madmike71
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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So, announcers at Rangers game say Lecalvier was so pissed at Geno for a "low brige". Waaaaaat? He ducked to avoid and check and that is considered dirty? Am I missing something here? It's Milberry so I know it's suspect but WTF is a "low bridge"? Never heard it before. - powerhouse
I saw the same thing... Laughable! So apparently ducking to avoid a check is low-bridging a player? The check was along the boards, Vinny caught mostly glass. I think he was pissed Geno made him miss....
Dumb commentary from Mildouche..... |
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kgrpitt
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Location: PA Joined: 09.08.2010
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Yeah Lecavalier accused Malkin of going after his knees. Which is utter bullpoop. Lecavalier is just pissed that Malkin can take over a game like he did and Lecavalier is basically the highest paid thirdliner in the league.
Also I am tied with Gunner. I am crawling out of the basement. - Ben37
That is one of the dumbest things I have heard in a while.
I am just hoping to hold onto a playoff spot.
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Gunner Staal
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Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY Joined: 04.19.2007
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So, announcers at Rangers game say Lecalvier was so pissed at Geno for a "low brige". Waaaaaat? He ducked to avoid and check and that is considered dirty? Am I missing something here? It's Milberry so I know it's suspect but WTF is a "low bridge"? Never heard it before. - powerhouse
An actual low bridge move is the stunt Marchand pulled the other game against Vancouver.
What Malkin did today isn't even in the same stratosphere. |
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madmike71
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Why couldn't the Rags play this poorly against the Pens? Talking about mailing one in. I'm sure Torts will leave a trail of tears to the airport. |
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Ben37
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Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB Joined: 04.07.2010
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Shameless is a fantastic show. I downloaded the first season and am attempting to marathon through it while doing school at the same time. |
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Lecavalier embarrassed himself. If anything was wrong with that play it was him sucker punching Malkin a while after the scrum was broken up |
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Ben37
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Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB Joined: 04.07.2010
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Lecavalier embarrassed himself. If anything was wrong with that play it was him sucker punching Malkin a while after the scrum was broken up - Deadstar
Lucic got a $2500 fine for a similar punch to Freddie Meyer last season. I wonder if the league is going to look at it. |
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s0rcerer1984
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Location: United States, VA Joined: 07.03.2008
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I know we are on a two game win streak but.... would you do tangradi + for hemsky?? just wondering bc someone said it in the edm thread and it wasnt me - nh4442
No way.
First, Hemsky has 15pts in 30 gms this year. So aside from missing about 1/3 of the Oilers games, he also hasn't done all that much when he's been in the lineup. Not much value there in my eyes.
Second, if the Pens are going to ship out a 22yr-old power forward prospect + , I expect whatever is coming back to be part of the organization for at least 3-4yrs given the current state of the team. Sure, if the Pens are poised to make a run at the Cup I'd be all up for a Hossa-type deal to put them over the top, but the Pens aren't in that position at the moment and Hemsky isn't even close to that type of player.
Third, I really think the Pens need to add size to the lineup, not actively look to get smaller. Tangradi may not be putting up pts, but I think losing Rupp & Talbot for Sullivan & Vitale hurt the Pens ability to play a physical game. Staal being out doesn't help in this area either.
Fourth, I'm one of the bigger believers in Tangradi so many people may not agree with this last argument, but power-forwards like Tangradi take longer to develop. He's only 22yrs old and and will be a RFA at the end of this year. I see no need to rush him into the NHL or out of town. I'd prefer for Shero to either let him develop slowly or to move him for the right deal rather than pull the trigger on one for a over-valued Hemsky.
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s0rcerer1984
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Location: United States, VA Joined: 07.03.2008
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Gunner and john you 2 should collaborate and come up with a blog for pens needs and all possible targets for trade deadlines also a prospect update. I'd help but I'm to lazy. I'll just comment on how terrible the list is and how much I disagree
and can we please get Neal or kunitz off Genos line so tangradi can get up there. He might have gotten 6 pts and tied for the league lead - dbell646
Shane Doan! That's who I want the Pens to go after at the deadline, assuming the Coyotes are willing to move him and the Pens look like they are going to make a run at the Cup (ie, Staal, Letang, & Crosby are back playing by that point). |
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Ben37
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Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB Joined: 04.07.2010
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First, Hemsky has 15pts in 30 gms this year. So aside from missing about 1/3 of the Oilers games, he also hasn't done all that much when he's been in the lineup. Not much value there in my eyes.
- s0rcerer1984
He wants out of Edmonton in a bad way, so he's been awfully disinterested. Also he has been rotated to play with every other winger and center that the Oilers have.
Still his skill level is Malkin-esque. |
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Gunner Staal
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Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY Joined: 04.19.2007
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He wants out of Edmonton in a bad way, so he's been awfully disinterested. Also he has been rotated to play with every other winger and center that the Oilers have.
Still his skill level is Malkin-esque. - Ben37
His hands are insanely good. |
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nh4442
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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He wants out of Edmonton in a bad way, so he's been awfully disinterested. Also he has been rotated to play with every other winger and center that the Oilers have.
Still his skill level is Malkin-esque. - Ben37
i like tangradi too but i like heemmer better |
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s0rcerer1984
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Location: United States, VA Joined: 07.03.2008
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He wants out of Edmonton in a bad way, so he's been awfully disinterested. Also he has been rotated to play with every other winger and center that the Oilers have.
Still his skill level is Malkin-esque. - Ben37
See, that is the exact reason I don't want a player like Hemsky and I do want a player like Shane Doan.
If we're looking for a highly-skilled, but lazy/soft player why not just make a push for Alexander Semin? He's just as lazy and even more skilled!!! |
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Gunner Staal
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Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY Joined: 04.19.2007
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See, that is the exact reason I don't want a player like Hemsky and I do want a player like Shane Doan.
If we're looking for a highly-skilled, but lazy/soft player why not just make a push for Alexander Semin? He's just as lazy and even more skilled!!! - s0rcerer1984
I'm not so sure Semin is more skilled than Hemsky. Hemsky just never shoots. |
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kgrpitt
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Location: PA Joined: 09.08.2010
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i like tangradi too but i like heemmer better - nh4442
How dare you say that here. Disgrace. haha
Hemsky does have some slick moves but a few games that I have seen this year it seem like he may be Russian but his unenthusiastic play! As Ben said it this could be just him not wanting to play in an Oilers sweater anymore. |
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Emperor Filonius
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Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice. Joined: 01.18.2007
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See, that is the exact reason I don't want a player like Hemsky and I do want a player like Shane Doan.
If we're looking for a highly-skilled, but lazy/soft player why not just make a push for Alexander Semin? He's just as lazy and even more skilled!!! - s0rcerer1984
Michel Therrien says Ales Hemsky is "sof" |
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s0rcerer1984
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Location: United States, VA Joined: 07.03.2008
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I'm not so sure Semin is more skilled than Hemsky. Hemsky just never shoots. - Gunner Staal
The statement was meant to be sarcastic. Not sure if it came across.
My point is that if a player is highly skilled, but lazy on his current team there really isn't a lot of logic in assuming that he'll suddenly change over night by putting on a different jersey.
Whenever a team is desperately trying to move a player without much success, I always find it helpful to ask myself "If they don't want him, why would should we?" |
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Gunner Staal
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Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY Joined: 04.19.2007
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The statement was meant to be sarcastic. Not sure if it came across.
My point is that if a player is highly skilled, but lazy on his current team there really isn't a lot of logic in assuming that he'll suddenly change over night by putting on a different jersey.
Whenever a team is desperately trying to move a player without much success, I always find it helpful to ask myself "If they don't want him, why would should we?" - s0rcerer1984
Went over my head, fatigue playing a factor. |
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nh4442
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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The statement was meant to be sarcastic. Not sure if it came across.
My point is that if a player is highly skilled, but lazy on his current team there really isn't a lot of logic in assuming that he'll suddenly change over night by putting on a different jersey.
Whenever a team is desperately trying to move a player without much success, I always find it helpful to ask myself "If they don't want him, why would should we?" - s0rcerer1984
they are always asking way to much for him, if shero gets him it will be good deal...
im still saying he goes for a 2nd and a nhl ready D.. nothing more...
we will see |
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Gunner Staal
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Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY Joined: 04.19.2007
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He wants out of Edmonton in a bad way, so he's been awfully disinterested. Also he has been rotated to play with every other winger and center that the Oilers have.
Still his skill level is Malkin-esque. - Ben37
Getzlaf is gonna be the difference. |
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He wants out of Edmonton in a bad way, so he's been awfully disinterested. Also he has been rotated to play with every other winger and center that the Oilers have.
Still his skill level is Malkin-esque. - Ben37
Yes, his skill level is very high. His fragility is that of a cracked Waterford Crystal vase. He has two bad things going against him - bad attitude (sorry, playing disinterested in hopes you get dealt is a bad attitude IMO) and he is very very very soft ... caveat emptor. |
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s0rcerer1984
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Location: United States, VA Joined: 07.03.2008
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they are always asking way to much for him, if shero gets him it will be good deal...
im still saying he goes for a 2nd and a nhl ready D.. nothing more...
we will see - nh4442
Even at that price, I'm not sure I would want Hemsky. 2nd round picks can be valuable over the long-haul (ie, 3-4yrs down the road). And i just don't think he's capable of playing the Penguins aggressive-forechecking system at all.
Still, we do have a over-load of NHL-ready Dmen in WBS. If the price was a 3rd + Strait or Bortuzzo, I might consider it given that Morrow, Harrington, and Despres would all still be in the system. |
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they are always asking way to much for him, if shero gets him it will be good deal...
im still saying he goes for a 2nd and a nhl ready D.. nothing more...
we will see - nh4442
pass ... especially if NHL ready Dman is named Despres. Someone is going to overpay for him. I hope to God its not Shero. He hasn't done that yet. I just shake my head at how much that bum Kaberle got for Toronto. |
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Ben37
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Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB Joined: 04.07.2010
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Yes, his skill level is very high. His fragility is that of a cracked Waterford Crystal vase. He has two bad things going against him - bad attitude (sorry, playing disinterested in hopes you get dealt is a bad attitude IMO) and he is very very very soft ... caveat emptor. - Oneonta Penguin
I honesty feel that part of the reason he is so fragile is that the Oilers for years have lacked toughness to defend him. Robyn Rehger could have his way with Hemsky and their was no answer. One thing the Penguins do well is they defend their talent. When Hemsky shredded his shoulder on a hit from behind by Michael Handzus that when it occurred the Oilers just stood their and watched. If someone runs Crosby or Malkin or the Reverend Lovejoy from behind the Penguins answer right away. It doesn't prevent the initial hit, but it does prevent incidents in following games which can prevent injuries.
I'm not a huge supporter of Hemsky, but I believe that if he had that change of scenery and was put into a place where he didn't have the expectations of being the main offensive force he would thrive.
I'd be happier if the Penguins tried to get him as a UFA instead of through a trade though. |
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kgrpitt
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Location: PA Joined: 09.08.2010
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Everyone have already written the ducks off this year. Remember the Devils last year making the run and just narrowly missing the playoffs? I think the Ducks could pull that off! |
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