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BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:08 PM ET
More sad off season news...

@mirtle James Mirtle
Police confirm former Vancouver Canucks tough guy Rick Rypien has been found dead in his Alberta home. More to come.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
More sad off season news...

@mirtle James Mirtle
Police confirm former Vancouver Canucks tough guy Rick Rypien has been found dead in his Alberta home. More to come.

- BringBack25

That is terribly sad.
That guy pound for pound was as tough a fighter as they come.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:28 PM ET
so you understand what S2S means by locker room aids?
- Marc D



i really enjoyed that in his opinion they drank in the locker room
Pikey
Boston Bruins
Location: Public transportation is for j
Joined: 08.15.2009

Aug 15 @ 9:32 PM ET
Hockey season can't come fast enough.

Amirite???
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:34 PM ET
Hockey season can't come fast enough.

Amirite???

- Pikey



so rite
Pikey
Boston Bruins
Location: Public transportation is for j
Joined: 08.15.2009

Aug 15 @ 9:41 PM ET
so rite
- Don'tForgetTocchet


LOL

It's right.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 15 @ 9:44 PM ET
i really enjoyed that in his opinion they drank in the locker room
- Don'tForgetTocchet

they mixed vodka in with Gatorade
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:53 PM ET
More sad off season news...

@mirtle James Mirtle
Police confirm former Vancouver Canucks tough guy Rick Rypien has been found dead in his Alberta home. More to come.

- BringBack25


ann1130sports Ann Schmaltz
Sad news about troubled former Canucks enforcer Rick Rypien. He has taken his own life. Was to playy for the #WinnipegJets this season.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 15 @ 9:56 PM ET
I never said otherwise

But in my opinion Richards and Carter were worse then a locker room cancer, they were locker room aids and they drank way too much. Sometimes in the locker room...

- Schenn2shine



stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 15 @ 10:01 PM ET
Jvr, Briere, Giroux, and to a lesser extent Jagr and Voracek have to carry the scoring load now. If any of those guys get hurt or under performs they might have trouble making the playoffs.
- Marc D


Lucky for us we have Schenn and Nodl to fall back on if any get hurt or under perform. We also have the sleeper player of the year, Mr. Scott Hartnell. Im expecting big things out of him this season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 10:31 PM ET
ann1130sports Ann Schmaltz
Sad news about troubled former Canucks enforcer Rick Rypien. He has taken his own life. Was to playy for the #WinnipegJets this season.

- ob18


Man, such a shame. Knew he was battling demons, but had hoped he had managed to get them behind him. Hopefully he's at peace now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 10:39 PM ET
Few quick thoughts on the whole thing, one final time. Enjoy, criticize, ignore...have at her

-Richards and Carter were the two biggest names moved, but they were just 2 of 10 guys that were jettisoned. Regardless of the issues, they did not begin and end with Mike Richards and Jeff Carter.

-Despite receiving fair returns for both guys, and for Versteeg, I'm not writing either guy off. Richards, in particular could have a very big season. He'll be on a solid second line, no pressure to be the face of the team, and in a comfort zone with Stevens, Murray and Gagne around. Carter's best statistical season as a NHLer came on a line with Hartnell and Lupul-neither of whom is an especially gifted playmaker. If he finds chemistry with Nash, he could have a great season.

-Whatever the reasons, and I'm on record as feeling they are both on and off ice related, they're the past. Whatever led to the trades, I wish most of the guys who are not returning well in their new cities, especially Richards and Carter...short of beating the Flyers.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Aug 15 @ 11:52 PM ET
Few quick thoughts on the whole thing, one final time. Enjoy, criticize, ignore...have at her

-Richards and Carter were the two biggest names moved, but they were just 2 of 10 guys that were jettisoned. Regardless of the issues, they did not begin and end with Mike Richards and Jeff Carter.

-Despite receiving fair returns for both guys, and for Versteeg, I'm not writing either guy off. Richards, in particular could have a very big season. He'll be on a solid second line, no pressure to be the face of the team, and in a comfort zone with Stevens, Murray and Gagne around. Carter's best statistical season as a NHLer came on a line with Hartnell and Lupul-neither of whom is an especially gifted playmaker. If he finds chemistry with Nash, he could have a great season.

-Whatever the reasons, and I'm on record as feeling they are both on and off ice related, they're the past. Whatever led to the trades, I wish most of the guys who are not returning well in their new cities, especially Richards and Carter...short of beating the Flyers.

- Jsaquella

I don't feel anyone here has been really bashing Carter or Richards, I just feel that fans would like to know the real reasons that saw them get traded. Simple! Nobody needs to get defensive or up in arms over the opinions of others. We as fans don't have the right to know why they were really traded but we do have the right to wonder why they were traded and discuss it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 16 @ 12:03 AM ET
I don't feel anyone here has been really bashing Carter or Richards, I just feel that fans would like to know the real reasons that saw them get traded. Simple! Nobody needs to get defensive or up in arms over the opinions of others. We as fans don't have the right to know why they were really traded but we do have the right to wonder why they were traded and discuss it.
- Schenn2shine


We do have that right, but in the end it's immaterial. They're not here any longer, and we all hope that the guys brought in can make the Flyers a better team.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 16 @ 12:11 AM ET
R.I.P Rick Rypien.
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 16 @ 12:37 AM ET
haha...this picture ROCKS!




http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...AJs/s250/highway_sign.jpg

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 12:47 AM ET
R.I.P Rick Rypien.
- FLYERSROCK!

I wonder if he had CTE (from chronic brain trauma). RIP.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 16 @ 1:07 AM ET
I wonder if he had CTE (from chronic brain trauma). RIP.
- jak521

He had problems with demons and all that poop. Man tha sucks. Helluva fighter. 2 of the best fighters in the NHL gone within 4 months.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Aug 16 @ 1:15 AM ET
We do have that right, but in the end it's immaterial. They're not here any longer, and we all hope that the guys brought in can make the Flyers a better team.
- Jsaquella

I just don't understand how 'person A' could give an opinion and then 'person B' could just come out and say that 'person A' is wrong just because 'person B' says so. No real reasons as to why 'person A' is wrong, just because 'person B' feels he has that power. This doesn't make for very good conversation or debate.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:01 AM ET
I just don't understand how 'person A' could give an opinion and then 'person B' could just come out and say that 'person A' is wrong just because 'person B' says so. No real reasons as to why 'person A' is wrong, just because 'person B' feels he has that power. This doesn't make for very good conversation or debate.
- Schenn2shine


And yet it goes on for pages at a time. Go figure.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 16 @ 3:02 AM ET
God. This is freaking me out. 27 seems like the number to die at...
My goal for if I am a pro athlete, or celebrity, will be to make it past the age of 27. Then I should be fine.
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Aug 16 @ 3:38 AM ET
And yet it goes on for pages at a time. Go figure.
- tangent_man

Yes but is it good conversation or bad conversation? I was under the impression that opinions were just that opinions.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 16 @ 8:16 AM ET
And yet it goes on for pages at a time. Go figure.
- tangent_man


You should try Ambien
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 16 @ 8:18 AM ET
I just don't understand how 'person A' could give an opinion and then 'person B' could just come out and say that 'person A' is wrong just because 'person B' says so. No real reasons as to why 'person A' is wrong, just because 'person B' feels he has that power. This doesn't make for very good conversation or debate.
- Schenn2shine


Person A and Person B...Sounds like a word problem, and I hate math!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 16 @ 8:22 AM ET
We do have that right, but in the end it's immaterial. They're not here any longer, and we all hope that the guys brought in can make the Flyers a better team.
- Jsaquella


Your absolutely right. Life goes on and so with this organization. Homer tried to assemble the best team that fits the NEEDS of the Philadelphia Flyers. Some moves may be questioned (happens everywhere) and others people like. Will soon find out how good this team will be this upcoming season. I personally like the moves and expect a very competitive team out on the ice throughout the year.
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