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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 13 @ 4:41 PM ET
I would be happy if it was :
To Flyers:
Schenn+colborne

To Leafs:
Jvr+2nd

- griouxmvp2012

I wouldn't. "dont overpay for a stay home dman" was the quote on the hockey channel today and I heartily concur.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
_LEEDDustin Leed

That said, discussion is taking place, from what I'm told, and Flyers would need Schenn + to move him
I know its Dustin Leed but it seems like this has legs esp when you have Darren D talking about it. Today might be interesting
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
_LEEDDustin Leed

That said, discussion is taking place, from what I'm told, and Flyers would need Schenn + to move him
I know its Dustin Leed but it seems like this has legs esp when you have Darren D talking about it. Today might be interesting

- bigmookalookie


What else would Toronto give up? Man this could be very interesting!
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jan 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
Its funny bc people thought the Flyers shouldnt of traded Richards and Carter either. JvR has potential but so does Schenn. JvR has to prove himself more before I start labeling him "untouchable". He had a nice playoff series last year against Boston but that dont define a player in my opinion. Just my thoughts, nothing against your post.
- stveshdy


No way he's untouchable... but I don't think Schenn is anyway near enough.
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Jan 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
_LEEDDustin Leed

That said, discussion is taking place, from what I'm told, and Flyers would need Schenn + to move him
I know its Dustin Leed but it seems like this has legs esp when you have Darren D talking about it. Today might be interesting

- bigmookalookie

D_LEED Dustin Leed
Also, a two-for-one isn't likely. Draft picks most likely involved that Flyers involved in Kings and Panthers trade last offseason.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
No way he's untouchable... but I don't think Schenn is anyway near enough.
- flyguy12


If Toronto offers Schenn what else will be the + ? Im trying to think from Toronto's point of view...they cant overpay for JvR either!
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
What else would Toronto give up? Man this could be very interesting!
- stveshdy

If burke knows he can nab JVR with Schenn plus I think Homer will pull the trigger. It wouldnt suprise me in the least that Homer would make a trade but Burke knows he would overpay to get JVR. I really think that Burke has a JVR stiffy and would overpay to attain him, esp after he missed out on Carter and Richards over the summer
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:58 PM ET
If burke knows he can nab JVR with Schenn plus I think Homer will pull the trigger. It wouldnt suprise me in the least that Homer would make a trade but Burke knows he would overpay to get JVR. I really think that Burke has a JVR stiffy and would overpay to attain him, esp after he missed out on Carter and Richards over the summer
- bigmookalookie


If he is willing to overpay I see no reason this deal will be held up. I still believe as good as JvR may be, Toronto is not willing to give up much more than Schenn.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jan 13 @ 4:58 PM ET
If Toronto offers Schenn what else will be the + ? Im trying to think from Toronto's point of view...they cant overpay for JvR either!
- stveshdy


You need a legit prospect. I know they love Kadri but it would have to be somebody like that or a decent forward with size. Obviously if a guy like Kadri were involved the Flyers would have to add more as well.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 4:58 PM ET
D_LEED Dustin Leed
Also, a two-for-one isn't likely. Draft picks most likely involved that Flyers involved in Kings and Panthers trade last offseason.

- Scottie Upshall

But it seems as things are getting interesting and trade talks are heating up a tad
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 13 @ 4:58 PM ET
Yes! Thanks doc.

I believe CAM is the term that the CSN writer referred to. So how debilitating is this long term iyo?

- rockychocbill

It really depends on a few factors. How intrusive the bone growth is, it's location, has it done significant or minor labral damage, etc. Honestly I have seen a ton of them. They can be fixed arthroscopically or open... Arthroscopically is a much faster recovery, but doesn't fix the main problem (the growth). Open you have to dislocate the hip shave off that bone repair the labrum reduce the hip and requires typically 5-7 weeks of crutches and non weightbearing. The final recovery is typically like 3 months but the bonus is that it's generally one and done.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 13 @ 4:59 PM ET
If burke knows he can nab JVR with Schenn plus I think Homer will pull the trigger. It wouldnt suprise me in the least that Homer would make a trade but Burke knows he would overpay to get JVR. I really think that Burke has a JVR stiffy and would overpay to attain him, esp after he missed out on Carter and Richards over the summer
- bigmookalookie


I'm mildly surprised that the talks seem to have sped up so fast. It seems as if Dreger was saying nothing's imminent last night and today, if it doesn't happen soon, Schenn will be off the market.

Meanwhile,

tpanotchCSN Tim Panaccio
Erik Gustafsson tells me he is playing tomorrow vs NSH. Flyers showcasing him for possible trade deadline deal for Suter?
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jan 13 @ 4:59 PM ET
If burke knows he can nab JVR with Schenn plus I think Homer will pull the trigger. It wouldnt suprise me in the least that Homer would make a trade but Burke knows he would overpay to get JVR. I really think that Burke has a JVR stiffy and would overpay to attain him, esp after he missed out on Carter and Richards over the summer
- bigmookalookie


I think Burke can get another shot @ Carter this year. Sounds like he's not happy in CBUS.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
If he is willing to overpay I see no reason this deal will be held up. I still believe as good as JvR may be, Toronto is not willing to give up much more than Schenn.
- stveshdy

Guess we will see here very shortly. I think the MTL and CGY trades are gonna set off a few more trades.
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Jan 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
NHLTradesFirst Trade Breaker
Brian Burke's phone has been busy regarding Schenn. Told a decision will be made soon on whether to trade him #Ducks #Flyers #Canes #Oilers
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
What else would Toronto give up? Man this could be very interesting!
- stveshdy

joe colburne
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jan 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
It really depends on a few factors. How intrusive the bone growth is, it's location, has it done significant or minor labral damage, etc. Honestly I have seen a ton of them. They can be fixed arthroscopically or open... Arthroscopically is a much faster recovery, but doesn't fix the main problem (the growth). Open you have to dislocate the hip shave off that bone repair the labrum reduce the hip and requires typically 5-7 weeks of crutches and non weightbearing. The final recovery is typically like 3 months but the bonus is that it's generally one and done.
- jak521


Isn't the latter what Utley had performed?
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
I'm mildly surprised that the talks seem to have sped up so fast. It seems as if Dreger was saying nothing's imminent last night and today, if it doesn't happen soon, Schenn will be off the market.

Meanwhile,

tpanotchCSN Tim Panaccio
Erik Gustafsson tells me he is playing tomorrow vs NSH. Flyers showcasing him for possible trade deadline deal for Suter?

- Jsaquella

friggin timmy. Guess we will see what happens, but I agree if Schenn isnt gone by tonight he wont be going anywhere
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
I'm mildly surprised that the talks seem to have sped up so fast. It seems as if Dreger was saying nothing's imminent last night and today, if it doesn't happen soon, Schenn will be off the market.

Meanwhile,

tpanotchCSN Tim Panaccio
Erik Gustafsson tells me he is playing tomorrow vs NSH. Flyers showcasing him for possible trade deadline deal for Suter?

- Jsaquella


seriously unreal
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 13 @ 5:02 PM ET
If he is willing to overpay I see no reason this deal will be held up. I still believe as good as JvR may be, Toronto is not willing to give up much more than Schenn.
- stveshdy

schenn is not such a prodigious talent that there needs to be any rush...hold out for Kadri as part of the pckg, otherwise the flyers still have loads of time/options.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:03 PM ET
NHLTradesFirst Trade Breaker
Brian Burke's phone has been busy regarding Schenn. Told a decision will be made soon on whether to trade him #Ducks #Flyers #Canes #Oilers

- Scottie Upshall

nice, bet once something happens twitter will meltdown
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jan 13 @ 5:04 PM ET
joe colburne
- griouxmvp2012

don't need a 3rd line center w/ 2nd line ability...loaded w/ those.
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Jan 13 @ 5:05 PM ET
don't need a 3rd line center w/ 2nd line ability...loaded w/ those.
- isaiah520

Leaf fans told me to leave when I said JVR for Schenn and Colbs
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 5:06 PM ET
Leaf fans told me to leave when I said JVR for Schenn and Colbs
- Scottie Upshall

If that trade happens you can go back and tell that (frank)er to eat your ass
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 13 @ 5:06 PM ET
Carbomb done for season with torn ACL
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