadri who many feel is a bust. Parise is about 1,284 times better than Penner.
- woopstash


and if only GMs had all the info at hand that HB posters do, this might have some relevance
woopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Location: "Rielly and Gardiner will be the next Keith and Seabrook."
Joined: 02.22.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
Lou will only trade Parise to a Western Conf team...
- Flyfreaky


Parise for Hall, RNH, Eberle and a first round pick.
icecubz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: T.O. aka LeafsNation
Joined: 12.02.2007

Jan 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
Burke has stated he isn't interested in getting a goalie and believes in Gus and reimer. How does halak to Toronto make any sense?
MattKenney
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jan 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
I know how stupid my trades sound. I wish the Sabres would make some kind of move. I hate the teams roll players. Gaustad, Kaleta, Ellis, McCormick.
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