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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
I see your point, but for a '67 expansion franchise to be even in the same conversation even when it comes to regular season success as a team that dominated the sport for decades at a time is impressive to me. Let alone the fact that we may pass them.

We have an awful record all time in the finals. Since the mid 70's runs we just seem to not come through in the final round (granted sometimes it was due to major injuries) I wish we were more like the Oilers who I think are 5 series wins and 2 losses.

- Hextall271


i didn't mean to undermine the flyers regular season success. it's a tremendous accomplishment and certainly made it enjoyable to be a fan. i just meant in direct comparison to the habs, despite their futility in recent years, they'd get the last laugh with all that hardware. tough to swallow when we've been close so many times, but have generally run up against a healthy juggernaut while being riddled with injuries at the same time. it sucks.

dcflyerfan71
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 09.18.2009

Jan 11 @ 9:48 AM ET

I'll take the win, but I was not very happy with how the Flyers performed at the dot last night or the fight along the boards.

It was my observation that even when a Flyer center "won" the faceoff, too many times the Carolina winger ended up with the puck. It seemed even more dramatic because of the goal it cost the Flyers, but also during special teams. I also felt the Flyers lost too many board battles.

IMHO, the Flyers were a bit lucky that BOB was on his game and Carolina is not a truely strong team.

If that game was against a stronger / playoff positioned team, I think that the Flyers lose.

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
mab has done a very nice job. his play has dipped a bit in recent games, but that's to be expected. do i want to go into the playoffs with him as a #6? i'd prefer a solid veteran rental because i don't want lava to shorten his bench and run his top 4 into the ground. it never works.
- hammarby31


mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
i have a concern with the team and not sure what will happen but danny b is signed for 3 more years after this and nothing against him but after this season i feel our top 3 centers will have to be g, schenn and cooter, moving briere to wing didnt pan out so my question is where does danny b fit on the team after this season?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:50 AM ET
Schenn really Carter'd that play didn't he.
- Buts16


yes and no. i'd say no only in that he didn't put the puck back into anderson the way carter did at other times. see pittsburgh, maf, as the prime example. anderson made that save - awesome and lucky as it was.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:51 AM ET
Schenn really Carter'd that play didn't he.
- Buts16



hi buts
are you as pumped about couturier as i am? can't get over him.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:51 AM ET
I'll take the win, but I was not very happy with how the Flyers performed at the dot last night or the fight along the boards.

It was my observation that even when a Flyer center "won" the faceoff, too many times the Carolina winger ended up with the puck. It seemed even more dramatic because of the goal it cost the Flyers, but also during special teams. I also felt the Flyers lost too many board battles.

IMHO, the Flyers were a bit lucky that BOB was on his game and Carolina is not a truely strong team.

If that game was against a stronger / playoff positioned team, I think that the Flyers lose.

- dcflyerfan71


agreed. but the points count just the same.

faceoffs are a problem.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:52 AM ET
i have a concern with the team and not sure what will happen but danny b is signed for 3 more years after this and nothing against him but after this season i feel our top 3 centers will have to be g, schenn and cooter, moving briere to wing didnt pan out so my question is where does danny b fit on the team after this season?
- mydoglicks


he can be the house dad and continue to billet all the new guys until they're ready to go out on their own.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:52 AM ET
hi buts
are you as pumped about couturier as i am? can't get over him.

- Don'tForgetTocchet


i know my brother is, with his authentic cooter jersey and all.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:53 AM ET
Schenn really Carter'd that play didn't he.
- Buts16


I had a very similar feeling of frustration on that one.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:54 AM ET
LOVE LOVE that the Habs got shut out at home by Halak.

The Habs moved the Molson Cup for December presentation to last night (3rd home game of the month) The winner was Price and this was obviously done to take away from the return of the Halak. They'll say it wasn't but it was and it was petty.

Watch out for the Blues, holy smokes they're on fire

- Buts16

just another jack adams trophy for hitch's cabinet of glory
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 11 @ 9:54 AM ET
Maybe it sucks that we are in this position, but the fact is, the org has to get Bryz playing like he can or we are in major trouble with the money we forked out. Play him.. get it sorted out and everyone is happy.
- Hextall271


Bob played solid last night. Not to take anything away from his performance but Carolina stinks in my opinion. I think they have to give Bob another start, but Bryzgalov needs to get his poop together.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 11 @ 9:56 AM ET
just another jack adams trophy for hitch's cabinet of glory
- Crimsoninja

Good thing we got rid of him.
mcdaniel14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 11 @ 9:57 AM ET
"Let's put it this way: If someone told you when training camp started that Philly would have 54 points at the midway mark -- without the benefit of a single shootout win -- would you have taken it? I certainly would, and would have thought pretty much everything would have gone right and the club would have stayed healthy to get there.

Now, what if someone said that Chris Pronger would be limited to 13 games for the entire season? What if they told you that Ilya Bryzgalov would have a goals against average over 3.00 and save percentage under .890? I would have said that 54 points would be almost impossible under those circumstances.

How about if someone told you that the Flyers would rank in the league's top three in goals per game, and would have eight forwards on pace for 20-plus goals? Oh, and what if they added that highly touted rookie Schenn would have just two goals at the midpoint and Jakub Voracek would be on pace for only 12 tallies?

That's why hockey is played on ice and not on paper. The game is not just about statistics and the outcomes often confound expectations. The Flyers have a lot of work to do between now and April to be legitimate Stanley Cup contenders. But it's hard not to tip your hat to Peter Laviolette and his team for what they've accomplished overall so far."


Makes you appreciate the depth of this team, for sure.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:57 AM ET
Good thing we got rid of him.
- FLYERSROCK!

had on Pigs by pink floyd last night. the cowbell made me think of you.


i need to get off this site.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:58 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 1/11/12
- bmeltzer

http://www.philly.com/phi...-be-coming-to-Philly.html
This is Seravalli's story this AM about the Flyers talking to Burke about Luke Schenn. Sounds interesting on many levels and like it could be a good fit. Any opinion and thoughts as what it might cost us?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 11 @ 9:59 AM ET
Bob played solid last night. Not to take anything away from his performance but Carolina stinks in my opinion. I think they have to give Bob another start, but Bryzgalov needs to get his poop together.
- stveshdy


Well, Bryz needing to get his poop together is precisely why I think he needs to start. Maybe the next two. He's got to get some confidence and start moving in the right direction, and that's a long term thing. If we say Bob played well, let's start him until he craps the bed, then Bryz can't move forward. It may cost us a couple points in the short term, but it's what we need to be successful overall this year.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 11 @ 10:01 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Could-Luke-Schenn-be-coming-to-Philly.html
This is Seravalli's story this AM about the Flyers talking to Burke about Luke Schenn. Sounds interesting on many levels and like it could be a good fit. Any opinion and thoughts as what it might cost us?

- section32


Bryzgalov for Schenn
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 11 @ 10:01 AM ET
had on Pigs by pink floyd last night. the cowbell made me think of you.


i need to get off this site.

- Crimsoninja



and 2true
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Could-Luke-Schenn-be-coming-to-Philly.html
This is Seravalli's story this AM about the Flyers talking to Burke about Luke Schenn. Sounds interesting on many levels and like it could be a good fit. Any opinion and thoughts as what it might cost us?

- section32


Read that this morning. I dunno. Could be something to it, but I think the price will be high to get him. What will the Leafs want? I say a first rounder or maybe schenn or Simmonds. Young forward talent. Not sure I want to do that.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 11 @ 10:03 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Could-Luke-Schenn-be-coming-to-Philly.html
This is Seravalli's story this AM about the Flyers talking to Burke about Luke Schenn. Sounds interesting on many levels and like it could be a good fit. Any opinion and thoughts as what it might cost us?

- section32

Schenn or Couts. Toronto neeeds C. Im really not interested in trading any of our top 12 FW ATM.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 11 @ 10:03 AM ET
he can be the house dad and continue to billet all the new guys until they're ready to go out on their own.
- hammarby31


thats fine with me, g turned out pretty darn well
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 11 @ 10:03 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Could-Luke-Schenn-be-coming-to-Philly.html
This is Seravalli's story this AM about the Flyers talking to Burke about Luke Schenn. Sounds interesting on many levels and like it could be a good fit. Any opinion and thoughts as what it might cost us?

- section32


How the (frank) does Luke Schenn, a physical, stay at home type, replace a puck mover who is mobile like Matt Carle?

I'd be interested in Schenn, but Burke is not going to give him away. I'd bet he'd want a 1st rounder and a guy like Read for him.

More likely, IMO, is Cody Franson, who has been in and out of Wilson's doghouse.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:04 AM ET
Well, Bryz needing to get his poop together is precisely why I think he needs to start. Maybe the next two. He's got to get some confidence and start moving in the right direction, and that's a long term thing. If we say Bob played well, let's start him until he craps the bed, then Bryz can't move forward. It may cost us a couple points in the short term, but it's what we need to be successful overall this year.
- Hextall271


These two games in my opinion, was the perfect chance to get Bryzgalov going. Your playing Carolina and NYI, the two worst teams in the Eastern Conference. Now instead of your suppose #1 goalie in net your playing your backup. Those games were the perfect opportunity to get Bryzgalovs game going and instead he was riding the pine. Maybe Lavy went with Bob cause of the 4 games in 6 days and I can understand that. Im just not jumping all over the Bob-wagon bc he beat a terrible team in Carolina. I do think Bob played well and dont want to take that away from him last night. He gave the team a boost between the pipes last night.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 11 @ 10:05 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/frequentflyers/Could-Luke-Schenn-be-coming-to-Philly.html
This is Seravalli's story this AM about the Flyers talking to Burke about Luke Schenn. Sounds interesting on many levels and like it could be a good fit. Any opinion and thoughts as what it might cost us?

- section32


the comments are a riot. not sure that i see luke schenn as the type of player the flyers need right now - based on his age and experience. can't comment on his game because i don't watch him play.
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