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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 13 @ 10:14 AM ET
or Calgary's system provides better numbers for offensive players.
- yemrots

yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:14 AM ET
M'eh, look at Luc Robitaille outside of LA, some guys just do better elsewhere. No reason he shouldn't have produced in Pitt.

I think Tanguay was too mentally soft for Mtl, and Cammi wasn't as bad here as he's being made out to be. Even if the trade was necessary.

- habby

Not saying that Cammy was bad. Just that his numbers in Calgary are a lot higher than they were in Montreal. I think the system has something to do with that.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Bitter


- AdamFrench

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
That and the fact that Calgary lets their first line free wheel a bit. Montreal....not so much.

Bourque will be a big, physical, third line guy who can sub into the top 6. The big bonus here is the cap space for the next two years. I love that Kaberle trade.

- yemrots

I'd Put Bourque and Cole with Eller.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
I'd Put Bourque and Cole with Eller.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Ice time with Eller is earned not given.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Not saying that Cammy was bad. Just that his numbers in Calgary are a lot higher than they were in Montreal. I think the system has something to do with that.
- yemrots

he missed Peter Lombardious
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Bitter


- AdamFrench

Love those guys.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET

- Pecafan Fan

well played.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Ice time with Eller is earned not given.
- dt99999

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 11.26.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Ice time with Eller is earned not given.
- dt99999

yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:16 AM ET
Ice time with Eller is earned not given.
- dt99999

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jan 13 @ 10:16 AM ET

- Pecafan Fan

habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jan 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
Not saying that Cammy was bad. Just that his numbers in Calgary are a lot higher than they were in Montreal. I think the system has something to do with that.
- yemrots

Could be, I think it's more an Eastern Conference vs Western Conference thing, but who knows.
When was the last time CGY made the playoffs?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jan 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
Could be, I think it's more an Eastern Conference vs Western Conference thing, but who knows.
When was the last time CGY made the playoffs?

- habby

At least once since the lockout. Panthers and Leafs only teams not to since.
CaseysHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga
Joined: 02.15.2011

Jan 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
But beyond what Cammalleri could've provided in his performance (he wasn't likely to be the difference last night with zero shots on goal, zero points, zero hits, zero blocked shots), what kind of distraction is it for the team to know a player was pulled off the bench and traded mid-game, in a league where that just never happens?


It wasn't a distraction, it was a relief.

- Pecafan Fan



Bang on. People are accusing PG of lying about the age of these trade discussions. I suspect these discussions have been ongoing... anyone with a brain cell who is watching this team knows Cammy had to go... I suspect Cammy knew the trade was coming eventually and chose to do 2 things. First, he hit the gas with his comments. Second, he fed his own ego and made it seem like the trade was his initiation. This is a good move. Never mind what Bourque brings. It offloads a bad contract, and it rids the dressing room of Cammy's selfish influence.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
I'd Put Bourque and Cole with Eller.
- Cape Breton Bruins

Pacioretty has to be given top 3 minutes. Keep throwing him out there. He has the most talent on the team (forwards) and going forward has to be given the opportunity to take the next step.
He needs to stay with Cole...and maybe with that turtlenecked freak. Try and at least get a first line.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jan 13 @ 10:19 AM ET
At least once since the lockout. Panthers and Leafs only teams not to since.
- Cape Breton Bruins

They actually haven't made it since cammi left. No clue what that means.
CaseysHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga
Joined: 02.15.2011

Jan 13 @ 10:19 AM ET
Where was your complaining when he was Mtls best forward in the playoffs over the last few years?
- habby


No one was complaining. He is a lot of fun to watch in the playoffs. But man, it creates one serious cramp in the eyeball to watch him in the 82 games leading up to.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
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Jan 13 @ 10:20 AM ET

EE ... PMSing ?
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jan 13 @ 10:20 AM ET
Pacioretty has to be given top 3 minutes. Keep throwing him out there. He has the most talent on the team (forwards) and going forward has to be given the opportunity to take the next step.
He needs to stay with Cole...and maybe with that turtlenecked freak. Try and at least get a first line.

- yemrots



Richard
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
Bang on. People are accusing PG of lying about the age of these trade discussions. I suspect these discussions have been ongoing... anyone with a brain cell who is watching this team knows Cammy had to go... I suspect Cammy knew the trade was coming eventually and chose to do 2 things. First, he hit the gas with his comments. Second, he fed his own ego and made it seem like the trade was his initiation. This is a good move. Never mind what Bourque brings. It offloads a bad contract, and it rids the dressing room of Cammy's selfish influence.
- CaseysHabs



anyone member of the media who expects a GM to be entirely forthcoming about the details and reasons behind a trade - especially one done in these circumstances - probably thinks a bit too highly of themselves and their profession.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
outch

yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
Could be, I think it's more an Eastern Conference vs Western Conference thing, but who knows.
When was the last time CGY made the playoffs?

- habby

The year Cammy was there. The finished 5th in the conference.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
outch


- Symba007



well if Danny Vear agrees....




who the (frank) is Danny Vear?
CaseysHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga
Joined: 02.15.2011

Jan 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
Pacioretty has to be given top 3 minutes. Keep throwing him out there. He has the most talent on the team (forwards) and going forward has to be given the opportunity to take the next step.
He needs to stay with Cole...and maybe with that turtlenecked freak. Try and at least get a first line.

- yemrots


Yeah, let's not mess with Cole, Patches and DD. And leave the Eller, AK and Moen line alone. Let's see if we can wake Pleks up with someone other than Cammy. I think the writing was on the wall when Cammy announced how much he liked playing with DD. You play with Pleks for 2 years, and announce how much you like another centre after 2 games with him? Let's try Pleks, Bourque and Blunden and see what happens.
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