I'd be regretting it now. Also, the Isles, Ottawa...etc.
- Jsaquella

yeah, he's looking like one of the steals of the draft. The way he's starting to pot goals and gain confidence on O while keeping his d game in order is beyond impressive for a 19 yr old. I would not be shocked if in a few years he's our version of Staal. Funny, when Homer made the trade for Voracek and the 1st, he didn't know he could get Cooter even if he wanted him. It's amazing how well it worked out.

I know that. However, it hasn't even been a month since Pronger was ruled out for the season. Their clear hope was to get him back. Now with that out of the question, they are clearly working the lines to get a dman of the future in here. Which I agree with 100%.

My point, in saying the waiting game, is in reference to the future of our defense. People statin the Flyers should wait until the offseason and hopefully sign a dman in free agency so they don't have to give up assets. To me, if you can get that guy now and not MAYBE sign a Suter in the offseason, it is a smart move and a VERY Flyers type of move. The Flyers don't "wait to maybe get something" they act to get something now.
- Flyers2821

Right now, they are waiting, though. I think even if they trade for Schenn, they are in the hunt for Suter in the summer.

Honestly, I'd be fine if they stood pat, rather than make a bad trade or overpay for a depth veteran.

The need can be filled without trading a core player. I would much rather sign Suter as a UFA, instead of trading JVR for a guy that isn't a slam dunk.
- PLindbergh31

I am not saying for Schenn. I am saying for a guy they feel as an organization is a long term cornerstone piece to the blue line. If they can make a move for a guy they think is that, they will do it over waiting until the offseason to be one of the 20 teams who might get Suter to sign with them.

Couturier is a non starter for me in any realistic deal. I can't wait to see what this guy is doing in 5 years

I wonder if Winnipeg is going to regret taking Mark Scheifele over Sean Couturier in a couple of years.
- bradleyc4

There is a decent chance that Couturier turns out to be the second best player from that draft when it's all said and done.

or if they already do.
- OrangeBlack27

Yeah, kinda what I was going for.

Couturier is a non starter for me in any realistic deal. I can't wait to see what this guy is doing in 5 years
- eayost

I'd only trade him if I could unload Bryzgalov's contract on someone.

Right now, they are waiting, though. I think even if they trade for Schenn, they are in the hunt for Suter in the summer.

Honestly, I'd be fine if they stood pat, rather than make a bad trade or overpay for a depth veteran.
- Jsaquella

However, if they can get a guy who they feel as an organization is a future cornerstone piece to their blueline... they will do it over waiting to maybe sign Suter in the offseason. That is just how the Flyers have always operated. Very proactive attitude.

JSAQ you love gleason whose to say he wont want more money after his contract is up....im just saying no to rentals right now...we arent going to win it this year even with sutter or webber...why over pay for those guys when schenn in two years is going to 25 and much better...
- Philly1980

He might want more. I also think that a second rounder and roster player is too much for Gleason.

And I'm not anti-Schenn, at all. I like Luke Schenn.

Couturier is a non starter for me in any realistic deal. I can't wait to see what this guy is doing in 5 years
- eayost

Giroux, Schenn, Couturier are all untouchables in my opinion.

I'd only trade him if I could unload Bryzgalov's contract on someone.
- bradleyc4

They can send Bryz to Switzerland to play with Huet if they want.

Yeah, kinda what I was going for.
- bradleyc4

he's a little dense sometimes.

I'd only trade him if I could unload Bryzgalov's contract on someone.
- bradleyc4

ur the worst

I am not saying for Schenn. I am saying for a guy they feel as an organization is a long term cornerstone piece to the blue line. If they can make a move for a guy they think is that, they will do it over waiting until the offseason to be one of the 20 teams who might get Suter to sign with them.
- Flyers2821

If a cornerstone blueliner is available at a fair price, of course they ought consider it seriously. The question is whether that trade is actually out there. And if the Flyers let the deadline go by without making such a trade, they can always revisit that discussion in the offseason to see where the price is at.

ur the worst
- Don'tForgetTocchet

That'd be great.

I have said, time and again, my choice would be sending non roster assets for Gleason, Gill, Beauchemin or somebody like that-a guy who would be a stopgap/possible re-sign target, and then go after a big fish in the summer.

However, in simply discussing the rumor du jour...
- Jsaquella

As am I. I personally think Gleason would be a perfect fit.. and I would look to resign him as well (hopefully at around the same price).

If they dont resign any UFA's and bury Shelley in the minors next season, they would have $9,074,167 + cap increase to work with..

Resign Voracek 4 year 3 mill cap hit.. takes away about 500,000.

So with 8.5mil plus the new cap (for arguments sake say it goes up 1.5), oh, and assuming Pronger is done and LTIR'ed add another $4.9 to that.. you would have roughly 14.9 mil to play with..

Figure they re-sign Jagr, at 3 mil. you have 11.9 mill to sign d-men and add some depth.

Youth is the primary reason. Low cap hits.

However, if they can get a guy who they feel as an organization is a future cornerstone piece to their blueline... they will do it over waiting to maybe sign Suter in the offseason. That is just how the Flyers have always operated. Very proactive attitude.
- Flyers2821

If they can, then they should make the move. Absolutely. If you get a guy who can be your franchise defenseman for ten years or so, you have to look really hard at it.

At the same time, I think they look at JvR as a cornerstone of the future. Because a big winger that can score 30-35 goals is just as rare as top pair defensemen.

He might want more. I also think that a second rounder and roster player is too much for Gleason.

And I'm not anti-Schenn, at all. I like Luke Schenn.
- Jsaquella

I would just like to get some guy that is gonna grow with this team...not saying schenn is going to be the next pronger or webber but the potential is there....same with JVR you cant say hell be the next leclare but the potential is also there...it be happy with a one for one trade...

Right now, they are waiting, though. I think even if they trade for Schenn, they are in the hunt for Suter in the summer.

Honestly, I'd be fine if they stood pat, rather than make a bad trade or overpay for a depth veteran.
- Jsaquella

And are they REALLY playing the waiting game right now or have they been trying to acquire a dman since Pronger went out? That is something we will never know.

However, with the widespread knowledge that Burke makes his deals WELL before the TDL... it may show urgency on the Flyers part to get a trade done ASAP. Just a thought.

They can send Bryz to Switzerland to play with Huet if they want.
- eayost

He would have to OK that.

As am I. I personally think Gleason would be a perfect fit.. and I would look to resign him as well (hopefully at around the same price).

If they dont resign any UFA's and bury Shelley in the minors next season, they would have $9,074,167 + cap increase to work with..

Resign Voracek 4 year 3 mill cap hit.. takes away about 500,000.

So with 8.5mil plus the new cap (for arguments sake say it goes up 1.5), oh, and assuming Pronger is done and LTIR'ed add another $4.9 to that.. you would have roughly 14.9 mil to play with..

Figure they re-sign Jagr, at 3 mil. you have 11.9 mill to sign d-men and add some depth.

Youth is the primary reason. Low cap hits.
- jak521

I like the cut of your jib.

Discussing a JvR trade, and even being open to it, does not mean I'd champing at the bit to make it happen.

I'd only trade him if I could unload Bryzgalov's contract on someone.
- bradleyc4

And are they REALLY playing the waiting game right now or have they been trying to acquire a dman since Pronger went out? That is something we will never know.

However, with the widespread knowledge that Burke makes his deals WELL before the TDL... it may show urgency on the Flyers part to get a trade done ASAP. Just a thought.
- Flyers2821

I'm sure they have been trying to acquire a defenseman since Pronger got hit in the eye.

But discussing trades is not the same as not waiting. You can discuss a trade all the live long day. Not pulling the trigger on the deal is waiting.

- griouxmvp2012

If that goal was scored on Bryz.. he would have been murdered twelve times by sunday on here.