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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:12 PM ET
Poor Plek at practice today

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Gomez-Plekanec-Blunden
Kostitsyn-Eller-Moen
Darche-Nokelainen-(joueur en alternance)

Gorges-Subban
Campoli-Weber
Kaberle-Emelin
Gill

- Symba007



my favorite part!!!
JDJ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "…it's no 'Free Agent Frenzy
Joined: 07.25.2007

Jan 13 @ 1:12 PM ET
Only reason Gomez isn't already gone is that they are hoping for a clause in the new CBA that will allow them to buy-out penalty free. If he manages to pick it up in the next couple of months, then they might try to get him gone through re-entry, but even that would cost too much against the cap imo.
- kev1586


I am not sure, but I believe there are only certain points in the year you can buy out a player (or under specific conditions). If the Habs wanted to buy out Gomez, they would have to wait for that window. I do not believe you can buy out players whenever you want.

I wonder if there will be an amnesty on buying out contracts this time around. Will be interesting to see... good point.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
love how Melnick is pleading with the world to understand this trade as well as he does.

apparently he's the only one who doesn't completely hate it.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
Poor Plek at practice today

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Gomez-Plekanec-Bourque
Kostitsyn-Eller-Moen
Darche-Nokelainen-Blunden

Gorges-Subban
Campoli-Weber
Kaberle-Emelin
Gill

- Symba007


Does this look better? I'm just asking because this would seem the most probable lineup on Sunday...
JDJ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "…it's no 'Free Agent Frenzy
Joined: 07.25.2007

Jan 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
Poor Plek at practice today

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Gomez-Plekanec-Blunden
Kostitsyn-Eller-Moen
Darche-Nokelainen-(joueur en alternance)

Gorges-Subban
Campoli-Weber
Kaberle-Emelin
Gill

- Symba007


Is Pleks ever gonna get some decent wingers?

FFS, I am starting to think the Habs management teams hate him.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
Does this look better? I'm just asking because this would seem the most probable lineup on Sunday...
- kev1586

when's Bourque's suspension done?
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jan 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
what?
- dt99999

interesting...

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...kmePNyXU18VZ_BPWHKp97vLYF

edit: I fully expect someone to reply with "no" but feel free to do it.

- dt99999

I have two thoughts after reading this. I would defiently trade Markov for Crosby and they obviously need to bring Recchi in for a consult.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
I am not sure, but I believe there are only certain points in the year you can buy out a player (or under specific conditions). If the Habs wanted to buy out Gomez, they would have to wait for that window. I do not believe you can buy out players whenever you want.

I wonder if there will be an amnesty on buying out contracts this time around. Will be interesting to see... good point.

- JDJ



I doubt it. the last time around it was becasue they were going from no ca to a cap and teams had to find ways to fit in.

Not so sure this time.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
I have two thoughts after reading this. I would defiently trade Markov for Crosby and they obviously need to bring Recchi in for a consult.
- habby

Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
Congratulations EE for your best piece yet. It is precise and to the point. You did not pull any punches, you called it like it is. You asked the $10 million question that only Geoff (I'm clueless) Molson can answer.

How many more moves will he be permitted to make? Probably more cause Molson is clueless!
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
I am not sure, but I believe there are only certain points in the year you can buy out a player (or under specific conditions). If the Habs wanted to buy out Gomez, they would have to wait for that window. I do not believe you can buy out players whenever you want.

I wonder if there will be an amnesty on buying out contracts this time around. Will be interesting to see... good point.

- JDJ


Thank you, and yes, I did say they are HOPING. If I were the players, I'd say HELL NO to that happening. The players will already be getting screwed in terms of their percentages going down, the owners will have to give in somewhere.
Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Newly appointed ambassador of the Nordiques thread
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jan 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
Sooo...


Who's the whinniest female dog on this site regarding this trade?

(apart from EE, that is)
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jan 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
Is Pleks ever gonna get some decent wingers?

FFS, I am starting to think the Habs management teams hate him.

- JDJ

Cammaleri? Bourque?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
when's Bourque's suspension done?
- BingoLady


next year


GAUTHIER GOT SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
Agreed.

But if the Habs do not ship out guys with expiring contracts like Moen, Gill, Campoli, etc... for picks, then I am not sure this trade even matters, as the Habs will be rolling in the same poop again next year, just delaying the inevitable another year.

The only thing the Cammy trade really gives the Habs is the ability to buy out Gomez, and have the buyout + Bourque's salary about equal to Cammy's total cap hit, and hence, have no real impact to the cap from a status quo perspective..

Not the best way to use/manage cap, but a way to make it palatable to manage a Gomez buy out.

If there is something to cheer about it might just be that.

- JDJ


That may happen but with the new CBA coming - I believe we will see an Amnesty clause ala the NBA - so we get rid of Gomez without effecting our cap
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
when's Bourque's suspension done?
- BingoLady


My understanding is that he can't play Saturday against Ottawa and then he's good to go.
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
Is Pleks ever gonna get some decent wingers?

FFS, I am starting to think the Habs management teams hate him.

- JDJ


He is the next one out...
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET

- dt99999

*feels better*
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
Congratulations EE for your best piece yet. It is precise and to the point. You did not pull any punches, you called it like it is. You asked the $10 million question that only Geoff (I'm clueless) Molson can answer.

How many more moves will he be permitted to make? Probably more cause Molson is clueless!

- Champ



good point. first time this comes up.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
next year


GAUTHIER GOT SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


- dt99999



what?! That would be the best news yet!!
JDJ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "…it's no 'Free Agent Frenzy
Joined: 07.25.2007

Jan 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
Does this look better? I'm just asking because this would seem the most probable lineup on Sunday...
- kev1586


1 of Darche, Blunden, or Noke will likely sit regularly, Habs will go with 7D for the rest of the year - at least until they can trade a few of them.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 13 @ 1:16 PM ET
good point. first time this comes up.
- dt99999

Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Newly appointed ambassador of the Nordiques thread
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jan 13 @ 1:17 PM ET
good point. first time this comes up.
- dt99999

JDJ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: "…it's no 'Free Agent Frenzy
Joined: 07.25.2007

Jan 13 @ 1:17 PM ET
He is the next one out...
- Rtt19



That would be a huge mistake... especially given there are so many others that need to go first.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jan 13 @ 1:17 PM ET
He is the next one out...
- Rtt19


If Plekanec is traded and we're not getting at least a first rounder back, the media will destroy PG. If ever this were to occur, it would have to be at the deadline if ever the Habs were so far out that they couldn't even dream of pulling a New Jersey.
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