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StanleyCupDreams
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Hockey Mecca , ON
Joined: 01.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 1:59 PM ET
His goals yeah!

But.. Grabovski would have never done it in a Habs jersey. We never had the room for him and his attitude was not welcomed.

I said when he got traded. IT was a great pick up for a LEafs squad that can take risks. This kid is a pocket Datsuyk and the talent is really there.



- WaterBoy


Its scary what Grabs would of done with the talent on Montreal... he just recently started playing on the power play... but correct me I'm wrong but wasn't Montreal rebuilding up untill this year... so why could they take a chance on a player like him??

I agree with your previous statement. This club and fans are hyped into a situation. Looking from the outside gives the impression that they are simply not working hard and doing it right.


In English we call this Overated !!

StanleyCupDreams
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Hockey Mecca , ON
Joined: 01.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:01 PM ET
He didn't spend all 25 games on the 4th line. He spent a solid chunk on the 3rd line too. If a player is given a 25-game look (regardless of where he's playing), and doesn't impress enough to crack the top-3 lines, then yes, I'd say he was given a shot, deemed not good enough to displace one of the incumbents, and shipped out.
- mcmanmat


So I guess Latendresse gets the extended Look ???
_jeff_
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 12.28.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:03 PM ET

Admit it though, Grabovski's 10 goals would be okay considering what his Belarussian brother's are doing this year...

- Deeps27


lol you've got a point
I'd still take Plekanec and Koivu over grabovsky to center lines 1-2.
Not sure if i'd prefer lang or grabovsky on the 3rd, lang brings a veteran presence and stability in the line up, he plays pp, pk, but is way slower than grabovsky...
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
So I guess Latendresse gets the extended Look ???
- StanleyCupDreams


I think the Tenderness issue has been beaten to death.
100/25= The Habs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 07.15.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
So I guess Latendresse gets the extended Look ???
- StanleyCupDreams


He gets the extended look because after being benched/scratched he still reports to the plane or rink. Also the fact that he's french canadian doesn't hurt either.
Apocalypse71
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.19.2007

Dec 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
He gets the extended look because after being benched/scratched he still reports to the plane or rink. Also the fact that he's french canadian doesn't hurt either.
- 100/25= The Habs



That and the habs are loaded with smallish forwards...Tendresse is also what, 4 yrs younger...
StanleyCupDreams
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Hockey Mecca , ON
Joined: 01.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
He gets the extended look because after being benched/scratched he still reports to the plane or rink. Also the fact that he's french canadian doesn't hurt either.
- 100/25= The Habs


Maybe its because he accepts being a fourth liner and doesn't believe he can be better!!

The whole french thing is PR crap.... same reason we kept Domi and belfour... its an anchor and a curse!
100/25= The Habs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 07.15.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
That and the habs are loaded with smallish forwards...Tendresse is also what, 4 yrs younger...
- Apocalypse71


good points too
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Dec 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
Maybe its because he accepts being a fourth liner and doesn't believe he can be better!!

The whole french thing is PR crap.... same reason we kept Domi and belfour... its an anchor and a curse!

- StanleyCupDreams


I'll be a lot more impressed by Grabovski when he's not playing for a contract and performs.
StanleyCupDreams
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Hockey Mecca , ON
Joined: 01.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
I'll be a lot more impressed by Grabovski when he's not playing for a contract and performs.
- habby


So will I... at least he doesn't have the Kovy contract year disease
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Dec 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
So will I... at least he doesn't have the Kovy contract year disease
- StanleyCupDreams


Kovalev thought last season was a contract year.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:32 PM ET
And by out of place do you mean he hasn't skated onto the ice wearing his home Jersey on the road?

Breezer has been fair to mediocre at best.

- habby


Still better than Ryan O'Bourde

African_Fanatic
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ottawa, ON
Joined: 02.18.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
Kovalev thought last season was a contract year.
- habby




I hope we trade kovalev by deadline cuz i don't believe Gainey will give him a contract. I like kovalev on the habs but i hope we can trade or sign a younger forward instead IMO.
Connor603
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Legen....wait for it.... dary
Joined: 01.16.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:40 PM ET
Its scary what Grabs would of done with the talent on Montreal... he just recently started playing on the power play... but correct me I'm wrong but wasn't Montreal rebuilding up untill this year... so why could they take a chance on a player like him??



In English we call this Overated !!

- StanleyCupDreams

Wait... once Sundin comes back he will sulk and run away to Russia. Just you wait.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Dec 2 @ 2:45 PM ET
Still better than Ryan O'Bourde


- stinger67


I disagree. O'Byrne make mistakes out of inexperience, Breezer out of lack of hockey sense.

stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:55 PM ET
I disagree. O'Byrne make mistakes out of inexperience, Breezer out of lack of hockey sense.
- habby


I can honestly say that O'Byrne was directly responsible for at least one goal against every game he played this year.

I think neither of those two are a good option...but we don't have much choice now, do we?

O'Byrne will get better with experience, I just question if we can afford to have him get this experience this year...
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:56 PM ET
lol you've got a point
I'd still take Plekanec and Koivu over grabovsky to center lines 1-2.
Not sure if i'd prefer lang or grabovsky on the 3rd, lang brings a veteran presence and stability in the line up, he plays pp, pk, but is way slower than grabovsky...

- _jeff_


you guys realize that Grabovsky was traded to TO for the rights to talk to Sundin before July 1st.........right?????
100/25= The Habs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 07.15.2008

Dec 2 @ 2:59 PM ET
you guys realize that Grabovsky was traded to TO for the rights to talk to Sundin before July 1st.........right?????
- pete26


he was traded for a 2nd rounder and a defensive prospect
CH1909-2009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Nothing officer, just PKing my Subban
Joined: 10.10.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
he was traded for a 2nd rounder and a defensive prospect
- 100/25= The Habs


And the right to early negotiations with Sundin.... which incidentally may still come to fruition albeit after some wrestling with cap issues
mcmanmat
Montreal Canadiens
Location: hey assface I used that locati
Joined: 10.16.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
you guys realize that Grabovsky was traded to TO for the rights to talk to Sundin before July 1st.........right?????
- pete26


No, Montreal was given exclusive negotiating rights, and had they struck a deal, THEN some sort of undisclosed compensation would have gone to Toronto. Rumour has it that compensation was Grabovski, but nobody seems willing to admit it. Trading for him later for a 2nd rd pick makes it smell fishy too.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
And the right to early negotiations with Sundin.... which incidentally may still come to fruition albeit after some wrestling with cap issues
- CH1909-2009


I may be wrong on this, but I still believe that we would've had to give something back to the Leafs IF Sundin had signed with us. The Grabovski trade was something else completely apart from the Sundin story.
_jeff_
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 12.28.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
he was traded for a 2nd rounder and a defensive prospect
- 100/25= The Habs


... and that 2nd rounder was traded for lang
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
And the right to early negotiations with Sundin.... which incidentally may still come to fruition albeit after some wrestling with cap issues
- CH1909-2009

TO got nothing for the rights to negotiate with Sundin.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:10 PM ET
I may be wrong on this, but I still believe that we would've had to give something back to the Leafs IF Sundin had signed with us. The Grabovski trade was something else completely apart from the Sundin story.
- stinger67

That's main point
_jeff_
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 12.28.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
I may be wrong on this, but I still believe that we would've had to give something back to the Leafs IF Sundin had signed with us. The Grabovski trade was something else completely apart from the Sundin story.
- stinger67


I read (for what it's worth) that Fletcher wanted grabovsky if sundin would've signed.
Since it didn't work out, he managed to get him otherwise
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