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Forums :: Blog World :: Shawn Gates: "What if...?" #1: What if the NHL Contracted to 24 Teams?
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fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 27 @ 8:59 PM ET
OK.... dude... Blues fan to fellow Blues Fan....

I know you hate the Red Wings. I do too. All Blues fans do. I get it. Really. But c'mon... Bandwagon??? Really?!?!? They've only been on this little run for A QUARTER OF A CENTURY!!!

Let's be reasonable. You're a Blues fan... you're smarter than that...

- BluesFan44


hey i can dream cant i? i dont seriously think the wings will get dissolved, but they will definitely be hurting for attendance when the on ice performance drops off.
BluesFan44
St Louis Blues
Location: The Man-Cave, taking a Prozac
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 27 @ 9:00 PM ET
I got an idea....

Whichever teams finish last in each division that year go bye-bye!

Talk about "There's No Tomorrow!!" :D
Shawn Gates
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jul 27 @ 9:06 PM ET
I just want to say to everyone that I think it's great that a conversation like this has stayed quite respectful into it's third page!! Kudos to you all! Now what about a Canadian team going? Can no one envision a scenario where this would happen?
keslover17
Dallas Stars
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 05.13.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:09 PM ET
I just want to say to everyone that I think it's great that a conversation like this has stayed quite respectful into it's third page!! Kudos to you all! Now what about a Canadian team going? Can no one envision a scenario where this would happen?
- shawn_gates

Yea, when oil is lesser used the oilsands of northern Alberta will begin to not matter so much, therefore causing the city of Edmonton to need help, snowballing into a lack of a franchise for the "city of champions"
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 27 @ 9:09 PM ET
I just want to say to everyone that I think it's great that a conversation like this has stayed quite respectful into it's third page!! Kudos to you all! Now what about a Canadian team going? Can no one envision a scenario where this would happen?
- shawn_gates




The League forces Toronto to disband because they are getting tired of 6 straight cups and they think it's only fair to let somebody else win it?
londondave
Location: The largest unserved hockey ma
Joined: 07.05.2009

Jul 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
I just want to say to everyone that I think it's great that a conversation like this has stayed quite respectful into it's third page!! Kudos to you all! Now what about a Canadian team going? Can no one envision a scenario where this would happen?
- shawn_gates



I did a few posts ago, if the Canadian dollar sinks, but while the Canadian dollar is over .80, even the weakest teams financially (Sorry to kick Edmonton while they are going through a recruitment problem, and Ottawa) can generate enough revenue to keep them in the top-24. They won't be making Leaf/Hab type of revenue, but I can't see them being in the bottom six or eight while the CAD is this high (Or, I should sadly say, while the USD is so low).

Plus, as much as I love to bash Bettman, I truly believe he would do everything to prevent a "make it five" campaign. (If for no other reason than to avoid trying to explain it to Ron Maclean on HNIC).

But, I am looking through Canadian lenses, so I may be wrong. Thoughts?
Martin Cinzar
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
Atlanta. Management in shambles. Low fan interest. Lousy attendance
Phoenix. How can you keep losing money. The bleeding has to stop. Let Balsillie move the team already.
Florida. One team in Florida maybe.
Tampa. No. No teams in Florida
New York Islanders. Low attendance. JT is going to give them a small boost. This is my riskiest pick because they could turn it around.
Nashville: It doesn't have the cash to do it right. The on ice team is great, they just can't put bums in seats. Another low attendance figure.

Buffalo relocates to Hamilton. Solves the Sabers biggest problem not enough cash to keep it's players.

If I could I'd relocate one of the teams into Southern Ontario, But I believe Bettman and the other owners are too greedy and just want the expansion fee.
Then I would have to pick another team and it would be Colorodo. Sakic is gone.
The decisions get tough around 5 and 6.

doormat247
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 27 @ 9:14 PM ET
I'll go...

Atlanta
Florida
Phoenix
Tampa Bay
NY Islanders
Nashville

No particular order.

Moot point though as I don'tsee this ever...ever...happening.
Martin Cinzar
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:14 PM ET
I got an idea....

Whichever teams finish last in each division that year go bye-bye!

Talk about "There's No Tomorrow!!" :D

- BluesFan44


I like it. Relegate the team to the AHL like they do in soccer.
londondave
Location: The largest unserved hockey ma
Joined: 07.05.2009

Jul 27 @ 9:18 PM ET
I like it. Relegate the team to the AHL like they do in soccer.
- Martin Cinzar


Can't wait to see the Leafs-Marlies games!
CanesRallyCry
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:19 PM ET
Florida
Atlanta
Phoenix (These three are obvious)
New York Islanders (Tons of history, but things just don't seem to be working on the island anymore)
Carolina (Fans only get excited when the team's winning)
Nashville (I know I'll be unpopular for this one, but c'est la vie)

- keslover17


Do you live in NC?
Kevin27NYI
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 08.01.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
nashville
florida
atlanta
pheonix
buffalo
tampa

i was going to say all the canadien teams but thought no one would get the joke
islanderbuzz
New York Islanders
Location: east moriches, NY
Joined: 11.28.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
with the positive lighthouse news today and the isles on the up swing i am disgusted with some people even putting the nyi in ther posts
cdn_ginger
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 12.04.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
Top eight per conference make the playoffs, with the division winners taking spots one, two and three (same as today).
Eastern Conference

North- East Division
NY Rangers
Boston
Philly
New Jersey

East Division
Detroit
Pittsburgh
Washington
Tampa

Canada East Division
Toronto
Montreal
Ottawa
Hamilton - Balsille gets the Coyotes, loses money for a year then brings them North

Western Conference

West Division
LA
Anaheim
San Jose
Dallas

Midwest Division
Minnesota
St. Louis
Chicago
Columbus

Canada West Division
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Winnipeg - Nashville can't support the team, they are bought and moved North

OUT
NY Islanders - No new arena, Not enough fan support
Atlanta - Not enough fan support, Not a hockey market
Buffalo - New team in Hamilton, Border crossing issues , lose their Canadian fans
Florida - Not enough fan support in Florida for two teams
Phoenix - Lose 20 million for another year then Balsille brings them to Hamilton
Nashville - Not enough fan support, Not a hockey market
Colorado - Only get support when they are winning, Dushene/Statsny not enough
jakenewton
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Leaf fans still waiting for a , BC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:24 PM ET
with the positive lighthouse news today and the isles on the up swing i am disgusted with some people even putting the nyi in ther posts
- islanderbuzz



its true.......if they dont get a new arena they are toast,
islanderbuzz
New York Islanders
Location: east moriches, NY
Joined: 11.28.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:25 PM ET
i really think its going to happen
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 27 @ 9:29 PM ET
its true.......if they dont get a new arena they are toast,
- jakenewton


true. see - brooklyn dodgers. it can happen.
personally, i would hate to see it, the islanders are my favorite eastern conference team.
danielmacd
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.03.2005

Jul 27 @ 9:29 PM ET
Carolina - If you are an NHL team and you are in the playoffs and still losing money you should not be an NHL team

Atlanta - If you have only made the playoffs once in team history and have done nothing to endear any fan following in a not hockey market you should not be in the NHL.

Phoenix - If you are in bankruptcy court and play in a city where more people are interested in watching Spga tour events then you should not be in the NHL

Tampa Bay, Panthers - If you are a team in florida and only have had one memorable season to speak of in your history then you should not be in the NHL.

New York Islanders - If your team viability depends on the approval of a monstrous development that will be funded through public money and a crazy owner then you are SOL and there are two other teams in the area that are better then you should not be in the NHL

Finally Nashville should move to Canada.



jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
Kick out any team that has not won a Stanley Cup.

Or any team that has not one a Stanley Cup since 1968... you know who you are...
islanderbuzz
New York Islanders
Location: east moriches, NY
Joined: 11.28.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
true. see - brooklyn dodgers. it can happen.
personally, i would hate to see it, the islanders are my favorite eastern conference team.

- fattyboubatty

jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:31 PM ET
Carolina - If you are an NHL team and you are in the playoffs and still losing money you should not be an NHL team

Atlanta - If you have only made the playoffs once in team history and have done nothing to endear any fan following in a not hockey market you should not be in the NHL.

Phoenix - If you are in bankruptcy court and play in a city where more people are interested in watching Spga tour events then you should not be in the NHL

Tampa Bay, Panthers - If you are a team in florida and only have had one memorable season to speak of in your history then you should not be in the NHL.

New York Islanders - If your team viability depends on the approval of a monstrous development that will be funded through public money and a crazy owner then you are SOL and there are two other teams in the area that are better then you should not be in the NHL

Finally Nashville should move to Canada.

- danielmacd



You really know nothing about the LightHouse Project, or the Isles.
SabresOnAWarpath
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:32 PM ET
People that think Buffalo should be out don't know fuc k about hockey. We have been in the top 5 in attendance since the lockout. Over 5,000 people have payed 100 dollers on the season tickit waiting list. Our season tickits are up to 15,000 know and you would rather get rid of a team that has never won yet still shows passion for thier team. If you lived here you would know but seriously we love, breath, sleep, and eat hockey here just like a Canadien team. But the 13,000 crowds on the Island are great, so is Carolina and there fan base. If you truly believe Buffalo should be out then you prob need a reality check or something because then you don't know what's right for hockey. If Pitt is still a team then BUFFALo will always be a team. They are hockeytown USA along w Minn, DEt, and Philly. We are holding the wjc in 2010 and hosted the first winter classic but according to some really stupid fans on this board we don't deserve a team more then Tampa or Florida. This is a complete JOKE!
islanderbuzz
New York Islanders
Location: east moriches, NY
Joined: 11.28.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:32 PM ET
Carolina - If you are an NHL team and you are in the playoffs and still losing money you should not be an NHL team

Atlanta - If you have only made the playoffs once in team history and have done nothing to endear any fan following in a not hockey market you should not be in the NHL.

Phoenix - If you are in bankruptcy court and play in a city where more people are interested in watching Spga tour events then you should not be in the NHL

Tampa Bay, Panthers - If you are a team in florida and only have had one memorable season to speak of in your history then you should not be in the NHL.

New York Islanders - If your team viability depends on the approval of a monstrous development that will be funded through public money and a crazy owner then you are SOL and there are two other teams in the area that are better then you should not be in the NHL

Finally Nashville should move to Canada.

- danielmacd
i dont think there is that much public money involved
FirstClass
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 03.06.2009

Jul 27 @ 9:33 PM ET
If bettman is still running the league then Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver will get booted out
- requester47

You Canadians are ingrates, Bettman helped save Vancouver and Edmonton when your dollar was weak but please continue to be mis-informed.
keslover17
Dallas Stars
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 05.13.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:33 PM ET
Do you live in NC?
- CanesRallyCry

No I do not. Compare the numbers from 06, after the lockout, to 07 right after winning the cup, to before the lockout. The year before the lockout they had just over 12k on average. Now they're at 16.5k, down from 17.3k two years ago and slightly down from 16.6k a year ago. Are they the worst? No, however currently the worst has no FLA teams either on a strict numbers basis.
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