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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

May 4 @ 2:30 PM ET
You must be watching Swdedn game too.
- wiz1901


No...Paul's just prone to random outbursts.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

May 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
While people complain about his edges he just keeps putting pucks in the net. I was in on lindstrom but have a red flag now with his back issues… at 17. Not good.
- LFS

Think Eric Daze, maybe?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
Think Eric Daze, maybe?
- bjphawkfan


That's exactly who i thought of, no thanks.

Back issues that young are not good. If he fell to the second pick, I'd think about it (and don't tell me its impossible with a potential back issue) depending on what my Docs told me, but even then, I'm pretty sure I'd shy away.


Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

May 4 @ 3:41 PM ET
I’m good with whoever they get as long as he can play when it gets tough. I don’t want to see dainty regular season perimeter players.
- paulr


So… you’re saying no lavender sniffers?

Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

May 4 @ 3:42 PM ET
That's exactly who i thought of, no thanks.

Back issues that young are not good. If he fell to the second pick, I'd think about it (and don't tell me its impossible with a potential back issue) depending on what my Docs told me, but even then, I'm pretty sure I'd shy away.

- vabeachbear


Eric Daze was drafted in the 4th rd - 90th overall. For some reason I thought he was a higher pick?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 4 @ 4:03 PM ET
On a positive note

https://www.sportsvideo.o...an-engagement-in-decades/

Good news for the NHL, i never really understood why the NHL didn't make a deal work with espn last time. I think the 2 are good for each other. With all the young talent coming into the league and better coverage and the southern teams making the playoffs all good signs for the NHL future.

- BetweenTheDots


Good link. Did I read that correctly that the league played to 97% capacity?? Would never have thought that was even possible. ........ Don't follow this stuff much but I'm assuming this is good for the players and the cap. And looking at the probable compensation of the free agents this yr, BM posted that link, the GM's are gonna need lotsa dough to work with. Lotta landmines out there and a GM can only step on a couple/few of them and not badly hurt the club.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
Who is considered the most complete defenseman right now? Richardinson or Levshunov? If they stay at 2, that’s the guy I think they pick.
k

- Chunk


I'm as big a D!ckinson guy as there is. Been tuning into London games all yr and this kid is damn near a complete package right now. He checks every box to a high degree but I can't say he's more complete than Buium. Buium faced much tougher competition and still looked poised and skilled.

If I had to name can't miss prospects in this draft I'd have to include D!ckinson and Buium along with Celebrini. ...... I just don't know how a GM could pass up on either if they don't have the #1 pick. They're that good to my eye.

Watching D!ckenson, though, and imagining him as a Hawk for 10 yrs is a helluva dopamine hit. You don't have to squint to see a better skating more skilled Shea Weber.

Now with Levshinov you have to project a bit, he's not where D!ckinson or Buium is at yet. IIRC Levshunov was the youngest NCAA player. So he's younger than both D!ckinson and like Buium played better competition than Major Junior can provide.

But he's a big, right shot Dman who is probably rated a plus skater. Takes his zone seriously and has some offensive ability...... I'm sure many scouts project him to the D!ckinson Buium level as pros, but again he's not at their level, yet.

All different in style, Buium being silky but in no way weakish/soft. So, it will be a preference thing IMO where the the Dmen go.... First pairing Dmen, man. Gold, and if a GM sees that no matter what the slot is he probably can't help himself but to take him.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

May 4 @ 5:16 PM ET
Eric Daze was drafted in the 4th rd - 90th overall. For some reason I thought he was a higher pick?
- Chief4Feathers


Well he played like a higher pick for a while, until his back flared up.

And he was drafted with the pick they got for Hasek, so.... there's that
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 4 @ 5:28 PM ET

I was in on lindstrom but have a red flag now with his back issues… at 17. Not good.

- LFS


Honest question. Have you seen any published reporting that says Lindstrom has a back injury/problem? I have not If you've read something link us up. .......

Well, guess I was missing reports. Searching his injury led me to the Athletic, but there are multiple links. A back is mentioned along with a broken hand.

https://theathletic.com/5...lindstrom-nhl-draft-2024/

"Lindstrom had dealt with multiple injuries in the second half of the season. He broke a hand in the middle of the season, and has also been dealing with symptoms of a back injury. Lindstrom returned in time for Game 1 of Medicine Hat’s playoff opener but looked off in the series".

Same article published April 11th show Catton was injured too.

Catton had been dealing with hip issues during the season, which were also lingering in Spokane’s playoff opener against Prince George. He will not require surgery but will be shut down while he recovers.

Catton is a 5-foot-10 center with dynamic speed and skill. He scored 54 goals and 116 points in 68 WHL games and was named the top player in the U.S. division this season. Catton was also the leading goal-scorer and point producer for Canada at this summer’s Hlinka Gretzky Cup, where they won gold.

Lindstrom, when healthy, scored 27 goals in 32 WHL games while showing great speed and tenacity, especially as a 6-foot-3 center.

Both Catton and Lindstrom are potential top 10 picks in the upcoming draft and could have been Canada’s top two line centers at the 2024 Men’s U18 World Championship in Finland. Canada is expected to name its roster for the tournament soon.



BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 4 @ 5:34 PM ET
Man people on Twitter want to burn the Kings FO to the ground. Buying PLD out already, hahaha. Maybe they do better next year who knows but just think they might of just wasted that 5 year window of sucking just because they got a little taste of winning one year.

Is NJ next? I know they got some really good green defenseman but how long before they can be the type of player they need to be in the playoffs. I saw Dobson who is really good defensively look back to see the forechecker lost site of the puck and over skated it, forechecker for Carolina grabs and tucks it in for the game winning goal. The Canes just tied the game 15 seconds earlier. Growing pains

It's going to be an interesting off season for sure.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 4 @ 5:39 PM ET
Also congrats to the Canucks i didn't think they would win a playoff series, but I also didn't think the Preds would so good for them for winning their division.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

May 4 @ 5:51 PM ET
All-expense paid vacations in Screw City are up for Nick Lardis, Martin Misiak and Alex Pharand.

https://www.bleachernatio...other-blackhawks-bullets/

Maybe there is still some hope for Bustski Bro Paul Ludbustski to get in a game or two.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 4 @ 6:31 PM ET
So… you’re saying no lavender sniffers?


- Chief4Feathers

Absolutely no lavender sniffers, or incense and peppermints in the dressing room.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 4 @ 6:34 PM ET
That's exactly who i thought of, no thanks.

Back issues that young are not good. If he fell to the second pick, I'd think about it (and don't tell me its impossible with a potential back issue) depending on what my Docs told me, but even then, I'm pretty sure I'd shy away.

- vabeachbear

Back ailment can mean anything. He missed time because of a wrist injury. I’m sure every GM will know of any injury and ailment of every prospect long before the draft. But if you’re right and he had a chronic back problem, the Hawks have to steer clear.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 4 @ 6:45 PM ET
List of top 50 UFA's along with projected signing amount and term.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....aily-faceoffs-top-50-ufas

I'm surprised at all the RD's available if the Hawks want to complement Jones and Murphy. Probably a good idea considering Murphy's injury history. Montour, Roy, Pesce, Walker, Chatfield, Carrier, Myers, Dumba, DeMelo, Tanev, Desharnais.
I would bet one of them is on the team this Fall.

- boilermaker100


Good link, BM!! Nice to see what the projection is for both money and term for the UFA's...... How bout Monohan? Think he came back from hip surgery and posted 59 pts, 26 goals in 84 games this yr. .... He looked healthy to me with MTL and you know WPG checked his health before trading for him at the TDL so he's probably healthy.

A perfect big 3C in a more skilled kinda Jordan Staal mold. He was down low/net front on the MTL 1st unit PP.. Big guy will play physical and has scoring class and 2 way play..... Great fit for 2 yrs as he turns 30 in October. ..Sean Monahan
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 4 @ 6:56 PM ET
Back ailment can mean anything. He missed time because of a wrist injury. I’m sure every GM will know of any injury and ailment of every prospect long before the draft. But if you’re right and he had a chronic back problem, the Hawks have to steer clear.
- paulr


The Saginaw-London Game 5 was awesome. I just didn't see how good Saginaw really was. Hoping it gets to 7 games........ And I just don't know about Parekh, he can't be healthy. Scratched from a couple games in the last series and now a scratch v London.

Kid is shooting/hitting the net like 6 times a game but they're all from distance. He usually gobbles open ice to the slot and dishes or shoots but he ain't attacking... Tried to follow his usage and it seems coach is just rolling pairs, not getting Parekh extra shifts. And on a PP or two he wasn't on the ice to start two of them. Regular season the guy had to be getting close to 30:00 a lotta games.

Nothing like his dominating reg season but he's still getting those pts. .... If he's healthy he's playing himself down the draft list IMO.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 4 @ 6:57 PM ET
List of top 50 UFA's along with projected signing amount and term.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....aily-faceoffs-top-50-ufas

I'm surprised at all the RD's available if the Hawks want to complement Jones and Murphy. Probably a good idea considering Murphy's injury history. Montour, Roy, Pesce, Walker, Chatfield, Carrier, Myers, Dumba, DeMelo, Tanev, Desharnais.
I would bet one of them is on the team this Fall.

- boilermaker100

Chatfield or Carrier seem to fit the salary and term Kd has mentioned. Both would big upgrades over Megna, Tinordi and Zaitsev. I like Chatfield given all things considered.
would love Pesce and would give him a 4-5 year deal but I doubt he wants to be on a rebuilding team.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 4 @ 7:01 PM ET
I’m good with whoever they get as long as he can play when it gets tough. I don’t want to see dainty regular season perimeter players.
- paulr

Eiserman crumpled some Slovak with a huge open ice hit.

Next year wouldn't be a bad time to suck again. That kid Hagens is pretty special. He just broke Kucherov's record at the U18.

But i have seen enough tanking. Need to start building a different culture before what young kids there are on the team become jaded
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 4 @ 7:03 PM ET
Bedard’s cousin, Gavin McKenna may be every bit as good. He scored a beautiful goal against Sweden.
- paulr

Hagens is pretty special, too.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 4 @ 7:07 PM ET
Eiserman crumpled some Slovak with a huge open ice hit.

Next year wouldn't be a bad time to suck again. That kid Hagens is pretty special. He just broke Kucherov's record at the U18.

But i have seen enough tanking. Need to start building a different culture before what young kids there are on the team become jaded

- Elbows15

Hagens is outstanding. There are a few other kids who look to be available later in the draft next year. But I agree 100%, enough of the tanking, it’s awful hockey to watch and look no further than Edmonton to see what tanking does to the culture.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 4 @ 7:09 PM ET
The Saginaw-London Game 5 was awesome. I just didn't see how good Saginaw really was. Hoping it gets to 7 games........ And I just don't know about Parekh, he can't be healthy. Scratched from a couple games in the last series and now a scratch v London.

Kid is shooting/hitting the net like 6 times a game but they're all from distance. He usually gobbles open ice to the slot and dishes or shoots but he ain't attacking... Tried to follow his usage and it seems coach is just rolling pairs, not getting Parekh extra shifts. And on a PP or two he wasn't on the ice to start two of them. Regular season the guy had to be getting close to 30:00 a lotta games.

Nothing like his dominating reg season but he's still getting those pts. .... If he's healthy he's playing himself down the draft list IMO.

- Mr Ricochet


The Knights are hitting him at every and all opportunities. Pretty sure he’s coming back from a concussion.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

May 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
Honest question. Have you seen any published reporting that says Lindstrom has a back injury/problem? I have not If you've read something link us up. .......

Well, guess I was missing reports. Searching his injury led me to the Athletic, but there are multiple links. A back is mentioned along with a broken hand.

https://theathletic.com/5...lindstrom-nhl-draft-2024/

"Lindstrom had dealt with multiple injuries in the second half of the season. He broke a hand in the middle of the season, and has also been dealing with symptoms of a back injury. Lindstrom returned in time for Game 1 of Medicine Hat’s playoff opener but looked off in the series".

Same article published April 11th show Catton was injured too.

Catton had been dealing with hip issues during the season, which were also lingering in Spokane’s playoff opener against Prince George. He will not require surgery but will be shut down while he recovers.

Catton is a 5-foot-10 center with dynamic speed and skill. He scored 54 goals and 116 points in 68 WHL games and was named the top player in the U.S. division this season. Catton was also the leading goal-scorer and point producer for Canada at this summer’s Hlinka Gretzky Cup, where they won gold.

Lindstrom, when healthy, scored 27 goals in 32 WHL games while showing great speed and tenacity, especially as a 6-foot-3 center.

Both Catton and Lindstrom are potential top 10 picks in the upcoming draft and could have been Canada’s top two line centers at the 2024 Men’s U18 World Championship in Finland. Canada is expected to name its roster for the tournament soon.

- Mr Ricochet

If we dont win the lottery i would select eiserman or the cossack ( even with his “edge” issue)
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 4 @ 7:29 PM ET
The Knights are hitting him at every and all opportunities. Pretty sure he’s coming back from a concussion.
- paulr


I already forgot who Saginaw played in rd 1 but early in the series he took a big hit into the boards behind his net. Was not hit square but solidly in his shoulder and fell to the ice. Went to the room, missed the rest of the game and was a scratch the next game but came back in the series.

Assumed it was a shoulder but it sure coulda been his noggin that took the abuse. .... I just don't see the dominating/dangerous Parekh conceding London is doing a great job bodying up on the kid. It is playoff hockey after all.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

May 4 @ 7:34 PM ET
I already forgot who Saginaw played in rd 1 but early in the series he took a big hit into the boards behind his net. Was not hit square but solidly in his shoulder and fell to the ice. Went to the room, missed the rest of the game and was a scratch the next game but came back in the series.

Assumed it was a shoulder but it sure coulda been his noggin that took the abuse. .... I just don't see the dominating/dangerous Parekh conceding London is doing a great job bodying up on the kid. It is playoff hockey after all.

- Mr Ricochet

The word around the Tribute Centre in Oshawa was Parekh had a concussion, but who knows? D!ckinson is an absolute beast physically and is a really good skater. What I like about him is he’s really good defensively, has some offensive upside and makes very few mistakes.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 4 @ 7:36 PM ET
If we dont win the lottery i would select eiserman or the cossack ( even with his “edge” issue)
- LFS


Love Demidov. Can you just imagine and Bedard on the same line with Demidov for 10 yrs on a line with a beefy winger to get em the puck although Demidov is a first rate puck hound? ....... But he is a Cossack and I just can't live with the risk inside the top 5.

At 10, sure at 2-3-4 no, especially with at least one of Buium, D!ckenson or even Levshunov or Lindstrom available. ....... I do think KD and Crew go Dman. IMO an NHL 1st pairing guy will be available when they pick and those kinds are damn near impossible to pass on.
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