Listen to this broadcasters round table podcast from today starting at the 15 minute mark where they discuss the Flyers power play. Boucher mirrors what I have posted numerous times about the power play, it's more about the players and how they collaborate with the coach versus just the coaching. Its an insightful discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59REu1YkOo
- jd250

boucher is a corporate shill and will not blame management or coaches.

the coaching part sucks. How can you not admit this fact. Plenty of blame a=to go around except not on the head coach/GM as he takes no accountability for it being bad.

what were torts PP ranked in Columbus? I know it was posted a long time ago.

You would have to add to get into the top 10. I don't think TK is going to bring in a 1st rounder in the top 10.
- Flyfly

i actually meant adding one of our firsts along with TK to get into the top 10. Not sure if the later one would do it, but

#12 and TK for #6 and something added

not sure how or what would come back, but this could be a way to nab a top player in the draft and maybe even get a prospect back.

If they don’t extend Seeler, who is playing with Drysdale for as cheap?

The 4th year was a little much but I don’t see a problem with passing up a 3rd rd pick to keep a guy who hope can shelter and let Drysdale develop. After the Hextall years of using MacDonald to help develop Provorov, I don’t think it’s that bad of a decision to extend Seeler.

As far as Poehling goes, look at the Flyers center depth.

As far as bad contracts, Fedotov was awful and inexcusable. Briere got taken to cleaners on that one. And if he sits on his hands this summer and doesn’t make any moves then I would absolutely put him in the bad GM category but I can’t kill him for either of those extensions. The Phantoms are crap and he needs to actually fill out an NHL roster.
- psuhockey

how did seeler look after walker was moved and he came back from his injury?

how you replace him is you do your job and find the next seeler. They are out there every summer. Maybe Belpedio is that late bloomer as he looked fine in his dozen games. Just using him an an example.

If they don’t extend Seeler, who is playing with Drysdale for as cheap?

The 4th year was a little much but I don’t see a problem with passing up a 3rd rd pick to keep a guy who hope can shelter and let Drysdale develop. After the Hextall years of using MacDonald to help develop Provorov, I don’t think it’s that bad of a decision to extend Seeler.

As far as Poehling goes, look at the Flyers center depth.

As far as bad contracts, Fedotov was awful and inexcusable. Briere got taken to cleaners on that one. And if he sits on his hands this summer and doesn’t make any moves then I would absolutely put him in the bad GM category but I can’t kill him for either of those extensions. The Phantoms are crap and he needs to actually fill out an NHL roster.
- psuhockey

Does rp really move the needle in improving center depth? Not in my opinion - he should have been moved for draft capital - same with seeler - torts and company thought that drysdale and a 2nd next year were worth a top 5 pick - he should have a higher level of readiness than a mid round pick dman.

Every move this team makes is in direct contrast to what they say to the public

Maybe it was just a typo, but I believe the Black Hawks just signed Alex Vlasic to a contract extension....6 years @ 4.6m

What? 97 career games and 1 full season that wasn't that great.

Hextall was also left in cap hell by Homer, and just had it sorted out when they replaced him with Fletcher. Fletcher blew his load on Hayes. Hextall might have missed on some draft picks, but he had the franchise in a good position to move ahead when the time was right...that never came.
- TheFreak

please stop, there is no defense of hextalls incompetence.

If they don’t extend Seeler, who is playing with Drysdale for as cheap?

The 4th year was a little much but I don’t see a problem with passing up a 3rd rd pick to keep a guy who hope can shelter and let Drysdale develop. After the Hextall years of using MacDonald to help develop Provorov, I don’t think it’s that bad of a decision to extend Seeler.

As far as Poehling goes, look at the Flyers center depth.

As far as bad contracts, Fedotov was awful and inexcusable. Briere got taken to cleaners on that one. And if he sits on his hands this summer and doesn’t make any moves then I would absolutely put him in the bad GM category but I can’t kill him for either of those extensions. The Phantoms are crap and he needs to actually fill out an NHL roster.
- psuhockey

But Seeler shouldn't be playing with Drysdale. I think Drysdale is a #3 at best, but Seeler should be a 3rd pairing at best. To me, Seeler is a 6 at best, on most teams a #7 dman. He is now overpaid in money and term by twice as much as he should have gotten.

please stop, there is no defense of hextalls incompetence.
- bradster

He is the best of the last 3.

I am judging Briere 100% purely based on his actions this offseason whether he creates a path for improvement or if he just adds problems that have to be fixed later.
- Glak18

Agreed. If he sits on his hands and everyone is back then he is in way over his head. There is a ton of opportunity for action this summer so there is no excuses.

i actually meant adding one of our firsts along with TK to get into the top 10. Not sure if the later one would do it, but

#12 and TK for #6 and something added

not sure how or what would come back, but this could be a way to nab a top player in the draft and maybe even get a prospect back.
- Wingdestroyer

#12 and TK to move up 6 spots...

That's steep.

i actually meant adding one of our firsts along with TK to get into the top 10. Not sure if the later one would do it, but

#12 and TK for #6 and something added

not sure how or what would come back, but this could be a way to nab a top player in the draft and maybe even get a prospect back.
- Wingdestroyer

how much better is the #6 pick better than the #12? Thats the big question, guessing not that big of a difference. The difference usually drops considerably after the 1st pick or three.

Agreed. If he sits on his hands and everyone is back then he is in way over his head. There is a ton of opportunity for action this summer so there is no excuses.
- psuhockey

He won’t sit on his hands but not due to any original gameplan or thought devised by Danny. The action will come based on who is on the outs with the coach. All Danny has to do is execute.

In reality the Flyers could get an AI to do the GM role. Torts just has to prompt it correctly.

When the plan is to draft and develop and you blow multiple high picks that don’t even sniff the NHL then you did not leave the franchise in a good position.
- psuhockey

please stop, there is no defense of hextalls incompetence.
- bradster

OK, but the two GMs that succeeded him have worse records. Obviously with Briere it's just one season, but if he is fired in a couple years with the Flyers never having made the playoffs, are we still gonna be whining about Hextall?

He is the best of the last 3.
- TheFreak

I get what you are saying but that is a pretty low bar.

how did seeler look after walker was moved and he came back from his injury?

how you replace him is you do your job and find the next seeler. They are out there every summer. Maybe Belpedio is that late bloomer as he looked fine in his dozen games. Just using him an an example.
- hello it's me 2050

And if that guy is Staal quality then what? I don’t understand the outrage over missing out of a 3rd rd pick. Not trading Laughton I get because presumably he is worth a late first but passing up a 3rd rounder to hopefully stabilize a guy you hope turns into something. Seems like hating just to hate.

OK, but the two GMs that succeeded him have worse records. Obviously with Briere it's just one season, but if he is fired in a couple years with the Flyers never having made the playoffs, are we still gonna be whining about Hextall?
- Feanor

it doesnt mean he was competent. Hextall was awful. Bad trades, bad drafting, sure he shed some money at the expense of making bad trades. I would say Danny is better so far. but would more lean to dannys grade as incomplete.

When the plan is to draft and develop and you blow multiple high picks that don’t even sniff the NHL then you did not leave the franchise in a good position.
- psuhockey

Fletcher disagreed when he took over. Anyone know what happened to that Zito guy?

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...tcher-new-general-manager

Fletcher was considered a heavy favorite for the Philadelphia job. Columbus assistant GM Bill Zito and Anaheim special assignment scout Dave Nonis, a former Toronto general manager, were also interviewed.

"It is an honor to join the Flyers, an iconic NHL franchise, and I would like to thank Dave Scott and Paul Holmgren for entrusting me to guide the team forward," Fletcher said. "Adding to my excitement is the high level of talent that is in place, which sets this opportunity apart and will pay dividends as we move the organization ahead and ultimately compete for a championship."

it doesnt mean he was competent. Hextall was awful. Bad trades, bad drafting, sure he shed some money at the expense of making bad trades. I would say Danny is better so far. but would more lean to dannys grade as incomplete.
- bradster

His drafting overall was average at worst. The Flyers highest skilled player was taken late in the first round by Hextall. Imagine this team without TK.

OK, but the two GMs that succeeded him have worse records. Obviously with Briere it's just one season, but if he is fired in a couple years with the Flyers never having made the playoffs, are we still gonna be whining about Hextall?
- Feanor

Can Briere actually be here for more than one season before we bury him under Hextall.

This is not directed at you specifically but I do wonder if Briere picked Perreault over Bonk if there would be this much hate for him. Seemed the moment the internet turned on him.

Sounds like the Phantoms mirror their parent team. Lots of zone time and lots of chances (terrible PP), but nothing to show for it cause they have no finishers. WONDERFUL!!
- Phillywhiteout

Phantoms had a top-three power play until a horrid stretch drive (on 0-for-31 slide before two PPG in the regular season finale) in that department down the stretch. Needs to be better than it was last night.

it doesnt mean he was competent. Hextall was awful. Bad trades, bad drafting, sure he shed some money at the expense of making bad trades. I would say Danny is better so far. but would more lean to dannys grade as incomplete.
- bradster

Hextall was far from awful. He drafted several NHL caliber players and he rightfully shut out the alumni. He deserves a pass just for that.

His cardinal sin was not stripping it to the studs when he was first hired.

#12 and TK to move up 6 spots...

That's steep.
- Glak18

It is a lot and if you are going to make those type of moves they need to be "wins."

I don't care about Bonk, although it is classic Flyers to draft a RH dman for need after trading for two of them, but the fact is Briere's moves so far have been very similar to Hextall's.

Seeler is his Schultz

Johansen is his Lehtera

His drafting overall was average at worst. The Flyers highest skilled player was taken late in the first round by Hextall. Imagine this team without TK.
- Feanor

i can agree to disagree, i think his drafting was awful. How many 1st round picks did he use, and what was the outcome of those 1st round picks? How many 1st line players did he draft with all those 1st round picks?