But...but...but...the sky is caving in on us each and every day on here! Oh, and Torts is the devil!! Good stuff! Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

what good is young when the talent is average.

So the reason Cutter isn't still in the Flyers organization is because he wanted to sign a contract with them last spring and they wouldn't let him? Is this the final take on this subject? College hockey just named him college player of the year and that's what they reported. Of course, he outscored Ryan Potulny this year. Let's hope this kid's career mirrors Ryan's career!

what good is young when the talent is average.
- hello it's me 2050

It's called depth...that is what you need to win in the playoffs. Gotta start somewhere. The Flyers have a bunch of young guys on their roster that have 20 goal scoring potential. They need to add to that and find some elite talent as well (MM could be one of them). They also have 4 first rounders in the next two years. They need to luck out and find at least one stud with those picks.

But...but...but...the sky is caving in on us each and every day on here! Oh, and Torts is the devil!! Good stuff! Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

Here is the reality. That chart is comparing the Flyers, a team that is supposed to be rebuilding, to playoff teams. Most of which are legit contenders and are supposed to have an older roster. The Flyers being the youngest doesn't mean anything. It would if the Flyers were an actual contender. The chart you want to look at it the chart comparing age with other rebuilding teams. Now the Flyers can lower their average age by getting rid of players like Staal, Johnson, Deslauriers, etc. All players they shouldn't have on their roster.

Wasn’t the point.
- Stayin alive

Then what is the point?

You guys are talking about cutting games. IT will never happen. The players, the union, the owners and the fans would not allow it.

You are pushing a bs thought that has as much chance of happening as ND scoring 6 goals tonight.

Here is the reality. That chart is comparing the Flyers, a team that is supposed to be rebuilding, to playoff teams. Most of which are legit contenders and are supposed to have an older roster. The Flyers being the youngest doesn't mean anything. It would if the Flyers were an actual contender. The chart you want to look at it the chart comparing age with other rebuilding teams. Now the Flyers can lower their average age by getting rid of players like Staal, Johnson, Deslauriers, etc. All players they shouldn't have on their roster.
- MJL

Yeah, Stall and Johnson are gone, and I hope they find a way to part with ND. That right there will make them a good bit younger. I thought they were in the top 5 of the youngest teams overall, but perhaps not. If you remove those guys they probably are in the top five of the youngest teams in the entire league.

Another season with playoff spots coming down to final few games & CC & his team being out of contention since December 😂 what a legend
- Fopa21

You sound like an idiot repeating this all season long when the Sens issues have nothing to do with the performance of Giroux.

Then what is the point?

You guys are talking about cutting games. IT will never happen. The players, the union, the owners and the fans would not allow it.

You are pushing a bs thought that has as much chance of happening as ND scoring 6 goals tonight.
- TheFreak

Agreed! I really don't know what the discussion is about. There in no way in hell they are cutting games and salaries. No chance!!

It's called depth...that is what you need to win in the playoffs. Gotta start somewhere. The Flyers have a bunch of young guys on their roster that have 20 goal scoring potential. They need to add to that and find some elite talent as well (MM could be one of them). They also have 4 first rounders in the next two years. They need to luck out and find at least one stud with those picks.
- Phillywhiteout

yes depth, that will get them far. sadly this is the flyers philospy as well. flyers have pretty much what every nhl team has; only diff is many other teams have more. flyers don't believe yo need elite talent or not a lot of it danny boy said. don't remember the exact quote.

yep just find some elite talent. flyers have done a great job with that over the years.

Here is the reality. That chart is comparing the Flyers, a team that is supposed to be rebuilding, to playoff teams. Most of which are legit contenders and are supposed to have an older roster. The Flyers being the youngest doesn't mean anything. It would if the Flyers were an actual contender. The chart you want to look at it the chart comparing age with other rebuilding teams. Now the Flyers can lower their average age by getting rid of players like Staal, Johnson, Deslauriers, etc. All players they shouldn't have on their roster.
- MJL

good post cliff.

If Pittsburgh wins tonight, they're only two points back of the Flyers. If the Flyers can win 4 of the last 6. That should do it.
- MJL

They are heating up...on a 5 game losing streak, looking spent, and no energy. Conflict follows them, and they basically have only Frost as an offensive center.

I doubt they win 1 of the last 6.

They are heating up...on a 5 game losing streak, looking spent, and no energy. Conflict follows them, and they basically have only Frost as an offensive center.

I doubt they win 1 of the last 6.
- TheFreak

also depends on what sabres, devils, montreal, and columbus team shows up. Have they packed it in getting ready for a vacation? caps struggling a bit.

flyers do have an easier path. we shall see how tight their sphincter is tonight.

yes depth, that will get them far. sadly this is the flyers philospy as well. flyers have pretty much what every nhl team has; only diff is many other teams have more. flyers don't believe yo need elite talent or not a lot of it danny boy said. don't remember the exact quote.

yep just find some elite talent. flyers have done a great job with that over the years.
- hello it's me 2050

Many times in the playoffs the front line players get shut down and then you need your third liners to be able to contribute. Yes, teams that take home the Cup have some elite talent, but go look at the production of the lower lines and I think you'll find that they were very productive as well.

Obviously they would. In a HYPOTHETICAL scenario where schedule was reduced that could ONLY happen with reduction in pay for players.

This is all hypothetical and no one is suggesting a reduction. But the league WOULD survive just dandy if they hypothetically reduced games because pay cuts would have to happen too.


I do believe a schedule reduction would make the games better imo. I know it would probably never happen but more rested players with a shorter schedule would result in higher quality product. Unfortunately they aren’t interested in that. The fans lose out.
- Stayin alive

There is now way, under any circumstances, that the players and their union is going to agree to a 12% pay cut, no matter how many fewer games they would be playing. Your argument is pointless and ridiculous. The players are plssed about the amount of escrow they have been paying since Covid...so now you think they would casually accept a 12% paycut because you think they play too many games?

It will never happen.

Then what is the point?

You guys are talking about cutting games. IT will never happen. The players, the union, the owners and the fans would not allow it.

You are pushing a bs thought that has as much chance of happening as ND scoring 6 goals tonight.
- TheFreak

His point was to try and prove me wrong. Which he failed to do. He tried to use two completely different and unrelated situations to show that the players salaries could be reduced. One the lockout, which the players had no choice. Players were earning around 70% of revenue do to the teams overspending on players. Reducing to a 50/50 share. That was fair and something the players had no choice but to accept. The other was COVID. Which caused the players escrow deficit to heavily increase to the point where it was just paid back to the owners this season. The reason the league could do that was because there is a provision in the CBA, that allows the league to reduce player salaries in case of an issue that the league can't control. Such as a pandemic or a war. That would not be the case with the league wanting to reduce games played. The players would never agree to it. He also ignorantly believes that just cutting player salaries would cover the reduced revenue and profit. It wouldn't. Less games played would see less TV revenue, less ad revenue and less on site game revenue. Many franchises which are poorer would be devastated. The league would be devastated. There is no talk of it for those reasons. In fact I read that the league would actually like to increase the season to 84 games.

They are heating up...on a 5 game losing streak, looking spent, and no energy. Conflict follows them, and they basically have only Frost as an offensive center.

I doubt they win 1 of the last 6.
- TheFreak

They've had what 3 days off. I think we'll see a little bit of a bounce back tonight in terms of energy but it won't last.

Many times in the playoffs the front line players get shut down and then you need your third liners to be able to contribute. Yes, teams that take home the Cup have some elite talent, but go look at the production of the lower lines and I think you'll find that they were very productive as well.
- Phillywhiteout

how many player son this current roster do you see still here in 3/4 years when one hopes they are a somewhat contender?

There is now way, under any circumstances, that the players and their union is going to agree to a 12% pay cut, no matter how many fewer games they would be playing. Your argument is pointless and ridiculous. The players are plssed about the amount of escrow they have been paying since Covid...so now you think they would casually accept a 12% paycut because you think they play too many games?

It will never happen.
- TheFreak

flipside is 12% cut is better than no paycheck. owners hold the cards imo if they really wanted to force the issue. they wont.

They've had what 3 days off. I think we'll see a little bit of a bounce back tonight in terms of energy but it won't last.
- MJL

any facts to back this up? any proof? any links?

They are heating up...on a 5 game losing streak, looking spent, and no energy. Conflict follows them, and they basically have only Frost as an offensive center.

I doubt they win 1 of the last 6.
- TheFreak

Let's be serious here... all these teams will be lucky if they stay near .500 the rest of the way... it's just been inconsistency and ineptitude all around.

Whoever sucks the least will back into the POs.

Flyers do look shot but they're still plucky.

So the reason Cutter isn't still in the Flyers organization is because he wanted to sign a contract with them last spring and they wouldn't let him? Is this the final take on this subject? College hockey just named him college player of the year and that's what they reported. Of course, he outscored Ryan Potulny this year. Let's hope this kid's career mirrors Ryan's career!
- Phillywhiteout

I wish Gauthier nothing but the best and am hoping for a monster career from him. He was the right pick at the time, is a fantastic player who is getting better, and will be a symbol of the Flyers inabilty to just do the right thing, and not over think it. They blew it with a potential elite forward due to money. It was a no brainer. Pure stupidity.

Let's be serious here... all these teams will be lucky if they stay near .500 the rest of the way... it's just been inconsistency and ineptitude all around.

Whoever sucks the least will back into the POs.

Flyers do look shot but they're still plucky.
- Tomahawk

this is what the kool aid flyers fans do not get. Had so many teams not had bad years where would the flyers be?

Those teams failing has more to do with the flyers "success" then actually taking steps forward imo. This years aint over so funny to say, though next year I expect them to not be in playoff "contention".

I wish Gauthier nothing but the best and am hoping for a monster career from him. He was the right pick at the time, is a fantastic player who is getting better, and will be a symbol of the Flyers inabilty to just do the right thing, and not over think it. They blew it with a potential elite forward due to money. It was a no brainer. Pure stupidity.
- TheFreak

never ever thought you would say that about the flyers. danny boy and his crew dropped the ball. No other way around it. JD may be nothing more than Karl Dykhuis.

I reluctantly do that trade. Of course, I’d like to see the other offers since if he is made available, there will be a bidding war. But while nothing is overwhelming coming from the Habs, it is a good collection of assets. Josh Anderson is playing poorly with 5.5 for three years left. Could he just need a change of scenery? Struble is a 22 year old D that we don’t need but also wouldn’t hurt. Beck is a 200 ft C (very flyers like player) who is going to be a 4 (maybe 3) C in the league some day. Plus a 1st and 3rd. Mostly it just avoids giving TK an 8 year deal…so I’m pretty into trading him 😂
- coffee junkie

i didnt watch it, what was the actual rumour

Snider did not have any patience.

But you can also say Carolina hasn't won anything with Brind in 6 years. Time for a change?
- WhiskeyMan

The 1st thing i thought was brindi is a bad example he hasnt won anything. Mike sullivan is a good example. couple of cups, been there for years. But always had elite talent.

Some on here are against tanking. How do the flyers get elite talent if they wont tank? I would like to hear the different paths to get elite talent without overpaying.