just finished watching that game. wow that was dull. i'd like the nhl to just allow kicked goals to count. as long as the skate is on the ice, it shouldn't matter if there's a kicking motion or not. i'd rather have that rule than a "what do you think they're going to decide in toronto" rule. make things more black and white rather than a coin toss when it goes to review.

also, the spin-o-rama has to go. what's the goalie supposed to do?
- RealityChecker

I agree with the spin for sure. There is no way that puck keeps moving forward.

As for the skate, how was that less of a kick than the goal of Danny's that was called back?

Why don't they just make the rule that if you trail the other team in the standings than it counts, if not it doesn't?

I agree with the spin for sure. There is no way that puck keeps moving forward.

As for the skate, how was that less of a kick than the goal of Danny's that was called back?

Why don't they just make the rule that if you trail the other team in the standings than it counts, if not it doesn't?
- golfingsince

exactly my point. i thought today's goal was definitely a good goal but i hate that it's always up to the whims of the booth review. it honestly depends on who's manning the booth and how they're feeling on that particular night. that's why they should let them all count as long as the skate is on the ice.

exactly my point. i thought today's goal was definitely a good goal but i hate that it's always up to the whims of the booth review. it honestly depends on who's manning the booth and how they're feeling on that particular night. that's why they should let them all count as long as the skate is on the ice.
- RealityChecker

The problem with the NHL refereeing in general is the rules are no longer black and white, too many grey areas, and way too much left up to the referee's descretion, makes a lot of problems with human error. Especially the intent to blow the whistle rule, this is the dumbest rule ever, and a ref can basically overturn any goal with this rule alone. Seeing as refs are never worried about repercussions of their mistakes or agendas, it doesnt sound like a good idea to me. See Chris Lee or Auger.

exactly my point. i thought today's goal was definitely a good goal but i hate that it's always up to the whims of the booth review. it honestly depends on who's manning the booth and how they're feeling on that particular night. that's why they should let them all count as long as the skate is on the ice.
- RealityChecker

How is Salo still the glue that holds our D corps together? Isn't it time we find a younger less fragile guy to do this?

The problem with the NHL refereeing in general is the rules are no longer black and white, too many grey areas, and way too much left up to the referee's descretion, makes a lot of problems with human error. Especially the intent to blow the whistle rule, this is the dumbest rule ever, and a ref can basically overturn any goal with this rule alone. Seeing as refs are never worried about repercussions of their mistakes or agendas, it doesnt sound like a good idea to me. See Chris Lee or Auger.
- shinebox

but this takes discretion out of the refs hands. it would still go to the booth but as long as a skate is on the ice it's good.

no more of the "kicking motion" BS. that's pure interpretation. one guy sees a kick and another doesn't. one goal is allowed while another virtually identical isn't b/c of this supposed kicking motion.

get rid of the kicking motion and you get rid of the grey area. the only question is "was his skate touching the ice?" easy question to answer with relatively little interpretation.

The problem with the NHL refereeing in general is the rules are no longer black and white, too many grey areas, and way too much left up to the referee's descretion, makes a lot of problems with human error. Especially the intent to blow the whistle rule, this is the dumbest rule ever, and a ref can basically overturn any goal with this rule alone. Seeing as refs are never worried about repercussions of their mistakes or agendas, it doesnt sound like a good idea to me. See Chris Lee or Auger.
- shinebox

This, and how much faster the game keeps getting. I still think there should be an official off of the ice, that works via headset with the referees.

but this takes discretion out of the refs hands. it would still go to the booth but as long as a skate is on the ice it's good.

no more of the "kicking motion" BS. that's pure interpretation. one guy sees a kick and another doesn't. one goal is allowed while another virtually identical isn't b/c of this supposed kicking motion.

get rid of the kicking motion and you get rid of the grey area. the only question is "was his skate touching the ice?" easy question to answer with relatively little interpretation.
- RealityChecker

Why don't they just phone Burkie and ask him what he thinks?

As long as the Leafs aren't involved.

How is Salo still the glue that holds our D corps together? Isn't it time we find a younger less fragile guy to do this?
- golfingsince

he definitely is the quiet stabilizing force for the d corps but having alberts, sulzer and ballard in the same game is a recipe for disaster.

even with a healthy salo, the canucks d is showing a critical lack of another solid top 4/5. a healthy salo should be playing 12-14 mins a night with half of those mins being on the pp.

- Tee-Dot

- Tee-Dot

How's is going lucky?

This, and how much faster the game keeps getting. I still think there should be an official off of the ice, that works via headset with the referees.
- golfingsince

100% agree.

take one ref off the ice and give him a head set.

but this takes discretion out of the refs hands. it would still go to the booth but as long as a skate is on the ice it's good.

no more of the "kicking motion" BS. that's pure interpretation. one guy sees a kick and another doesn't. one goal is allowed while another virtually identical isn't b/c of this supposed kicking motion.

get rid of the kicking motion and you get rid of the grey area. the only question is "was his skate touching the ice?" easy question to answer with relatively little interpretation.
- RealityChecker

Never quite thought of it like that, but you have a point, although i dont want to see soccer goals either, but angling your skate and not an exact kicking motion should be allowed IMO. If they do it your way i think that everyone will be playing soccer in front of the net, angling the foot is one thing out and out kicking is another.

How's is going lucky?
- golfingsince

Great! About to start a new job in the oilfield.

100% agree.

take one ref off the ice and give him a head set.
- RealityChecker

they don't need any second concussions

Never quite thought of it like that, but you have a point, although i dont want to see soccer goals either, but angling your skate and not an exact kicking motion should be allowed IMO. If they do it your way i think that everyone will be playing soccer in front of the net, angling the foot is one thing out and out kicking is another.
- shinebox

i don't see that happening. it's still easier to play the puck with a stick than a skate. i don't think that we'd get a lot more kicked in goals.

he definitely is the quiet stabilizing force for the d corps but having alberts, sulzer and ballard in the same game is a recipe for disaster.

even with a healthy salo, the canucks d is showing a critical lack of another solid top 4/5. a healthy salo should be playing 12-14 mins a night with half of those mins being on the pp.
- RealityChecker

With Gorges off the table, maybe Beauchemin is the guy we need. I know he hasn't played that well this year, but maybe he can eat up some quality minutes if too much isn't expected of him.

This, and how much faster the game keeps getting. I still think there should be an official off of the ice, that works via headset with the referees.
- golfingsince

Not sure i like this, but i can see it headed this way as well. How about refs that have to answer for bs calls and agendas? Never hear of a ref getting suspended or fined for bs calls. Or even calls overturned in game that doesnt include a bruin i mean.

Edit: or one coaches challenge, like in football costing a time out?

Never quite thought of it like that, but you have a point, although i dont want to see soccer goals either, but angling your skate and not an exact kicking motion should be allowed IMO. If they do it your way i think that everyone will be playing soccer in front of the net, angling the foot is one thing out and out kicking is another.
- shinebox

i don't see the big deal, if everybody can kick the puck in. it is a level playing field. the way it is now is all interpretation

i don't see that happening. it's still easier to play the puck with a stick than a skate. i don't think that we'd get a lot more kicked in goals.
- RealityChecker

I do, i think its a recipe for disaster. I like the skate on the ice thing though.

With Gorges off the table, maybe Beauchemin is the guy we need. I know he hasn't played that well this year, but maybe he can eat up some quality minutes if too much isn't expected of him.
- golfingsince

i like beauchemin. gleason is another one to look at. bryan allen?

Not sure i like this, but i can see it headed this way as well. How about refs that have to answer for bs calls and agendas? Never hear of a ref getting suspended or fined for bs calls. Or even calls overturned in game that doesnt include a bruin i mean.

Edit: or one coaches challenge, like in football costing a time out?
- shinebox

refs can't be held accountable. they will stop calling everything. video replay is the only solution

Not sure i like this, but i can see it headed this way as well. How about refs that have to answer for bs calls and agendas? Never hear of a ref getting suspended or fined for bs calls. Or even calls overturned in game that doesnt include a bruin i mean.

Edit: or one coaches challenge, like in football costing a time out?
- shinebox

That would be awesome. Then Gregson could make some of these, showing the correct call.
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With Gorges off the table, maybe Beauchemin is the guy we need. I know he hasn't played that well this year, but maybe he can eat up some quality minutes if too much isn't expected of him.
- golfingsince

Never saw this coming, habs never deal in season. Although this certainly leads to Price's new contract IMO. Gorges is Price's best friend on the team.

they don't need any second concussions
- bobbyisno1

makes them a better ref.