Something is off with this canes team. As much as I want them to win, I see this being rangers in 6

That’s roughing huh?

Two behind the back passes successively for the rangers to slam dunk a PP goal. I wonder if Rocky Thompson can thought process such a concept

That’s roughing huh?
- Dkos

Canes got away with not getting two penalties there. Imo should’ve been a 5 on 3

Cup winning #1 centers and defenseman and where they were drafted, last 15 years

Vegas:
Eichel - 2
Pietrangelo - 4

Colorado:
Mackinnon - 1
Makar - 4

Tampa:
Stamkos - 1
Hedman - 2
Point - 79

St. Louis:
Pietrangelo - 4
O’Rielly - 33

Washington:
Backstrom - 4
Carlsson - 27
Kuznetsov - 26

Pittsburgh:
Crosby - 1
Malkin - 2
Letang - 62
Gonchar - 14

Chicago:
Toews - 3
Keith - 54

Los Angeles:
Doughty - 2
Kopitar - 11

Detroit:
Datsyuk - 171
Lidstrom - 53

Anaheim:
Pronger - 2
Niedermeyer - 3
Getzlaf - 19

Carolina:
Staal - 2
Hedican - 198

Every team has had at least 1 of those positions filled with a top 4 pick except ‘08 Red Wings. And let’s be honest, in today’s world, with higher focus on international scouting, there’s no way Datsyuk and Lidstrom fall that far. Also, all the teams left in the playoffs. Each has a former top 5 pick on their team and only on Boston are they not an impact player (JVR).

Cup winning #1 centers and defenseman and where they were drafted, last 15 years

Vegas:
Eichel - 2
Pietrangelo - 4

Colorado:
Mackinnon - 1
Makar - 4

Tampa:
Stamkos - 1
Hedman - 2
Point - 79

St. Louis:
Pietrangelo - 4
O’Rielly - 33

Washington:
Backstrom - 4
Carlsson - 27
Kuznetsov - 26

Pittsburgh:
Crosby - 1
Malkin - 2
Letang - 62
Gonchar - 14

Chicago:
Toews - 3
Keith - 54

Los Angeles:
Doughty - 2
Kopitar - 11

Detroit:
Datsyuk - 171
Lidstrom - 53

Anaheim:
Pronger - 2
Niedermeyer - 3
Getzlaf - 19

Carolina:
Staal - 2
Hedican - 198

Every team has had at least 1 of those positions filled with a top 4 pick except ‘08 Red Wings. And let’s be honest, in today’s world, with higher focus on international scouting, there’s no way Datsyuk and Lidstrom fall that far. Also, all the teams left in the playoffs. Each has a former top 5 pick on their team and only on Boston are they not an impact player (JVR).
- Schmojo

Pitt was such a force when they had Crosby, Malkin and staal down the middle

Two behind the back passes successively for the rangers to slam dunk a PP goal. I wonder if Rocky Thompson can thought process such a concept
- Just5

Look at the breakout pattern on the first Rangers goal and the design of it. The design of the play on the Pasternak OT goal last night. All quality coaching well executed. Not only do the Flyers not have the talent but offensively, the Flyers coaching staff is extremely deficient.

Canes got away with not getting two penalties there. Imo should’ve been a 5 on 3
- Just5

I didn’t think the hit was so bad. Maybe if they had just called it when it happened rather doing that whole review thing it wouldn’t have bothered me.

Teams who have never played a NHL game in the month of June

Kraken
Wild
Blue Jackets
Coyotes

and



Leafs

Something is off with this canes team. As much as I want them to win, I see this being rangers in 6
- Just5

Andersen gives up to many softies. Still Brind'Amour 👃 teams is hard to kill off.

Andersen gives up to many softies. Still Brind'Amour 👃 teams is hard to kill off.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Yea, that Panarin goal was leaky. Canes PK needs to be better. That roughing call on Angelo was BS.

Look at the breakout pattern on the first Rangers goal and the design of it. The design of the play on the Pasternak OT goal last night. All quality coaching well executed. Not only do the Flyers not have the talent but offensively, the Flyers coaching staff is extremely deficient.
- MJL

I thought that you were going to go an entire day without taking a shot at Torts. Oh well...tomorrow is another day.

Why can't the Flyers have a guy like Wyatt Johnston? That young dude can play the game!! Canes could be in trouble. Can't have leaky goals this time of year cause it leads to one goal losses galore. Rags have goaltending advantage and that may indeed be the difference in that series.

I thought that you were going to go an entire day without taking a shot at Torts. Oh well...tomorrow is another day.
- Phillywhiteout

I never had a doubt that you would not go a day without posting something stupid.

I never had a doubt that you would not go a day without posting something stupid.
- MJL

Why do you give me a hard time every time I give you a hard time?

Something is off with this canes team. As much as I want them to win, I see this being rangers in 6
- Just5

These are 2 polar opposite offensive strategical teams. Canes are happy to throw as many puck as they can at the net hoping for a deflection or a bounce. Rangers on the other hand work for the best possible shot. Sometimes Rangers pass to much and sometimes Canes dont work hard for the best quality shots..Have seen both strategies be successful. If Canes get bounces or if Rangers overpass Canes win. If Rangers are free to create and get get quality opportunities they win. This series is going 7

Why can't the Flyers have a guy like Wyatt Johnston? That young dude can play the game!! Canes could be in trouble. Can't have leaky goals this time of year cause it leads to one goal losses galore. Rags have goaltending advantage and that may indeed be the difference in that series.
- Phillywhiteout

What’s interesting is, due to Covid, Johnston (0 OHL games) and Stankoven (6 WHL games) barely played at all during their draft year. The U18’s were the only real viewing that season. Then, you have Jason Robertson, who was awesome on a not so great Kingston team but had questionable skating. If you look back at all of their draft profiles they were all considered high risk prospects and ranked in the early to mid 2nd round. Dallas took the risks and hit big.

For most of the Hextall era he drafted players mostly considered safe, 2-way, players. And you can see that in the Flyers organizational makeup today. The players they hit on are middle of the lineup players.

For as bad as Fletcher was, he and Flahr knew they needed to take some risks and said as much in press conferences. Players like Foerster, Brink, and Tuomalla were riskier picks. The Foerster pick looks like it’s going to work out. Even Gauthier wasn’t a slam dunk, especially with the desire to move him to center. There were many who had him projected as a 2nd line wing or 3rd line center in the Chris Kreider mold. He progressed quite a bit post draft to where he’s considered a possible 1st line LW or 2nd line center.

I hope Briere drafts high risk/high reward players. If he does, maybe in a fews years the Flyers will have similar types of players as Dallas. I just wonder where they’re going to get their Heiskanen?

What’s interesting is, due to Covid, Johnston (0 OHL games) and Stankoven (6 WHL games) barely played at all during their draft year. The U18’s were the only real viewing that season. Then, you have Jason Robertson, who was awesome on a not so great Kingston team but had questionable skating. If you look back at all of their draft profiles they were all considered high risk prospects and ranked in the early to mid 2nd round. Dallas took the risks and hit big.

For most of the Hextall era he drafted players mostly considered safe, 2-way, players. And you can see that in the Flyers organizational makeup today. The players they hit on are middle of the lineup players.

For as bad as Fletcher was, he and Flahr knew they needed to take some risks and said as much in press conferences. Players like Foerster, Brink, and Tuomalla were riskier picks. The Foerster pick looks like it’s going to work out. Even Gauthier wasn’t a slam dunk, especially with the desire to move him to center. There were many who had him projected as a 2nd line wing or 3rd line center in the Chris Kreider mold. He progressed quite a bit post draft to where he’s considered a possible 1st line LW or 2nd line center.

I hope Briere drafts high risk/high reward players. If he does, maybe in a fews years the Flyers will have similar types of players as Dallas. I just wonder where they’re going to get their Heiskanen?
- Schmojo

Drysdale? York?

What’s interesting is, due to Covid, Johnston (0 OHL games) and Stankoven (6 WHL games) barely played at all during their draft year. The U18’s were the only real viewing that season. Then, you have Jason Robertson, who was awesome on a not so great Kingston team but had questionable skating. If you look back at all of their draft profiles they were all considered high risk prospects and ranked in the early to mid 2nd round. Dallas took the risks and hit big.

For most of the Hextall era he drafted players mostly considered safe, 2-way, players. And you can see that in the Flyers organizational makeup today. The players they hit on are middle of the lineup players.

For as bad as Fletcher was, he and Flahr knew they needed to take some risks and said as much in press conferences. Players like Foerster, Brink, and Tuomalla were riskier picks. The Foerster pick looks like it’s going to work out. Even Gauthier wasn’t a slam dunk, especially with the desire to move him to center. There were many who had him projected as a 2nd line wing or 3rd line center in the Chris Kreider mold. He progressed quite a bit post draft to where he’s considered a possible 1st line LW or 2nd line center.

I hope Briere drafts high risk/high reward players. If he does, maybe in a fews years the Flyers will have similar types of players as Dallas. I just wonder where they’re going to get their Heiskanen?
- Schmojo

Start by not drafting another Nolan Patrick two picks before. That would be a start.

Start by not drafting another Nolan Patrick two picks before. That would be a start.

- landros 2

Barring another lottery win they won’t get that opportunity, which is my point. Also, Heiskanen and even Makar were not consensus top 5 picks, whereas Patrick was consistently considered the top prospect for a few years until Hischier had an awesome WJC that year. Patrick was the “safe” pick. My overall point is you can miss just as much making the “safe” pick as you can making the “high risk” pick but at least with the high risk pick you have the potential of the high reward.

Saw this quote tonight from Matthews

"This is as tight as the group as I've been a part of here. And I feel like we say that every year, but I mean, it truly was an incredible group, incredibly tight. And the way we stuck together through the ups and downs of the regular season and postseason, as tight as the group as I've been a part of."

Great locker room camaraderie doesn’t mean much when you don’t have a 1C or many high end defenseman. Flyers should take note of that.

Drysdale? York?
- 2Real

That would be amazing if they developed into 1Ds but I don’t see it.

That's fair. I believe Michkov will be here by next summer at the latest. I expect Briere to continue to build the roster around Michkov before he gets here. So I agree with you, Briere will make somewhat significant changes to the roster this summer. I do believe the Zegras rumor that they are interested. No idea if Briere can get the deal over the line.
- Trox88

What would you trade for Z?

I watched the FLA-NYR game. What a pleasure to watch real hockey. Great skaters on both teams, even the NYR goon can skate. Both teams willing to go east-west and even backward as opposed to Tortorella's "right-straight ahead forward" system.

I don’t see what the big deal is letting him play on his last year. Guentzel just did it. Others have done it. TK can do it
- Just5

Except, its the Flyers. They have a way of (frank)ing everything up so the less distractions the better.