So Mitch needs AM..... and Willy does not. Case closed.
- jribout

Ya sure..

If getting 4Pts in his last 10 games is considered good.

Stop loving Marner so much… he’s their worst forward when it comes to giveaways and he has absolutely zero physical ability. He’s also not all that quick. The current GM chose Nylander. Don’t be shocked if Marner is sent packing.

Your memory also sucks ass… that top line of yours is how they started the season and they blew chunks… unless Marner learns how to play tough he’s nothing special, the end.

Also keep Jarnkrok on the third line, drop Knies back down to the fourth and put McMann back up on the second. McMann JT Nylander looked solid as hell. Put Marner on the third line and let him play setup with a couple shooters down there. He’s a weak assed wimp and I truly hope the leafs move on from him. I’m a Londoner too… remember him with the knights… was kind of surprised he got drafted as high as he did tbh. The league has figured out his style and his point production is dropping, it’s not going to stop either.
- Dozzer

I really like Marner. He's a very skilled passer and has been better than a point a game in every season except his first two. That said, there are elements of his game which could be corrected by proper coaching. Back-passes especially in the defensive zone are generally not a good idea and he is regularly guilty of this act. Lack of physicality can also be coached. Nylander has improved significantly in this area this season. The high skill player I look to as an example is Pastrnak. He's not big, he's as skilled as any Leaf except Matthews IMO, yet he hits and is a dirty (frank). That's coaching. In the offensive zone, looking for the perfect pass is a regular problem. If it's not there, float one at the net an hopefully it bounces in off someone's ass. My biggest concern is how butt hurt will Marner (and his dad) be when Tree offers him less than Nylander is making?

My God..

You’re one of them!

- Arctic_AARDVARK

The Marner types are going to become a common thing and he’ll just end up over priced. Watch some junior games and you’ll see it.

Also… moving forward it will be more and more American players who will make the average size bigger and faster…. You just wait for it lol

So Mitch needs AM..... and Willy does not. Case closed.
- jribout

But thats not the case.

My gawd marner haters are hilarious

Stop loving Marner so much… he’s their worst forward when it comes to giveaways and he has absolutely zero physical ability. He’s also not all that quick. The current GM chose Nylander. Don’t be shocked if Marner is sent packing.

Your memory also sucks ass… that top line of yours is how they started the season and they blew chunks… unless Marner learns how to play tough he’s nothing special, the end.

Also keep Jarnkrok on the third line, drop Knies back down to the fourth and put McMann back up on the second. McMann JT Nylander looked solid as hell. Put Marner on the third line and let him play setup with a couple shooters down there. He’s a weak assed wimp and I truly hope the leafs move on from him. I’m a Londoner too… remember him with the knights… was kind of surprised he got drafted as high as he did tbh. The league has figured out his style and his point production is dropping, it’s not going to stop either.
- Dozzer

Thats what happens when you are constantly making plays against the other teams top lines. He takes too many chances, hes an elite playmaker.
The teams "successes" over the past several years has been marner feeding Matthews or Jt
Tre is notorious for handing out bad contracts, nylanders is another just one.
Unless marner faulters really bad these playoffs, he'll get extended. Next year will be down year, due to cap and no available draft picks.
Now that said, the whole (frank)ing team is soft, Matthews, marner, willie, JT. Trade them all for all i care. Reg season goals dont impress me, playoff results do. Build a winner. It may start with a new coach
Its only one game (i know, more of the same we've seen too much of the past 7 years), leafs can easily turn this around. Maybe.
But
Has marner hurt you, where did he touch you?
Youve seemed angry with him these past few months/half season.

Dont let boston pull us apart!!

😀

But thats not the case.

My gawd marner haters are hilarious
- Fakepartofme

You seem smart. Figure it out. We do not hate Marner. It is almost always in response to an idiotic take.

HE’S ALIVE!!!!

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HE’S ALIVE!!!!

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- Canada Cup

Nice to see he is not benched from practice anymore.

Thats what happens when you are constantly making plays against the other teams top lines. He takes too many chances, hes an elite playmaker.
The teams "successes" over the past several years has been marner feeding Matthews or Jt
Tre is notorious for handing out bad contracts, nylanders is another just one.
Unless marner faulters really bad these playoffs, he'll get extended. Next year will be down year, due to cap and no available draft picks.
Now that said, the whole (frank)ing team is soft, Matthews, marner, willie, JT. Trade them all for all i care. Reg season goals dont impress me, playoff results do. Build a winner. It may start with a new coach
Its only one game (i know, more of the same we've seen too much of the past 7 years), leafs can easily turn this around. Maybe.
But
Has marner hurt you, where did he touch you?
Youve seemed angry with him these past few months/half season.
- Fakepartofme

Nope, but I can tell by watching college/junior that the Marner type will be the regular before you guys even know it.

Right now he’s special, in about 3-4 years he won’t be.

I really like Marner. He's a very skilled passer and has been better than a point a game in every season except his first two. That said, there are elements of his game which could be corrected by proper coaching. Back-passes especially in the defensive zone are generally not a good idea and he is regularly guilty of this act. Lack of physicality can also be coached. Nylander has improved significantly in this area this season. The high skill player I look to as an example is Pastrnak. He's not big, he's as skilled as any Leaf except Matthews IMO, yet he hits and is a dirty (frank). That's coaching. In the offensive zone, looking for the perfect pass is a regular problem. If it's not there, float one at the net an hopefully it bounces in off someone's ass. My biggest concern is how butt hurt will Marner (and his dad) be when Tree offers him less than Nylander is making?
- winsix

He looks good now but start focusing on what the current junior/college talent is doing. Marner will be one of those players who will be the exact same player but not look nearly as special in about half a decade tops.

He looks good now but start focusing on what the current junior/college talent is doing. Marner will be one of those players who will be the exact same player but not look nearly as special in about half a decade tops.
- Dozzer

Bruce,

I really feel like you’re trying to start a Marner vs Nylander argument.

I want Willy back in the lineup. I think he’ll help the team.

But to say Marner isn’t good is bizarre. He’s an incredible player. The Leafs haven’t had a player like him in a longtime. Every year he dominates. His defence is also very good. Good players make risky plays, and he’s no exception.

I think it’s borderline bullying the way some people treat him. It’s gone too far. That’s a big reason why I’m a tad defensive of him.

Nope, but I can tell by watching college/junior that the Marner type will be the regular before you guys even know it.

Right now he’s special, in about 3-4 years he won’t be.
- Dozzer

Whats that even mean?
So theres gonna be more elite playmaking wingers?
Ya cause the younger players are trying to emulate marner? Or that style. That happens.
In 3 -4 years he and willie will be slower and neither will be worth their contracts.
Like ive always said, if willie wanted more than 10.5m, move him....he got 11.5 and we are stuck with that contract. If marner wants 13m, (frank)ing move him.
But keefe gets moved before any core player imo.
This team has no system and no identity.
Tre moves out keefe (if the leafs get tossed in the first round) and tries a new coach with this core. If they remain soft and marner wants too much money, he gets moved.

He looks good now but start focusing on what the current junior/college talent is doing. Marner will be one of those players who will be the exact same player but not look nearly as special in about half a decade tops.
- Dozzer

Is this the same guarantee as matthews is leaving for the states?
Again, in half a decade neither Matthews, willie or marner will be as special or effective. This s nothing new.
Age catches all.

Bruce,

I really feel like you’re trying to start a Marner vs Nylander argument.

I want Willy back in the lineup. I think he’ll help the team.

But to say Marner isn’t good is bizarre. He’s an incredible player. The Leafs haven’t had a player like him in a longtime. Every year he dominates. His defence is also very good. Good players make risky plays, and he’s no exception.

I think it’s borderline bullying the way some people treat him. It’s gone too far. That’s a big reason why I’m a tad defensive of him.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

A "tad"?
Lol
😜
Marner makes foolish plays sometimes, part of his risk/reward style.
Needs to think a little more imo.

Whats that even mean?
So theres gonna be more elite playmaking wingers?
Ya cause the younger players are trying to emulate marner? Or that style. That happens.
In 3 -4 years he and willie will be slower and neither will be worth their contracts.
Like ive always said, if willie wanted more than 10.5m, move him....he got 11.5 and we are stuck with that contract. If marner wants 13m, (frank)ing move him.
But keefe gets moved before any core player imo.
This team has no system and no identity.
Tre moves out keefe (if the leafs get tossed in the first round) and tries a new coach with this core. If they remain soft and marner wants too much money, he gets moved.
- Fakepartofme

I have no issue with this.

However, I don’t think it bodes well for convincing Matthews to stay long term. He and Mitch are good friends, and they like playing together.

Also, Willy can be moved, but it’ll probably come down to him wanting to move on.

A "tad"?
Lol
😜
Marner makes foolish plays sometimes, part of his risk/reward style.
Needs to think a little more imo.
- Fakepartofme

I agree.

Some of the nicest goals scored in the past 9 years were Marner dangles.

The Marner types are going to become a common thing and he’ll just end up over priced. Watch some junior games and you’ll see it.

Also… moving forward it will be more and more American players who will make the average size bigger and faster…. You just wait for it lol
- Dozzer

This is very good. And, it is not just about the Leafs.

Elite, skilled players will always look good in many regular season games, specially before Christmas. But play gets much tighter in in the second half.

The playoffs are dominated by the teams that play a heavy physical game. Some elite skaters disappear when the game gets heavy. I still like Marner and think he fits well if he played on a team that had other players who could play the heavy game.

So Mitch needs AM..... and Willy does not. Case closed.
- jribout

If someone is trying to say he needs to be with someone else, that's probably exactly the problem.

At 11 million a season he needs to be able to drive a line all the time, they've tried out every player on the roster who knows where to stand at left wing with Matthews and he still produces. Marner needs to be that guy too, not he can't find certain players so he needs to be with Matthews. You are paid "figure it out and find them" money.

I had two thoughts after the game about Marner:

1.) how old is he going to be before he realizes no look passes in high danger situations do not belong in the NHL.
2.) where the (frank) was he outside of that.

Nope, but I can tell by watching college/junior that the Marner type will be the regular before you guys even know it.

Right now he’s special, in about 3-4 years he won’t be.
- Dozzer

Unless someone is stupid enough to let him walk, Marner along with Matthews, will retire as the top two point getters in Leafs’ history.

Bruce,

I really feel like you’re trying to start a Marner vs Nylander argument.

I want Willy back in the lineup. I think he’ll help the team.

But to say Marner isn’t good is bizarre. He’s an incredible player. The Leafs haven’t had a player like him in a longtime. Every year he dominates. His defence is also very good. Good players make risky plays, and he’s no exception.

I think it’s borderline bullying the way some people treat him. It’s gone too far. That’s a big reason why I’m a tad defensive of him.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Leafs haven't had players like Matthews/Marner/Nylander/Tavares in a long time. *remembers teh bozek*

Unless someone is stupid enough to let him walk, Marner along with Matthews, will retire as the top two point getters in Leafs’ history.
- Canada Cup

Not as flex worthy as it should be, how many top 5 picks have been given NHL minutes as a teenager with this franchise and have still been around after age 30.

Leafs haven't had players like Matthews/Marner/Nylander/Tavares in a long time. *remembers teh bozek*


- AdamFrench

Personally thought Marner stepped up his intensity big time last night. He will need to shoot and score or at least create goals on rebounds to create some space on the PP.

Will also need to venture more often into the dirty areas to create some space for others

They look frightened.
- Aetherial

It's more mental and sticking to a structured game plan IMO. Plus Keefe is making some weird decisions alot of times being out-coached as well and as Canucks fans we know all about that lol. Bottom line is I highly doubt Reaves Domi Bertuzzi and a few other Leafs players are 'scared' just need to up their 200 game and defense and all buy in. It's very difficult for today's NHL coaches to get all 4 lines responding that way.

One and done again for Leafs nation....