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NJFlyersFan
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Jul 25 @ 6:37 PM ET
Note to everyone: Carter is not a 40 goal scorer.

Scoring 40 goals in 1 year does not make you a 40 goal scorer. He is a 30 goal scorer at this point.

- BradTardforGM

this makes too much sense
ob18
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Jul 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
Note to everyone: Carter is not a 40 goal scorer.

Scoring 40 goals in 1 year does not make you a 40 goal scorer. He is a 30 goal scorer at this point.

- BradTardforGM


how doesn't it make him a 40 goal scorer since he's done it.........what he has to do is score 40 consistently but you can't say he's not a 40 goal scorer.

what would be accurate is to say he's not a 50 goal scorer.
BradTardforGM
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Jul 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
how doesn't it make him a 40 goal scorer since he's done it.........what he has to do is score 40 consistently but you can't say he's not a 40 goal scorer.
- ob18


that is what i was implying by saying he is a 30 goal scorer at this point.
NJFlyersFan
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Jul 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
how doesn't it make him a 40 goal scorer since he's done it.........what he has to do is score 40 consistently but you can't say he's not a 40 goal scorer.

what would be accurate is to say he's not a 50 goal scorer.

- ob18

ok so cheechoo is an elite player cause he scored over 50 once
BradTardforGM
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Jul 25 @ 6:45 PM ET
how doesn't it make him a 40 goal scorer since he's done it.........what he has to do is score 40 consistently but you can't say he's not a 40 goal scorer.

what would be accurate is to say he's not a 50 goal scorer.

- ob18


jonathan cheechoo is... and last i checked he is a UFA. so we should sign him. who wouldnt want a 50 goal scorer.
lukin
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Jul 25 @ 6:46 PM ET
how doesn't it make him a 40 goal scorer since he's done it.........what he has to do is score 40 consistently but you can't say he's not a 40 goal scorer.

what would be accurate is to say he's not a 50 goal scorer.

- ob18



some people think marty biron is a quality goaltender as well cause he was top 20 in save percentage 2 years ago, does that make him a quality tender?

ob18
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Jul 25 @ 6:46 PM ET
ok so cheechoo is an elite player cause he scored over 50 once
- NJFlyersFan


Nothing in what I said mentioned the word elite..........But yes Cheechoo is a 50 goal scorer..........That was all he pretty much did but when you hear people mention him in articles they do say the 1 time 50 goal scorer.

Duran76
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Jul 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
that is what i was implying by saying he is a 30 goal scorer at this point.
- BradTardforGM


in all fairness, he averaged 39.5 the last two years.
NJFlyersFan
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Jul 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
Nothing in what I said mentioned the word elite..........But yes Cheechoo is a 50 goal scorer..........That was all he pretty much did but when you hear people mention him in articles they do say the 1 time 50 goal scorer.
- ob18

and that makes him good?
ob18
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Jul 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
that is what i was implying by saying he is a 30 goal scorer at this point.
- BradTardforGM



he is both a 30 goal scorer and 40 since he's done both.
NJFlyersFan
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Jul 25 @ 6:48 PM ET
in all fairness, he averaged 39.5 the last two years.
- Duran76

how many years has he played in the nhl?
ob18
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Jul 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
and that makes him good?
- NJFlyersFan


Based on your perception of a good player nobody is good. And again I never said he was good, way to take everything that isn't in the post and go the other way with it.
NJFlyersFan
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Jul 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
Based on your perception of a good player nobody is good.
- ob18

richards, pronger, carle, gagne, giroux are alll good
BradTardforGM
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Jul 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
in all fairness, he averaged 39.5 the last two years.
- Duran76


ok, but 2 years isnt a long time. if it were 39.5 for the last 5 or 6, i wouldnt have a problem with labeling him a 40 goal scorer. hes just over 30 for his careeer.
ob18
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Jul 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
some people think marty biron is a quality goaltender as well cause he was top 20 in save percentage 2 years ago, does that make him a quality tender?
- lukin


Maybe backup sure. But if teams really felt that way he wouldn't have ended up as a backup for the Islanders last year and now for the Rangers.
Duran76
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Jul 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
how many years has he played in the nhl?
- NJFlyersFan



finish reading my post. i mention only the last two years
MJL
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Jul 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
that is what i was implying by saying he is a 30 goal scorer at this point.
- BradTardforGM


He was well on his way to scoring high 30's last year before being hurt. It is accurate to say that Carter is a 40 goals scorer. It is accurate to state that Carter can be expected to score 40 goals.

But thanks for the note.
lukin
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Jul 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
in all fairness, he averaged 39.5 the last two years.
- Duran76



lets look at his career where he averages 29 a year
Duran76
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Jul 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
ok, but 2 years isnt a long time. if it were 39.5 for the last 5 or 6, i wouldnt have a problem with labeling him a 40 goal scorer. hes just over 30 for his careeer.
- BradTardforGM



at 25 years old
ob18
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Jul 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
richards, pronger, carle, gagne, giroux are alll good
- NJFlyersFan



I take pretty much nothing you say serious. When you can present a worthwhile arguement to change that I might change my thought on it.
lukin
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Jul 25 @ 6:53 PM ET
Maybe backup sure. But if teams really felt that way he wouldn't have ended up as a backup for the Islanders last year and now for the Rangers.
- ob18



That is my point -- we are posters on a hockey board, we have no knowledge or any idea of the inner workings of teams and player evaluations, so both sides need to get off their high horses and remember they are as dumb as the rest of us


God Bless Festivus!
NJFlyersFan
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Jul 25 @ 6:53 PM ET
I take pretty much nothing you say serious. When you can present a worthwhile arguement to change that I might change my thought on it.
- ob18

you don't think those players are good? LOL
ob18
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Jul 25 @ 6:55 PM ET
you don't think those players are good? LOL
- NJFlyersFan


Again where did I say they weren't but to leave Carter out is absurd.
Duran76
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Jul 25 @ 6:55 PM ET
lets look at his career where he averages 29 a year
- lukin


In my opinion, the last two years better represent what we can expect out of Carter in his prime
lukin
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Jul 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
He was well on his way to scoring high 30's last year before being hurt. It is accurate to say that Carter is a 40 goals scorer. It is accurate to state that Carter can be expected to score 40 goals.

But thanks for the note.

- MJL



Please prove that he would of scored in the high 30s or 40 goals! He scored 40 once in 5 years so I am pretty sure he isnt the next brett Hull, he may welll end up being the next Val Bure before its all done and over with.

He missed 8 games and would of had to average a goal every .875 games --- not happening, especially with how inconsistent he, and the team played all season
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