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Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
The Rangers have paid 13M to Redden to play in the AHL for the last two years. And they still owe him 10M more. The Flyers total is a drop in the bucket.
- MJL


one bad mistake no doubt by the Rangers and Avery makes 2.

3 mistakes by the Flyers, not the same money but the Flyers missed on 3 and Shelley would make 4.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
that's 4 misses though.

I have no clue but does any team have 3 NHL contracts in the minors and maybe a 4th if they need cap space?

I know the Rangers have 2 for sure

- Buts16


I'm sure that Holmgren told Snider at the time that the deal for Walker could end up being buried, and I'm sure that Snider recognizes the cuircumstances with the others.

And if he had an issue with it, I'm sure he'd say so. And his "indulgence" of them, probably enabled Holmgren to make the moves.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:44 PM ET
that's 4 misses though.

I have no clue but does any team have 3 NHL contracts in the minors and maybe a 4th if they need cap space?

I know the Rangers have 2 for sure

- Buts16


Thats the thing. Shelleys contract doesnt hurt your cap if you need to add someone but it still is a bad signing to sign an enforcer at that cap hit. The Flyers still have to pay him. We could have alot of cap space if we moved any player down that doesnt have a NMC. By sending a player down (to me) seems like your admitting to a mistake you made.

I dont think the way im describing it is coming out right, but im too lazy to keep writing about it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
Thats the thing. Shelleys contract doesnt hurt your cap if you need to add someone but it still is a bad signing to sign an enforcer at that cap hit. The Flyers still have to pay him. We could have alot of cap space if we moved any player down that doesnt have a NMC. By sending a player down (to me) seems like your admitting to a mistake you made.
- stveshdy


Admitting a mistake is the first step to correcting it. Rather have a GM who can say, yeah, I (frank)ed up, let's fix it, than one who refuses to face the facts.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
Admitting a mistake is the first step to correcting it. Rather have a GM who can say, yeah, I (frank)ed up, let's fix it, than one who refuses to face the facts.
- Jsaquella


Oh I agree. I really cant explain my "purpose" through the internet. So the way its being typed and being perceived is different then my actual thought process. I know sounds crazy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
Admitting a mistake is the first step to correcting it. Rather have a GM who can say, yeah, I (frank)ed up, let's fix it, than one who refuses to face the facts.
- Jsaquella



Honestly, who cares that a GM admits a mistake and sends a player down to the AHL? I care about who is on the Flyers. The contract spot is an issue. But the money and the Cap hit is a total non issue.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
Don't get me wrong Homer and company have made a ton of good trades/signings and deserve props.

I just hate some of the moves and some are glaringly bad.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
Oh I agree. I really cant explain my "purpose" through the internet. So the way its being typed and being perceived is different then my actual thought process. I know sounds crazy.
- stveshdy


It can be hard to fully state a full opinion on a board, especially on a difficult topic...I do get what you are saying, though.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
It can be hard to fully state a full opinion on a board, especially on a difficult topic...I do get what you are saying, though.
- Jsaquella


I do see both sides on the signing. While it doesnt really effect the cap space bc he can be moved, it still ties up a contract. I just dont think by saying "hey we can send him down to clear space " sounds like a positive signing. Not saying that is your opinion though.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
any concern on Bryz not being at the morning skate? Or is that an inaccurate tweet?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
Don't get me wrong Homer and company have made a ton of good trades/signings and deserve props.

I just hate some of the moves and some are glaringly bad.

- Buts16

What's the bad move of the day? The sky isn't falling in Flyerdom because we signed Shelley a year and half ago to 1.1M. Then whether or not Bryzgalov was a bad signing has yet to be seen. The fact that we have a number of rookies taking on huge roles for this team and still contending tells me all I need to know about the Management and Coaching Staff of the Philadelphia Flyers. If we can get away from overpaying, I'm sure that would help but Homer has put together some fantastic contracts as well (Giroux's deal right now and Coburn's first deal with the Flyers).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
$6.55mm of cap space-in full year hits.

That's about $2mm north of what the Flyers can take on.

- Jsaquella


JVR to LTIR and Shelley to lead a search for Sasquatches in the Adirondacks.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
any concern on Bryz not being at the morning skate? Or is that an inaccurate tweet?
- JoeRussomanno


Not sure. He is starting tonight. If he didnt show why would he be playing?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
JVR to LTIR and Shelley to lead a search for Sasquatches in the Adirondacks.
- PLindbergh31

Thought they found the sasquatch... isn't he playing for the phantoms?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
This Chicago and Detroit game is unbelieveable.
- stveshdy


Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Tie Game, Hawks.

EDIT

Best defenseman in the world deflects it into his own net.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Don't get me wrong Homer and company have made a ton of good trades/signings and deserve props.

I just hate some of the moves and some are glaringly bad.

- Buts16


In the big picture, the really aren't glaringly bad. Be thankful that the team you root for has the financial backing to fix those mistakes. A lot of teams have to live with those mistakes on the Cap on the NHL roster. You want a glaringly bad mistake? trading for Gomez by the Habs and having to keep him on the roster. How'd you like to have that Cap anchor? That's a glaringly bad mistake. The Flyers mistakes are petty.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Chicago ties it with 61 seconds left.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
any concern on Bryz not being at the morning skate? Or is that an inaccurate tweet?
- JoeRussomanno


I'm sure even the Flyers band of Clueless media guys are capable of counting how many goalies are on the ice. Or, am I giving them too much credit?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
What's the bad move of the day? The sky isn't falling is Flyerdom because we signed Shelley a year and half ago to 1.1M. Then whether or not Bryzgalov was a bed signing has yet to be seen. The fact that we have a number of rookies taking on huge roles for this team and still contending tells me all I need to know about the Management and Coaching Staff of the Philadelphia Flyers. If we can get away from overpaying, I'm sure that would help but Homer has put together some fantastic contracts as well (Giroux's deal right now and Coburn's first deal with the Flyers).
- Schenn2shine



rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
Chicago ties it with 61 seconds left.
- MBFlyerfan


Lidstrom.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
Oh look the great howard gets a puck deflected by his own guy!

That's it he sucks! Send him to the moon with Bryzgalov!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
I'm sure even the Flyers band of Clueless media guys are capable of counting how many goalies are on the ice. Or, am I giving them too much credit?
- PLindbergh31

Hence the second half of my post.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
Tie Game, Hawks.

EDIT

Best defenseman in the world deflects it into his own net.

- Schenn2shine


Lolja isn't with the Wings anymore.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
Hawks lucky to get a point (or more) out of this one though. 2 flukey goals. But they all count I guess.
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