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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
So you are simply guessing. Gotcha.
- landros 2


You, otoh, are privy to his bedtime prayers?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
Yes the draft is 8 days away and I to am excited….se you can say something I agree with…I knew you had it in you.
- landros 2


Speaking of having it in you, a reminder that you will owe me $200 in about a years time

(from 9.7.2020):


Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
Duchene signed the then contract in July 2013. That contract ran till 2019. He asked for a trade in 2016 December, right about midway point of a 6 year contract.

There were no problems, contractual or otherwise, in negotiations because there were no negotiations. There was nothing to negotiate. He wanted out because of a lot of non-money reasons.

""It was something I sat on for a long time. I wanted to wait and see how things panned out," Duchene said. "Last year when it happened, it was around the time I saw the writing on the wall in terms of the future of that franchise, in terms of the rest of my contract. We had a horrific year last year, and I could see a rebuild coming. It was something I've been a part of, multiple times, and I just couldn't do it."

- PT21

Something like that. Don’t know why I was thinking contract. All I remember is strife for a long time then trade request. Then eventually a trade
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Right after drafting, he could have foregone the 2 college years he eventually chose, and turned pro right away. He "risked millions' by deferring his pro status/ELC, and injury, was my point. Just that 2 extra years alone likely means he gave up 10 million odd over the course of his career.

It ain't solely about the money. Caitlin Clark gave up 20 million from Ice Cube to earn $340k in the WNBA over 4 years. Yes, she will make a ton from endorsements, but she would have made that in the 3-on-3 as well.

- PT21

Then he would’ve went back to juniors. Apples and oranges. Either way he wasn’t playing on flyers. So he wanted to go to college which obviously prevented him from signing elc per college rules. He wasn’t avoiding elc by some sacrifice of money. He wasn’t getting paid to start that elc.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 17 @ 3:58 PM ET
That's a matter of opinion. In my opinion they did. If they had simply signed him in March of 23, he would be Flyers property today and the Flyers would have another potential top player asset.
- MJL

He wasn’t wrong. It was his right to do exactly what he did. And for good reason he did imo


With that said I wish they would’ve signed him in hindsight only because I never would’ve thought an nhl team would respond to a disgruntled prospect so poorly as Philly did.

And like you said they’d still have him.

But I can’t lay blame on db for the intial decision to send him back to college for a what amounts to 6 months.

I do lay blame on what happened after mainly on flyers tho. I’d say 90%/10%
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Apr 17 @ 4:00 PM ET
People say that I don't give Tortorella any credit. I want to give him credit for one thing. He actually coached every game behind the bench this season. He has grown as a coach this year.
- MJL



Except for the 2 he was suspended for.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 4:31 PM ET
Can't say Frost whines, press actually asked the right questions.


https://twitter.com/NHLFlyers
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 4:32 PM ET
Then he would’ve went back to juniors. Apples and oranges. Either way he wasn’t playing on flyers. So he wanted to go to college which obviously prevented him from signing elc per college rules. He wasn’t avoiding elc by some sacrifice of money. He wasn’t getting paid to start that elc.
- Stayin alive


What juniors? He went to the USNDP. He could have declared pro right away at the same age his buddy Kane did. Or at least, after his freshman year was over. When everyone, including Flyers mgmt, were eagerly waiting for him to turn pro.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
[quote=THE BLACK HAND] Soccer players are the biggest pu$$ies to ever walk the face of the earth! Every time they get touched they go down like they got shot by a 12 gauge shotgun! They are ALMOST bigger sissies than Embiid!! They aren't that soft yet though. Thanks! Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout


every single one of them would beat your ass
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
every single one of them would beat your ass
- THE BLACK HAND


Especially Vinnie Jones.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
No they didn’t.
- Stayin alive


They did, because now the team with the league's 27th best offense have an injured Drysdale and a 2025 2nd round pick instead of the highly skilled young forward they desperately need.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
TK at the end of his interview, about his contract, no news, no talks but ends with I love Philly
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
As a protest against the state of this franchise, I propose we unofficially make this Eaglesbuzz and discuss a team much more worth discussing.

If Bill tacitly condones this and gives out 4 year bans for anyone daring to talk about the Flyers, things can progress and be official.

Undoubtedly, the story will get picked up by outside media. There might be daytime discussion about MJL by teams of psychiatrists, memes, MRIs of his brain and who knows, even a book deal.

The NFL draft is 8 days away. I am super excited.

- PT21
How bout you take your Eagles talk and politics elsewhere? Anyone that suggests this become Eagles buzz should be the one that gets ejected!! Thanks!
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Apr 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
What juniors? He went to the USNDP. He could have declared pro right away at the same age his buddy Kane did. Or at least, after his freshman year was over. When everyone, including Flyers mgmt, were eagerly waiting for him to turn pro.
- PT21

K maybe not juniors but another minor league team. Team other than nhl. Pick one
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:52 PM ET
every single one of them would beat your ass
- THE BLACK HAND
Still hangin out at the gym jerking off to those big guys workin out? I'd drop Embiid like a stone! One karate kick to the outside of his weak knee and he'd drop like an overgrown turd!! Got your red rocket out? God, what a creepy term...figures you use it. You, in a word, are one creepy MFer.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Apr 17 @ 4:56 PM ET
flyers acquired damaged goods, you dont say.
- hello it's me 2050

https://www.nhl.com/flyer...player/ryan-ellis-8475176
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Apr 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
Especially Vinnie Jones.
- Feanor

ironically, I posted a gif of vinny from Snatch yesterday haha
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
Still hangin out at the gym jerking off to those big guys workin out? I'd drop Embiid like a stone! One karate kick to the outside of his weak knee and he'd drop like an overgrown turd!! Got your red rocket out? God, what a creepy term...figures you use it. You, in a word, are one creepy MFer.
- Phillywhiteout


This is 10 yards where I sometimes play tennis. One day Embiid dropped by, god alone knows why, and this guy started trash talking him. It was probably you.


Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
ironically, I posted a gif of vinny from Snatch yesterday haha
- THE BLACK HAND
I never even heard of Vinny Jones and if you know him that makes total sense to me. Clown!!
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Apr 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
As a protest against the state of this franchise, I propose we unofficially make this Eaglesbuzz and discuss a team much more worth discussing.

If Bill tacitly condones this and gives out 4 year bans for anyone daring to talk about the Flyers, things can progress and be official.

Undoubtedly, the story will get picked up by outside media. There might be daytime discussion about MJL by teams of psychiatrists, memes, MRIs of his brain and who knows, even a book deal.

The NFL draft is 8 days away. I am super excited.

- PT21







That would put a big clamp on my commenting. But that’s fine. I don’t know much about Frey, Henley, etc.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 5:05 PM ET
K maybe not juniors but another minor league team. Team other than nhl. Pick one
- Stayin alive


Phantoms? use the 2 way of the ELC? Same point though. Much more money than in college, plus risk of injury risks all future NHL contracts he got.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 5:06 PM ET
This is 10 yards where I sometimes play tennis. One day Embiid dropped by, god alone knows why, and this guy started trash talking him. It was probably you.


- PT21
I'd kick his ass in HORSE! I know that for a fact!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 5:06 PM ET




That would put a big clamp on my commenting. But that’s fine. I don’t know much about Frey, Henley, etc.

- Minnyhock


You need to take it easy with these corny jokes, sir.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
You need to take it easy with these corny jokes, sir.
- PT21
Are they still out on tour stealing people's money?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 17 @ 5:08 PM ET
Still hangin out at the gym jerking off to those big guys workin out? I'd drop Embiid like a stone! One karate kick to the outside of his weak knee and he'd drop like an overgrown turd!! Got your red rocket out? God, what a creepy term...figures you use it. You, in a word, are one creepy MFer.
- Phillywhiteout


You can check this day off.
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