The reasons you give make it amazing to me any fans are showing up to watch this team. The Owner and GM do not care why should the fans. I said it before the Isles need record low attendance. Wang is not getting the message.
- ses111

I think anyone who watched this team knows these vets aren't getting it done. So what's holding them back from doing anything about it? Is it Wang or is it snow, or is cap too stupid not to go to snow and tell him to get rid of them?

I think anyone who watched this team knows these vets aren't getting it done. So what's holding them back from doing anything about it? Is it Wang or is it snow, or is cap too stupid not to go to snow and tell him to get rid of them?
- Isles_since_6

I think Snow and Capuano are afraid to go to Wang. They both know they will not be hired anywhere else if Wang gets rid of them. I watched the Giants game yesterday and could not stop thinking why can't the Isles have owners and management like the Giants?

According to someone on IPB XM radio is reporting that an unnamed source stated Streit and PA asked for a trade before the game. This would not surprise me if true. The only thing surprising is only two asked for a trade.

According to someone on IPB XM radio is reporting that an unnamed source stated Streit and PA asked for a trade before the game. This would not surprise me if true. The only thing surprising is only two asked for a trade.
- ses111

I'm having my doubts about this report. Isles gave PA his 1st real opportunity in the NHL. I doubt he'd jump ship this quickly. Cant see Streit asking for a trade at this time either. Lets see if there is a follow up to this Rumor. I never like those un-named sources.

I'm having my doubts about this report. Isles gave PA his 1st real opportunity in the NHL. I doubt he'd jump ship this quickly. Cant see Streit asking for a trade at this time either. Lets see if there is a follow up to this Rumor. I never like those un-named sources.
- SCLI

The only thing could PA be upset about being bumped from the 1st line? Streit may just want to play for a winner as he is not getting any younger.

According to someone on IPB XM radio is reporting that an unnamed source stated Streit and PA asked for a trade before the game. This would not surprise me if true. The only thing surprising is only two asked for a trade.
- ses111

If the isles traded both of them it wouldn't be a surprise. Maybe they're tired of playing for a coach that shows no emotion and seems to accept losing. What was cap's excuse today for why they lost? Hot goalie again but we showed good effort? Useless.

The only thing could PA be upset about being bumped from the 1st line? Streit may just want to play for a winner as he is not getting any younger.
- ses111

Streit would have one hell of a nerve asking for a trade to a winner with his recent play.

Streit would have one hell of a nerve asking for a trade to a winner with his recent play.
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE

you know what was disgusting and laughable? (in particular to me lately)

was the interview scott allen did before the third period against buffalo:

"we're outchancing them 3 and a half chances to one"

are you serious? wtf is half a chance? Is this how this team is being measured and how they are determining if it's acceptable?

This team is tied for last in the east, with only 2 teams in the league below them. In year 4 of a 5 year rebuild.

In year 4 and 5 I'd expect to see them challenging for a playoff spot and improving on the year before last. This year despite having a healthier roster, they've been just as bad and have LESS depth than last year. The defense this year looks worse, despite having streit back. The goaltending has been soft very often and the forwards aren't scoring aside from one line - and that one line is led by the one leader this team has - John Tavares.

who else on this roster has shown the ability to improve each year? Who else seems to be bothered by losing? There is an incredible lack of intensity and emotion on this roster and I'm not talking about playing physical, I'm talking about effort and drive.

They have none, which means despite Tavares scoring more this season and about to improve his point totals for the third consecutive year, they haven't got any better.

You have to almost try to suck this bad. We're looking at another lottery pick again this year and we may have a 40 goal scorer and an 80+ point player this year.

If your coaches aren't showing any emotion (aside from weight) and seem to accept losing, don't you think it'll rub off on the rest of the team?

They need to get a real NHL head coach, ala Mike Keenan (an ass kicker) and then start making this team regularly go through a bag skate after every loss where they didn't play hard enough.

I'd love to coach this team, I'd be able to surf the net and watch netflix at the bench during a game without having to care whether or not we won.

According to someone on IPB XM radio is reporting that an unnamed source stated Streit and PA asked for a trade before the game. This would not surprise me if true. The only thing surprising is only two asked for a trade.
- ses111

Two guys asking for a trade on the same day....not sure I'm buying this one. If I'm an NHL captain, I don't ask for a trade. It's not showing much be way of character for whichever team you're traded to. Streit seems like a character guy to me.

you know what was disgusting and laughable? (in particular to me lately)

was the interview scott allen did before the third period against buffalo:

"we're outchancing them 3 and a half chances to one"

are you serious? wtf is half a chance? Is this how this team is being measured and how they are determining if it's acceptable?

This team is tied for last in the east, with only 2 teams in the league below them. In year 4 of a 5 year rebuild.

In year 4 and 5 I'd expect to see them challenging for a playoff spot and improving on the year before last. This year despite having a healthier roster, they've been just as bad and have LESS depth than last year. The defense this year looks worse, despite having streit back. The goaltending has been soft very often and the forwards aren't scoring aside from one line - and that one line is led by the one leader this team has - John Tavares.

who else on this roster has shown the ability to improve each year? Who else seems to be bothered by losing? There is an incredible lack of intensity and emotion on this roster and I'm not talking about playing physical, I'm talking about effort and drive.

They have none, which means despite Tavares scoring more this season and about to improve his point totals for the third consecutive year, they haven't got any better.

You have to almost try to suck this bad. We're looking at another lottery pick again this year and we may have a 40 goal scorer and an 80+ point player this year.

If your coaches aren't showing any emotion (aside from weight) and seem to accept losing, don't you think it'll rub off on the rest of the team?

They need to get a real NHL head coach, ala Mike Keenan (an ass kicker) and then start making this team regularly go through a bag skate after every loss where they didn't play hard enough.

I'd love to coach this team, I'd be able to surf the net and watch netflix at the bench during a game without having to care whether or not we won.
- Isles_since_6

I feel every bit of your pain, and agree with 99% of what you wrote. The unfortunate truth though for me is that this "rebuild" gets set back another year with every arena setback we've come up against. This is year 4 of a rebuild that doesn't have a target end date. Here comes the broken record, but until the arena situation is squared away, this rebuild is on hiatus. The young talent needed to take us to the next level is there, the veterans are not. The veterans will not be here until the arena situation is set. Everything is low budget, from the coach to the GM to the veterans. None of that will change unless the future of the franchise is sealed.

you know what was disgusting and laughable? (in particular to me lately)

was the interview scott allen did before the third period against buffalo:

"we're outchancing them 3 and a half chances to one"

are you serious? wtf is half a chance? Is this how this team is being measured and how they are determining if it's acceptable?

This team is tied for last in the east, with only 2 teams in the league below them. In year 4 of a 5 year rebuild.

In year 4 and 5 I'd expect to see them challenging for a playoff spot and improving on the year before last. This year despite having a healthier roster, they've been just as bad and have LESS depth than last year. The defense this year looks worse, despite having streit back. The goaltending has been soft very often and the forwards aren't scoring aside from one line - and that one line is led by the one leader this team has - John Tavares.

who else on this roster has shown the ability to improve each year? Who else seems to be bothered by losing? There is an incredible lack of intensity and emotion on this roster and I'm not talking about playing physical, I'm talking about effort and drive.

They have none, which means despite Tavares scoring more this season and about to improve his point totals for the third consecutive year, they haven't got any better.

You have to almost try to suck this bad. We're looking at another lottery pick again this year and we may have a 40 goal scorer and an 80+ point player this year.

If your coaches aren't showing any emotion (aside from weight) and seem to accept losing, don't you think it'll rub off on the rest of the team?

They need to get a real NHL head coach, ala Mike Keenan (an ass kicker) and then start making this team regularly go through a bag skate after every loss where they didn't play hard enough.

I'd love to coach this team, I'd be able to surf the net and watch netflix at the bench during a game without having to care whether or not we won.
- Isles_since_6

This pretty much sums it up. Losing is tolerated on this team from top to bottom. The players and coaches do not have the passion. Today really feels like the start of another slide.

I feel every bit of your pain, and agree with 99% of what you wrote. The unfortunate truth though for me is that this "rebuild" gets set back another year with every arena setback we've come up against. This is year 4 of a rebuild that doesn't have a target end date. Here comes the broken record, but until the arena situation is squared away, this rebuild is on hiatus. The young talent needed to take us to the next level is there, the veterans are not. The veterans will not be here until the arena situation is set. Everything is low budget, from the coach to the GM to the veterans. None of that will change unless the future of the franchise is sealed.
- Charlie21

Catch 22. No on Ice results until we get an arena and no Arena until we get on ice results.

I am convince that if the Isles had been competitive over the past 4 or 5 yrs. Ground would have been broken on a new Arena somewhere on LI. Most likely in the same place we are now.

I feel every bit of your pain, and agree with 99% of what you wrote. The unfortunate truth though for me is that this "rebuild" gets set back another year with every arena setback we've come up against. This is year 4 of a rebuild that doesn't have a target end date. Here comes the broken record, but until the arena situation is squared away, this rebuild is on hiatus. The young talent needed to take us to the next level is there, the veterans are not. The veterans will not be here until the arena situation is set. Everything is low budget, from the coach to the GM to the veterans. None of that will change unless the future of the franchise is sealed.
- Charlie21

I realize that the arena is a situation they can't help at the moment, but they did offer Ehrhoff over 5 mil a season which means there WAS money they would spend. If that's the case, why is it that during a season when they did have an opportunity to save the year, they did absolutely nothing?

If what they've been saying is accurate, that they will spend the money when it makes sense, then why sit on your hands when the opportunity to improve the team is there?

Unless they're willing to make a deal to bring in someone who has gas left in the tank and can contribute, why would any ufa's sign with them? Put up or shut up, and it's been time for a while now.

just like the hawks went out and signed campbell and hossa, the Isles need to be willing to overpay a ufa that can contribute before they'll be able to take the next step. The biggest problem now is that there are not many decent ufa's making it to the open market, and when they do, there's a lot more teams looking to sign them and the Isles are immediately bottom of the list.

The only saving grace for this team right now is that the teams that overspent (columbus on wisniewski, buffalo on ehrhoff) certainly don't look like they're better off for doing so.

I'd really like to see the Isles make a big trade and pick up a legitimate player or two, at least end the year trying to make an improvement instead of just riding it out, drafting another kid and signing another washout or three in the offseason.

Streit would have one hell of a nerve asking for a trade to a winner with his recent play.
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE

Good point.

I still think we should be shopping him though. Who knows what the price is for a Veteran Offensive minded defenseman right now. When the shoe is on the other foot. (when we are shopping for a top 4 "D" man) We are constantly be told that the Price is way to high. So lets at least see what teams are willing to part with for a Veteran like Mark Streit. Maybe we can be on the winning end of a fleece for once. There are a few PO bound teams that could use a vet "D" man. Philly and Washington for example.

I realize that the arena is a situation they can't help at the moment, but they did offer Ehrhoff over 5 mil a season which means there WAS money they would spend. If that's the case, why is it that during a season when they did have an opportunity to save the year, they did absolutely nothing?

If what they've been saying is accurate, that they will spend the money when it makes sense, then why sit on your hands when the opportunity to improve the team is there?

Unless they're willing to make a deal to bring in someone who has gas left in the tank and can contribute, why would any ufa's sign with them? Put up or shut up, and it's been time for a while now.

just like the hawks went out and signed campbell and hossa, the Isles need to be willing to overpay a ufa that can contribute before they'll be able to take the next step. The biggest problem now is that there are not many decent ufa's making it to the open market, and when they do, there's a lot more teams looking to sign them and the Isles are immediately bottom of the list.

The only saving grace for this team right now is that the teams that overspent (columbus on wisniewski, buffalo on ehrhoff) certainly don't look like they're better off for doing so.

I'd really like to see the Isles make a big trade and pick up a legitimate player or two, at least end the year trying to make an improvement instead of just riding it out, drafting another kid and signing another washout or three in the offseason.
- Isles_since_6

There's money to spend alright, our owner is a billionaire. You drove home my point by bringing up the Ehrhoff situation. You can't even get players here by offering them more money than other teams. That's the point. With the uncertaintly with the franchise, no veteran players, coach or GM is going to want to come here. Nobody wants to uproot their families to come to a place that very well could be gone by 2015....I know I wouldn't if I had other options. The players that have no other options are the Rolstons, Staios' and Pandawfuls. That's the caliber veteran youre' gonna get here unless you trade. And if you trade for one, it's gonna take getting rid of some talent and you run the risk of getting a veteran that doesn't want to be here. Catch 22's everywhere!

Good point.

I still think we should be shopping him though. Who knows what the price is for a Veteran Offensive minded defenseman right now. When the shoe is on the other foot. (when we are shopping for a top 4 "D" man) We are constantly be told that the Price is way to high. So lets at least see what teams are willing to part with for a Veteran like Mark Streit. Maybe we can be on the winning end of a fleece for once. There are a few PO bound teams that could use a vet "D" man. Philly and Washington for example.
- SCLI

I hope they shop him as much as possible. I've never been enchanted by Streit's play. Never thought he was all that he is cracked up to be.

I realize that the arena is a situation they can't help at the moment, but they did offer Ehrhoff over 5 mil a season which means there WAS money they would spend. If that's the case, why is it that during a season when they did have an opportunity to save the year, they did absolutely nothing?

If what they've been saying is accurate, that they will spend the money when it makes sense, then why sit on your hands when the opportunity to improve the team is there?

Unless they're willing to make a deal to bring in someone who has gas left in the tank and can contribute, why would any ufa's sign with them? Put up or shut up, and it's been time for a while now.

just like the hawks went out and signed campbell and hossa, the Isles need to be willing to overpay a ufa that can contribute before they'll be able to take the next step. The biggest problem now is that there are not many decent ufa's making it to the open market, and when they do, there's a lot more teams looking to sign them and the Isles are immediately bottom of the list.

The only saving grace for this team right now is that the teams that overspent (columbus on wisniewski, buffalo on ehrhoff) certainly don't look like they're better off for doing so.

I'd really like to see the Isles make a big trade and pick up a legitimate player or two, at least end the year trying to make an improvement instead of just riding it out, drafting another kid and signing another washout or three in the offseason.
- Isles_since_6

Preds have shown a low payroll team can still be good. Unless the Isles are willing to move some picks and prospects the team will be no better next year. Wang gets a pass on not having a big payroll but he does not get a pass for not having a better GM and coach or for not demanding a better team.

I hope they shop him as much as possible. I've never been enchanted by Streit's play. Never thought he was all that he is cracked up to be.
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE

No reason to keep Streit. Move him this year while you can.

There's money to spend alright, our owner is a billionaire. You drove home my point by bringing up the Ehrhoff situation. You can't even get players here by offering them more money than other teams. That's the point. With the uncertaintly with the franchise, no veteran players, coach or GM is going to want to come here. Nobody wants to uproot their families to come to a place that very well could be gone by 2015....I know I wouldn't if I had other options. The players that have no other options are the Rolstons, Staios' and Pandawfuls. That's the caliber veteran youre' gonna get here unless you trade. And if you trade for one, it's gonna take getting rid of some talent and you run the risk of getting a veteran that doesn't want to be here. Catch 22's everywhere!
- Charlie21

Wonder if Ehrhoff would have signed if Neil Smith was still the GM? That whole fiasco just killed this team and keeps killing us. The hockey world still thinks about that when they think Islanders.

No reason to keep Streit. Move him this year while you can.
- ses111

There is a lot to be said about keeping a player a year to long! Wasnt that one if our biggest down falls after winning all those cups? Hanging onto guys a little to long?

It's been reported that John Erskin is in Hunters dog house. He's been a healthy scratch recently. He's had a pretty decent career since leaving the Isles and playing for the Caps. Got the size and grit we are lacking on the back line. Hes an up grade to most of our guys. I wonder what it would cost. I think he's signed for 2 more yrs.

No I'm not saying Streit for Erskin.

There is a lot to be said about keeping a player a year to long! Wasnt that one if our biggest down falls after winning all those cups? Hanging onto guys a little to long?

It's been reported that John Erskin is in Hunters dog house. He's been a healthy scratch recently. He's had a pretty decent career since leaving the Isles and playing for the Caps. Got the size and grit we are lacking on the back line. Hes an up grade to most of our guys. I wonder what it would cost. I think he's signed for 2 more yrs.

No I'm not saying Streit for Erskin.
- SCLI

It was our downfall. Hurt the team for a long time. The time to move Streit is now. Isles need to start planning for next year now. This year is over.

Wonder if Ehrhoff would have signed if Neil Smith was still the GM? That whole fiasco just killed this team and keeps killing us. The hockey world still thinks about that when they think Islanders.
- ses111

The hiring of Neil smith was a proud moment as an islanders fan...since the firing we have been a laughing stock. very sad!

Poulin Has be returned to Bridgeport.

The hiring of Neil smith was a proud moment as an islanders fan...since the firing we have been a laughing stock. very sad!
- isles4more

That hire got us respect after the Milbury nightmare years and Wang destroyed it.

Always liked John Erskin and we could use his size back there. When will they stop letting guys go because they want to go to a winner. Snow, build a GD winner here. Stop hiding your phone in the drawer. Get rid of Cappy....I mean Poulin likely want to go to a winner already what he did to him. he has no clue..really doesn't.. most players look at the type of coach a team has, if we bring in a coach players want to play for and is respected that will attract other players. Then you trade for the other guys you need. If streit has to go then get something for him.98% of the other GMs could pull that off ..in other words Garth do your friggin job...enough is enough