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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 11:42 AM ET
It was dumb mainly because it was Stamkos who injured Hagel. From his angle he probably thought it was a knee from Xhekaj.
- Fredo


meh, jumping a guy is always a pretty dumb thing to do.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
meh, jumping a guy is always a pretty dumb thing to do.
- Pat1993


It's dumb when it's a big clean hit within the rules.

It's 100% justified when it's answering a cheapshot.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
Bang on. The team doesn't get manhandled physically, at all.

But they did lack reaction on the Guhle hit. I don't remember who was on the ice but I wish someone had at least given Doucherov a little glove to the face.

- Scabeh


for sure.

osti je l'aime pas le tabarnak.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
It was dumb mainly because it was Stamkos who injured Hagel. From his angle he probably thought it was a knee from Xhekaj.
- Fredo



Could be wasting valuable time on this.

Like time you'd never get back..
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
It's dumb when it's a big clean hit within the rules.

It's 100% justified when it's answering a cheapshot.

- Scabeh


yeah I guess so, but it happens so fast that players often do it even after a legal hit, so it kinda loses its purpose. but I agree.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
Bang on. The team doesn't get manhandled physically, at all.

But they did lack reaction on the Guhle hit. I don't remember who was on the ice but I wish someone had at least given Doucherov a little glove to the face.

- Scabeh

at least go at Douchebag when the score is 6-2
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Apr 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
Bang on. The team doesn't get manhandled physically, at all.

But they did lack reaction on the Guhle hit. I don't remember who was on the ice but I wish someone had at least given Doucherov a little glove to the face.

- Scabeh

I think they do, recently they get gloved to the face alot in front of the net, couple of bigs hits in the neutral zone. RHP, Caufield, Gallagher, Evans. Guys taking liberties agaisnt Slaf who's our best our second best player right now (were lucky he can handle himself) and they just kinda just rollover.

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 5 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think they do, recently they get gloved to the face alot in front of the net, couple of bigs hits in the neutral zone. RHP, Caufield, Gallagher, Evans. Guys taking liberties agaisnt Slaf who's our best our second best player right now (were lucky he can handle himself) and they just kinda just rollover.
- Fredo

The Unicorn will bring some toughness...eventually.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
Bang on. The team doesn't get manhandled physically, at all.

But they did lack reaction on the Guhle hit. I don't remember who was on the ice but I wish someone had at least given Doucherov a little glove to the face.

- Scabeh

Matheson was on the ice. he was asked after the game, said he didn't see the hit, busy fighting for the puck.
but yes at some point during the game a little face wash would have been nice.
or a crosscheck in the face of the ref!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think they do, recently they get gloved to the face alot in front of the net, couple of bigs hits in the neutral zone. RHP, Caufield, Gallagher, Evans. Guys taking liberties agaisnt Slaf who's our best our second best player right now (were lucky he can handle himself) and they just kinda just rollover.
- Fredo


they get pushed but they do push back. you name Gally but despite slowing down he's a prime example of that.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Apr 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
meh, jumping a guy is always a pretty dumb thing to do.
- Pat1993


If it is a clean / fair hit, then whatever.

You retaliate by hitting their players as hard.

The Kucherov hit is one we see often in a game, when the defence goes back to get the puck, but this was a little more dirty than the usual. Perhaps the players on the ice, at the time, did not see it / think it was dirty until after the fact.

I am not in their headspace, so I cannot answer.

But clear dirty hits should be addressed right away, regardless of who is on the ice - even if they have to jump a player.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
If it is a clean / fair hit, then whatever.

You retaliate by hitting their players as hard.

The Kucherov hit is one we see often in a game, when the defence goes back to get the puck, but this was a little more dirty than the usual. Perhaps the players on the ice, at the time, did not see it / think it was dirty until after the fact.

I am not in their headspace, so I cannot answer.

But clear dirty hits should be addressed right away, regardless of who is on the ice - even if they have to jump a player.

- Mashadar


oh I was just saying that the same often happens after clean hits, but I do agree with this.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Apr 5 @ 11:56 AM ET
oh I was just saying that the same often happens after clean hits, but I do agree with this.
- Pat1993


Yeah, players losing their poop on a clean hit really pisses me off.

What game do they think they are playing?


Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Apr 5 @ 11:56 AM ET
they get pushed but they do push back. you name Gally but despite slowing down he's a prime example of that.
- Pat1993

Even if it's the internet were allowed to have divergent opinions and argue respectfully.

I'd like my habs to be a little more pugnacious and you are content with their current state.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
Even if it's the internet were allowed to have divergent opinions and argue respectfully.

I'd like my habs to be a little more pugnacious and you are content with their current state.

- Fredo


oh, was I lacking respect?

but sure, bygones, of course. I'm not even trying to convince you either, just having a hockey conversation.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 5 @ 11:59 AM ET
Even if it's the internet were allowewhat d to have divergent opinions and argue respectfully.

I'd like my habs to be a little more pugnacious and you are content with their current state.

- Fredo

what about testosterone, truculence and belligerence?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 12:00 PM ET
Yeah, players losing their poop on a clean hit really pisses me off.

What game do they think they are playing?

- Mashadar


I think it comes down to the fact that poop happens really fast on the ice, and in the moment a hit can be perceived as dirty while it wasn't.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 5 @ 12:01 PM ET
Pat....RASPACT!



Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 12:04 PM ET
Pat....RASPACT!




- Symba007



my raspek has a lot of dep!
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Apr 5 @ 12:04 PM ET
oh, was I lacking respect?

but sure, bygones, of course. I'm not even trying to convince you either, just having a hockey conversation.

- Pat1993

The term dumb was thrown around once. But for you that’s like decent improvement
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Apr 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
I think it comes down to the fact that poop happens really fast on the ice, and in the moment a hit can be perceived as dirty while it wasn't.
- Pat1993


Oh, I agree.

But there are times to also take a number and hit them back harder later in the game.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
The term dumb was thrown around once. But for you that’s like decent improvement
- Fredo


oh please.

I said it was a "dumb strategy", never said you were dumb.


maybe you should toughen up...

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 5 @ 12:06 PM ET
Oh, I agree.

But there are times to also take a number and hit them back harder later in the game.

- Mashadar

even more when the game score is 6-2...time to settle things like this
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Apr 5 @ 12:06 PM ET
Well, you are all a bunch of (frank)ing female genitalias.

Now everyone is insulted, let's move on.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Apr 5 @ 12:06 PM ET
what about testosterone, truculence and belligerence?
- Symba007

I inject all of that
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