it isn't out of the question that Parise goes to July 1st unsigned.

If that happens, I very much like Burke's chances of getting him.
- Big_Lightnin

Would be a tough sell though with teams like Detroit going for him.

The only scale tilting advantage the Leafs have is a picture of Parise in a Leafs hat as a kid

dude, I wasn't making the argument, I'm just telling you it most definitely was discussed by actual hockey analysts on television, not just Leaf fans on HB.

You initially said "nobody was talking about Reimer for Vezina" and I was just pointing out that was innaccurate.
- Big_Lightnin

And I'm saying it IS accurate. The discussion "Reimer for Vezina" is VERY different from speculating whether he could have gotten nominated IF he played 60 games. They're not the same thing.

Juice box, the leafs are not contenders. They are in the same general area as NJ, the "sniffing around the bubble" territory. Accept it. If all he cares about it playing in June, it won't be in Newark or Toronto.
- WayneZ

The comparison should be NJ now vs TOR + Parise.....

Toronto + Parise is better than NJ now...

There is no doubt he will go hard for him.

It's just a matter of what Parise thinks of the team after they trade away the necessary pieces to get him.
Wouldn't mind trying to sign Doan to a 2-3 year contract in the summer...he's old but would be a nice piece to teach the forwards a thing or two.
- Juice

If he ends up in Toronto, he becomes a god in this city. I'm pretty sure he'd be a right fit in Toronto, I would see him wearing the Leafs' jersey. What woud it take to bring Parise in Toronto ? Kulemin, Gunnarson and a pick maybe ?

The Devils should do anything possible to re-sign Parise.

That said, the most logical place for Parise to land outside of NJ is Minnesota. It's not a cup team yet, but he was born in Minneapolis, and they obviously have the cap space.

The comparison should be NJ now vs TOR + Parise.....

Toronto + Parise is better than NJ now...
- B-Leaf

Fair enough but

TO + ZPAR not better than NYR/BOS/VAN

If that is all he cares about then he won't be a Leaf. That was the whole argument.

So...with Parise the Leafs are an 8th place team. Yet at the moment they sit in 7th place.

Sounds like solid logic to me.
- Juice

Solid logic yes ....the Leafs were at the top of the conference at the beginning of the season correct? They have now slid down to 7th at the half way point...they will continue to be hot and cold all season especially with an AHL goaltender between the pipes. Washington will be there at the end and probably will pass you guys which leaves you with the last spot to fight over at the end with the other dwellers in the East.

Fair enough but

TO + ZPAR not better than NYR/BOS/VAN

If that is all he cares about then he won't be a Leaf. That was the whole argument.
- WayneZ

If he ends up in NYR/BOS/VAN these teams would have to give up their depth just to make a run at the cup. I don't think they'll go after him, and they wouldn't be able to sign him in the offseason

If he ends up in Toronto, he becomes a god in this city. I'm pretty sure he'd be a right fit in Toronto, I would see him wearing the Leafs' jersey. What woud it take to bring Parise in Toronto ? Kulemin, Gunnarson and a pick maybe ?
- PatrickB17

A guy going from NJ, where he probably could walk down the street in uniform and not be recognized, to a situation like Toronto where he would have reporters hiding out in his bedroom closet, wouldn't end well. He chokes under pressure as it is. I think he would be in the fetal position after a week of the TO spot light.

He chokes under pressure as it is. I think he would be in the fetal position after a week of the TO spot light.
- WayneZ

Are we still talking about Parise?

Adding Parise at best puts you in a fight for the last playoff spot this season...
- keatondixon

We're not there now?

Are we still talking about Parise?
- nyy

Yup

I see the Yotes grabbed Brule off waivers today. Poor Oilers.

Solid logic yes ....the Leafs were at the top of the conference at the beginning of the season correct? They have now slid down to 7th at the half way point...they will continue to be hot and cold all season especially with an AHL goaltender between the pipes. Washington will be there at the end and probably will pass you guys which leaves you with the last spot to fight over at the end with the other dwellers in the East.
- keatondixon

So, your logic is that Toronto has been sliding. Call me crazy, but hasn't Washington actually slid even further since the beginning of the season? Isn't Florida sliding pretty quickly right now..... Faster than Toronto?

A rocket scientist you are not.

Yup
- WayneZ

And when has he choked under pressure? When he got gold at the U18 and U20 IIHF tournaments? When he buried the miracle game-tying goal in the Olympics? When he scored countless goals in the shootout for the Devils?

Give me a break. Parise is a winner, no matter how many people are putting him in the spotlight.

And when has he choked under pressure? When he got gold at the U18 and U20 IIHF tournaments? When he buried the miracle game-tying goal in the Olympics? When he scored countless goals in the shootout for the Devils?

Give me a break.
- nyy

How about everytime he's been in a playoff series or anytime we play a big game, like in Boston the other night. When the stakes get high, zach gets real quiet. Im sorry man, i love him to death, but he doesn't rise to the occasion. WOrld competitions mean very little to me, and the shootout is a crappy gimick, so im not impressed. The guy is far from clutch.

Parise to play with eller and cole in montreal on the first line.

James Neal got a text from Big Ben to tell him to suck it up and play. There are some tough warriors in the City of Pittsburgh when it comes to playing hurt.

James Neal got a text from Big Ben to tell him to suck it up and play. There are some tough warriors in the City of Pittsburgh when it comes to playing hurt.
- Oneonta Penguin

Then tell sid to quit milking this whole PCS thing.

Fair enough but

TO + ZPAR not better than NYR/BOS/VAN

If that is all he cares about then he won't be a Leaf. That was the whole argument.
- WayneZ

So he goes to NYR?.....TOR would improve more than most teams would by adding him because they would lose the least from their active roster to do it.

TOR has owned NYR this year....

So he goes to NYR?.....TOR would improve more than most teams would by adding him because they would lose the least from their active roster to do it.

TOR has owned NYR this year....
- B-Leaf

Take em. Just make sure you help us to stock our coffers before you go. Parise is a 6.5 million dollar player in my mind and anything more is just based on hype. If the guy wants more than that, his first order of business should be to start outscoring David Clarkson.

How about everytime he's been in a playoff series or anytime we play a big game, like in Boston the other night. When the stakes get high, zach gets real quiet. Im sorry man, i love him to death, but he doesn't rise to the occasion. WOrld competitions mean very little to me, and the shootout is a crappy gimick, so im not impressed. The guy is far from clutch.
- WayneZ

Those are much more 'clutch' situations than "in Boston the other night..."

Parise to play with eller and cole in montreal on the first line.
- ShudBeFamous

He wants a chance at a cup...

Those are much more 'clutch' situations than "in Boston the other night..."
- B-Leaf

Im not gonna bash him, i still love the guy. However, when we have big measuring stick games, i.e. in Boston the other night, he is habitually a no show. It's one of those dirty little secrets all devil's fans know but they don't like to admit it publically.

If he ends up in Toronto, he becomes a god in this city. I'm pretty sure he'd be a right fit in Toronto, I would see him wearing the Leafs' jersey. What woud it take to bring Parise in Toronto ? Kulemin, Gunnarson and a pick maybe ?
- PatrickB17

I'd expect it to cost at least:

Schenn + Kulimen + Rynnas or Scrivens
Kadri + Gunnarson + 1st round pick
Colborne + Franson + Rynass or Scrivens + 1st round pick
Kulimen + Gunnarson + Rynass or Scrivens
Schenn + Kadri + 2nd rounder

I honestly don't know...I don't think a trade for him will happen. If he ends up in Toronto, it'd probably be via UFA signing.

But you're right, if he was in Toronto; and performed, he'd be a king in this city.