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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 12 @ 11:18 AM ET
jvr for jvr and a 1st
- feelingkettle


Jack-Meoff
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
I would give Nashville this package. JVR, Gustafsson, a # 1 and a #3 for Weber.
- PLindbergh31



I dont think that gets it done.....

I would do JVR, Carle, 1st and read
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
I dont think so..

Look at what it took San Jose to get Brent Burns..
Setoguchi, Coyle, and a 1st.

If we overpay, and that is exactly what we would be doing, it could hurt us in other places.

The fact that he is a UFA in 6 months is pretty much all I need to know in order to decide that Suter is not worth trading for right now.

- jak521


That's what I was saying earlier, the price to acquire a young puck moving dman is staggering.

I think you need to build the Defense through the draft and make some smart UFA signings like an Ian White type and so on.

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
Well when that future comes, Timonen will be gone and your going to be in the same situation as we are now looking for more defense. With Timonen here this and next year and the budding talent this team has... they have a legit opportunity for a cup this or next year.
- Flyers2821
without pronger theyll get destroyed by boston....no ones is going to push out the bruins from the front..
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
Best Dman in the game right now ...I'd do anything to acquire him.
- keatondixon

anything?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
jvr for jvr and a 1st
- feelingkettle

Wait...

Thats it! Trade JvR for JvR, and swing him in a deal for JvR
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jan 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
jvr for jvr and a 1st
- feelingkettle


eh, it's risky
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
I dont think that gets it done.....

I would do JVR, Carle, 1st and read

- Jack-Meoff



ugh. i hate these 4 for 1 deals - forget the players or the teams - it's just too much.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
Nothing to analyze with Flyers/Fishsticks Butsy. It's like the Globetrotters vs. the Washington Generals.

- PLindbergh31


This game worries me.

The Fishsticks are due to get it going, they have some talent.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
That's what I was saying earlier, the price to acquire a young puck moving dman is staggering.

I think you need to build the Defense through the draft and make some smart UFA signings like an Ian White type and so on.

- Buts16

What do you think of a Hal Gill as a stop gap on that 3rd pair?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
That's what I was saying earlier, the price to acquire a young puck moving dman is staggering.

I think you need to build the Defense through the draft and make some smart UFA signings like an Ian White type and so on.

- Buts16


let's see what young gusty's got. hopefully he stays on the healthy train.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
ugh. i hate these 4 for 1 deals - forget the players or the teams - it's just too much.
- hammarby31

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
Dude.. Claude Giroux is the best player in the NHL. You don't trade him for anyone. Period.


And you say great centers are much easier to come across than top dmen. Over the past 5 years the Flyers have had 2 of the games best dmen on their team and havent had an elite center since Eric Lindros.

Name the NHL centers on Claude Giroux's level over the past decade. Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin... The dude is an absolute rare breed. To trade him for anyone would be absolutely horrendous.

- Flyers2821


I think Giroux is one of the best players in the league but I wouldnt say the best. He needs to get better defensively to be considered the best in the league. Offensively he is as talented as anyone. Im not saying I would trade him for anyone just dont think he is the best player in the league yet.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
eh, it's risky
- FlyerMike18

LeClair didn't come into his own until he was traded. If Jvr is compared to LeClair, maybe trading him for himself will allow him to finally become the player we all know he can be. Plus we get a 1st out of it.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
anything?
- feelingkettle

Maybe...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
I dont think that gets it done.....

I would do JVR, Carle, 1st and read

- Jack-Meoff


Nashville won't want Carle. They aren't going to take any UFA's back in a deal for Weber.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
LeClair didn't come into his own until he was traded. If Jvr is compared to LeClair, maybe trading him for himself will allow him to finally become the player we all know he can be. Plus we get a 1st out of it.
- feelingkettle

Jack-Meoff
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
ugh. i hate these 4 for 1 deals - forget the players or the teams - it's just too much.
- hammarby31


Yea me 2 but the way I see it, the flyers will lose Carle for nothing in the off season because they wont be able to resign him....and read and that first might not turn out into anything great.... So the biggest lose would be JVR
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
I think Giroux is one of the best players in the league but I wouldnt say the best. He needs to get better defensively to be considered the best in the league. Offensively he is as talented as anyone. Im not saying I would trade him for anyone just dont think he is the best player in the league yet.
- stveshdy


nor do i. he's making his mark though.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
This game worries me.

The Fishsticks are due to get it going, they have some talent.

- Buts16


They just smoked the Wings, that was their season highlight.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jan 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
Wayne Gretzky was the best player ever.. How many times was he traded?
- jak521


Once in his prime and it was a mistake.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
What do you think of a Hal Gill as a stop gap on that 3rd pair?
- jak521


If the Flyers got him cheap at the deadline I'd be thrilled, he's a very good 3rd pairing Dman with Cup experience.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
Once in his prime and it was a mistake.
- Flyers2821

He played for 4 teams, dude.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
Yea me 2 but the way I see it, the flyers will lose Carle for nothing in the off season because they wont be able to resign him....and read and that first might not turn out into anything great.... So the biggest lose would be JVR
- Jack-Meoff


i can live with losing carle, but i don't see Read as a flash in the pan, and i HATE giving up 1st rounders. sometimes we exchange them - like carter for couturier - and it looks like it will work out, but in general i don't like this practice.

Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
let's see what young gusty's got. hopefully he stays on the healthy train.
- hammarby31


yes, this is where I am.
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