- AdamFrench

I made the same argument yesterday, he may not get nominated. at least thats how the lists have trended. but upper 60's in goals, may force him to the top 3..no matter how bad they dont want to do it
- senstroll

Media members do the voting right? Half of them hate Toronto and the Toronto ones don't want to be biased

Kool-Aid chugger

Go Matthews and Jays tonight

Oh and game 1 better be on a Saturday for the leafs

No lame Sunday games when you have the choice for a Saturday like last year

Media members do the voting right? Half of them hate Toronto and the Toronto ones don't want to be biased

- Aaron_85

It'll go to Mac. E5.

Those new seats behind home plate look too comfy

Seems like they want fans to take a nap

Quick Tampa magic number update: 5

Tampa and the Leafs each have 5 games remaining.

If Tampa goes 5-0, the Leafs only have to go 2-2-1 to clinch.

Florida's magic number to beat the Leafs: 7
- Atomic Wedgie

I don't think Tampa does it. It's good for Tampa that their game is rounding into form at the right time. The new acquisitions are settled in pretty well. Vasi seems to be finally regaining most of his pre-surgery form. That bodes well for the playoff run, but it's too little too late to take 3rd in a stacked division.

It'll go to Mac. E5.
- AdamFrench

The gap between Kucherov and the 2nd highest scorer on Tampa is pretty impressive

Kuch is 7 assists away from 100. He can technically get there. He might get 100 assists and he already has 40 goals on the season. That's not being talked about enough.
- Aaron_85

Kuch's epic season has been largely overshadowed by what an bumhole he is.

He's not well liked by the players, the media, or the fans (outside of Tampa). It's hard to root for the guy unless you drink the tasty Tampa koolaid.

The gap between Kucherov and the 2nd highest scorer on Tampa is pretty impressive
- jribout

Doesn't matter. It's politics and Mac "needs" the win.

Doesn't matter. It's politics and Mac "needs" the win.
- AdamFrench

Likely true

How on earth is everyone not rooting for 69 here?
- Scabeh

That would be nice.

Kuch's epic season has been largely overshadowed by what an bumhole he is.

He's not well liked by the players, the media, or the fans (outside of Tampa). It's hard to root for the guy unless you drink the tasty Tampa koolaid.
- GalacticStone

People don't like him? Guy literally set a record in the U18's and the MHL and was rewarded with a 2nd round choice. Moved to Canada to realize his dream and fight the stink of the KHL forever news. Paid his dues in the AHL and never complained. Comes to the NHL and is potentially going to be a 2 time Art Ross winner who kills it in the playoffs and is a mental case Bud Light drinking bastard.

Doesn't matter. It's politics and Mac "needs" the win.
- AdamFrench

Fair assessment

That would be nice.
- Whipper

I think he was talking about Matthews goal total.

Those new seats behind home plate look too comfy

Seems like they want fans to take a nap
- Santo_44

Agreed, they should have nothing but these behind the plate to keep fans engaged

Kuch's epic season has been largely overshadowed by what an bumhole he is.

He's not well liked by the players, the media, or the fans (outside of Tampa). It's hard to root for the guy unless you drink the tasty Tampa koolaid.
- GalacticStone

I don't think its that he is not liked.

He just seems like he has a really bad temper. It is really easy for players to make him angry.

Agreed, they should have nothing but these behind the plate to keep fans engaged

- Whipper

They should do that in the 9th inning to keep people from leaving their 1K seats to beat traffic.

Call me a blue Kool-Aid chugger, but if Matthews gets a few more, I think you have to give him the Hart Trophy.

He's doing something that has only been by the elite of the elite.

Let's say he gets to 68.

The only other guys who have done that are:

Gretzky, Hull, Lemieux, Mogilny, Esposito, Selanne, Kurri, Bernie Nichols, Bossy.

And there are fancy stats to show that what he is doing is probably top 3 of all time, when adjusted for era.
- Atomic Wedgie

If Matthews gets 70 goals and those 2 guys both get 100 assists would’ve it seem more difficult to get 70 then it is to get a 100? Considering 2 guys do it in one year?

Doesn't matter. It's politics and Mac "needs" the win.
- AdamFrench

Couldn't care less about awards that are voted by a collection of random opinions and biases.

Art Ross and Rocket Richard are the legit trophies.

If Matthews gets 70 goals and those 2 guys both get 100 assists would’ve it seem more difficult to get 70 then it is to get a 100? Considering 2 guys do it in one year?
- bryant

Goals stats are almost always more impressive than assists IMHO. Heck, you can get a secondary assist for touching the puck randomly 15 seconds before a goal.

Counter point, you can pass the puck across the crease, bank it off Savards skate and get credited with a goal.

Goals stats are almost always more impressive than assists IMHO. Heck, you can get a secondary assist for touching the puck randomly 15 seconds before a goal.

Counter point, you can pass the puck across the crease, bank it off Savards skate and get credited with a goal.
- Whipper

or you can be a PP specialist who racks an insane amount of pts on the PP but you are just OK at 5 on 5. Best player in the league award should not reward a PP specialist if that player is also not good at other part of the game like 5 on 5 and/or PK.

If Matthews gets 70 goals and those 2 guys both get 100 assists would’ve it seem more difficult to get 70 then it is to get a 100? Considering 2 guys do it in one year?
- bryant

I don't think there is any player in the NHL right now that could get 70 goals other than Matthews.

I mean when there were like 9 games left he needed 9 goals and we were like "oh yeah thats very possible"

It is ridiculous that we consider a goal a game is likely.

or you can be a PP specialist who racks an insane amount of pts on the PP but you are just OK at 5 on 5. Best player in the league award should not reward a PP specialist if that player is also not good at other part of the game like 5 on 5 and/or PK.
- Symba007

Very good point. Empty net points are mostly useless too, that's what makes AMs feat all the more impressive. I think his first 58 or so were with a goalie in the net

65 goals in 76 games for AM

Ovy did it in 82, if you want to be technical he did it in 81 since he didnt score in game 82