not a chance
- flyerscup2011

That's what Burke trading Schenn & Kadri for JvR and a second would be.

yep. they would then be in the mkt for a pwr forward having traded JVR who now would be healthy and going all versteeg.
- isaiah520

JVR is going to be a very good player. No doubt about it in my mind. I'd rather be in the market for a Power Forward then a top pair defenseman.

Pronger's status is important, I'm just wondering if Kimmo comes back for one more year. He'll be 37 in March, a great player, if he retires it frees up $6.3 million in cap room.
- ravishingone

I have no doubt Kimmo will play next year and fulfill his contract.

That's twice this week!

- MJL

no, just once

I have no doubt Kimmo will play next year and fulfill his contract.
- eayost

I hope so also, he's been a great Flyer.

NHL GM's don't do favors for another team when he's trying to position his team for a Cup run.
- MJL

which one of those teams was in a position to win a cup last year?

no, just once
- isaiah520

Twice, I'm still waiting for the proof that I wouldn't make the deal for the first overall pick?

which one of those teams was in a position to win a cup last year?
- JoeRussomanno

The Flyers.

That's what Burke trading Schenn & Kadri for JvR and a second would be.
- Jsaquella

i don't think it's that lop-sided

JVR is going to be a very good player. No doubt about it in my mind. I'd rather be in the market for a Power Forward then a top pair defenseman.
- MJL

if schenn matches that description -which I doubt- true

tough to believe JVR going in a "I owe you one" deal,
- puckhead17

crazier things have happened.

if schenn matches that description -which I doubt- true
- isaiah520

On what basis do you doubt it?

if the team wants him bad enough, yea.
- JoeRussomanno

I suppose. But it seems a bit risky to me for Burke to trade for him and then he has off season (or sooner) surgery. You never know how well or long it takes a guy to come back from that.

The Flyers.
- MJL

with their goaltending situation it really didn't seem last year like they were to me.

Twice, I'm still waiting for the proof that I wouldn't make the deal for the first overall pick?
- MJL

we're done w/ that and I'm not getting banned around the frigging trade deadline because you were too lazy to look thru the thread. move on please.

I suppose. But it seems a bit risky to me for Burke to trade for him and then he has off season (or sooner) surgery. You never know how well or long it takes a guy to come back from that.
- rockychocbill

It happened last year to us with Versteeg.

with their goaltending situation it really didn't seem last year like they were to me.
- JoeRussomanno

Why not. They went to the Finals the year before. If Holmgren didn't think they had a legitimate shot at the Cup, he wouldn't have made the Versteeg deal.

i don't think it's that lop-sided
- flyerscup2011

Over the summer, both Kadri and Schenn were untouchable. Both were picked in the top 6 of their draft classes within the past few years. Both are very good youngsters with loads of potential. I can't see Burke trading both for JvR and a 2nd.

This is smoke....Holmer just allowing his buddy Burkie to use this situation to pressure the Ducks.

crazier things have happened.
- JoeRussomanno

yeah, but hard to believe that they soured on JVR this quickly, to be in all these rumors

Over the summer, both Kadri and Schenn were untouchable. Both were picked in the top 6 of their draft classes within the past few years. Both are very good youngsters with loads of potential. I can't see Burke trading both for JvR and a 2nd.
- Jsaquella

we'll throw in dan jancevski!

Why not. They went to the Finals the year before. If Holmgren didn't think they had a legitimate shot at the Cup, he wouldn't have made the Versteeg deal.
- MJL

They did a serious swan dive in the second half. That and they had a healthy Pronger going into the playoffs, last year his health wasn't certain and the team looked a whole lot different with him out.

Over the summer, both Kadri and Schenn were untouchable. Both were picked in the top 6 of their draft classes within the past few years. Both are very good youngsters with loads of potential. I can't see Burke trading both for JvR and a 2nd.
- Jsaquella

Not for JVR & a 2nd, but JVR & another proven piece maybe, only we don't have a young D man of that ilk to offer

yeah, but hard to believe that they soured on JVR this quickly, to be in all these rumors
- puckhead17

I don't think they have soured on JvR at all. I think that Burke loves him, and is actively trying to get him. Even if you love a player, if another GM comes in and makes a pitch, you hear him out.

It sure seemed that Burke wanted to bring in one of his old Duck players, but apparently, he's shifted to JvR.

On what basis do you doubt it?
- MJL

my own observation and research on what he could become vs what I would consider a top pairing guy. rated as a 2nd pairing shutdown guy who would be valuable in pk situations but I don't see a role for him on the pp, which I would expect out of a top pairing guy.