Not as young as you think he is. He will be 29 in the first year of his new deal. whatever it is.

What is your idea of team friendly?
- MBFlyerfan

JD has been told this countless times, yet he continues to say TK is young. He also ignores TK's lengthy injury history.

I watched some video of Fedotov practicing with the Flyers yesterday; my Gosh is he huge! It's the like the Geico commercial with the Walrus in the net Even when he butterflies Fedotov's head is above the crossbar.
- jd250

https://twitter.com/JHall...Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

I trade TK. Love the player and it would suck to see him go but they have to stop giving out huge paydays on older players. It will be there continued downfall.

Why don't you make me. I'll meet you anywhere, any time .. just name the place, coward!
- jd250

The response I expected - you are an utter and complete fool

Yes but the writing is on the wall no? Seeler extension? What assets were moved at tdl? They literally have until draft or maybe before fa period to make “rebuild “ moves.

So far the moves more scream retool. I have little faith they actually rebuild. I think it’s all lip service. A pr move to keep the ship afloat for the status quo money scheme. Seeler extension alone sets that in motion. Tk extension leaves no doubt.

I mean what do to you think they do? Or should do? Is there any path to rebuild with tk extension?
- Stayin alive

The writing isn't on the wall until it's written. I think they should talk to TK's camp and see what they want. Then of course, see what the market is for TK. I like the player, but he does tend to get banged up and go through slow periods, so I would probably lean towards trading him. Walker was moved at the TDL for a first wound pick. Seeler is a Torts guy, so you knew what was going to happen. I do agree that it is probably more likely that they sign TK and that would probably be the wrong thing to do, but it hasn't happened yet.

Not as young as you think he is. He will be 29 in the first year of his new deal. whatever it is.

What is your idea of team friendly?
- MBFlyerfan

I was looking at recent 8 year contracts to see where TK might be, and here are some comparables:

Gustav Forsling, 27 years old - 8 years $5.75M, top 4 defenseman, plays over 20 minutes a game, good offensively also

Elias Pettersson, 25 years old - 8 years $11.6M, one of the top centers in the game

Owen Tippet, 25 years old - 8 years $6.2M, potential 35+ goal a year winger

William Nylander, 27 years old - 8 years $11.5M, one of the top RWs in the game

Devon Toews, 30 years old - 8 years $7.25M, top 4 defenseman, top pairing defenseman.

To me, TK is better than Tippet, but not as good as Pettersson or Nylander. I would say TKs impact to the Flyers is similar to the impact Towes makes to the Avalanche, so a team friendly deal is somewhere around 8 years at $7.5 per given he is a winger and the cap is going up.

https://twitter.com/JHall...Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
- TheFreak

I bet you Deslauriers can score on him?

The response I expected - you are an utter and complete fool
- corduroy

I'm laughing at the coward...

JD has been told this countless times, yet he continues to say TK is young. He also ignores TK's lengthy injury history.
- TheFreak

Hey, compared to me, 29 is young!

TK is going to want what everyone else wants and thats 7-8 yr deal at 8M or more. Do you do that or trade him for assets. Personally I trade him. He is a high energy guy but very streaky and doesnt bring that energy often enough. If they are in a real rebuild it will be 3 to 4 more years till they are realistically competitive.
- hfc355

If I could get a true 1C for TK, that I know can play with Michkov for years to come I would consider it for sure. Short of this, I really want to keep TK. I simply don't believe a rebuild means you have to jettison all your good players for lottery picks.

Some one burn your toast this morning?
- landros 2

don't eat toast ...

does he have the goods?
- hello it's me 2050

we'll see ...

Be interesting when RR is healthy ….can he play his way back into a tradable asset….discuss….



Edit: just kidding….let’s not discuss.
- landros 2

It's actually a good question. I do believe based on everything I read that if Risto did not get hurt before the deadline there were teams kicking the tires on what it would take to get him. I think the Flyers would like to get out from under either Risto's or Sanheim's contract. I could see a big trade involving Sanheim this off-season.

I was looking at recent 8 year contracts to see where TK might be, and here are some comparables:

Gustav Forsling, 27 years old - 8 years $5.75M, top 4 defenseman, plays over 20 minutes a game, good offensively also

Elias Pettersson, 25 years old - 8 years $11.6M, one of the top centers in the game

Owen Tippet, 25 years old - 8 years $6.2M, potential 35+ goal a year winger

William Nylander, 27 years old - 8 years $11.5M, one of the top RWs in the game

Devon Toews, 30 years old - 8 years $7.25M, top 4 defenseman, top pairing defenseman.

To me, TK is better than Tippet, but not as good as Pettersson or Nylander. I would say TKs impact to the Flyers is similar to the impact Towes makes to the Avalanche, so a team friendly deal is somewhere around 8 years at $7.5 per given he is a winger and the cap is going up.
- jd250

There is no way that TK signs for $7.5. Friedman has the number starting with a 9.....It's going to be at least $72 million over 8 years...and a huge, huge mistake.

TK is not comparrable to Nylander or Petterson, and comparing him to a defensemans salary is ridiculous

Hey, compared to me, 29 is young!
- jd250

Me too...I can't even remember that far back....

but 29 is getting into the latter stages of an effective NHLers career. Having a $9 per hit on a 37 year old is insanity.

The writing isn't on the wall until it's written. I think they should talk to TK's camp and see what they want. Then of course, see what the market is for TK. I like the player, but he does tend to get banged up and go through slow periods, so I would probably lean towards trading him. Walker was moved at the TDL for a first wound pick. Seeler is a Torts guy, so you knew what was going to happen. I do agree that it is probably more likely that they sign TK and that would probably be the wrong thing to do, but it hasn't happened yet.
- Phillywhiteout

While the writing isn’t on the wall yet it’s clear they are most likely to sign extension. Yes I hope out hope he is moved but Id be more surprised if they move him rather than resign him. Yes you have to wait to see exactly what happens but one would be foolish to not be pessimistic if you want him moved.

Yes you can look at the moves made as an indication as to what they are likely to do. And the walker trade was a nothing burger. It was obvious they HAD to move him and yes it was nice to get the 1st back. But they did HAVE to take a bad contract back to get the 1st. It’s not like it was a steal. It was very predictable move by flyers and a move they should’ve been expected to make. A nothing burger. What’s more telling is laughts tk not traded and seeler extended.

To me they are on fence and probably 80/20 going retool instead of rebuild. I do hold out hope only because mm is so intriguing. But it means nothing if they waste time over next couple years retooling instead of rebuilding.

I was looking at recent 8 year contracts to see where TK might be, and here are some comparables:

Gustav Forsling, 27 years old - 8 years $5.75M, top 4 defenseman, plays over 20 minutes a game, good offensively also

Elias Pettersson, 25 years old - 8 years $11.6M, one of the top centers in the game

Owen Tippet, 25 years old - 8 years $6.2M, potential 35+ goal a year winger

William Nylander, 27 years old - 8 years $11.5M, one of the top RWs in the game

Devon Toews, 30 years old - 8 years $7.25M, top 4 defenseman, top pairing defenseman.

To me, TK is better than Tippet, but not as good as Pettersson or Nylander. I would say TKs impact to the Flyers is similar to the impact Towes makes to the Avalanche, so a team friendly deal is somewhere around 8 years at $7.5 per given he is a winger and the cap is going up.
- jd250

Instead of wasting time researching all those just research he’s turning 29 at beginning of extension. You don’t give 8 years to a 29 year old unless it’s a star player. Which he is NOT.

Yes, he is quietly becoming a stud! Hope he can stay healthy cause he does tend to take some big hits and he's not all that big.
- Phillywhiteout

York is a good young player who is progressing nicely. He has room to grow and get better. However, he's not in the "stud" category of defenseman. Not close. Not yet anyway.

Yes, he is quietly becoming a stud! Hope he can stay healthy cause he does tend to take some big hits and he's not all that big.
- Phillywhiteout

York is a good young player who is progressing nicely. He has room to grow and get better. However, he's not in the "stud" category of defenseman. Not close. Not yet anyway.

This is where we simply disagree. Staal and Hathaway are fine signings that play the game the right way, and don't cost too much in terms of % of the cap. Both have moveable contracts and Hathaway only has 1 more year. I am all for trading Laughton. I love him as a player and he is once again having a terrific year for the Flyers, but with Poehling coming on, I think the Flyers can lose Laughton and get a good return. Risto should be traded to open up some spots for young defenseman to come in. Given his injury, the Flyers will probably take it on the chin, but more likely will wait until the deadline next season to move him. I'm not there with TK. I love him as a player, he is still young and IF the Flyers can sign him to a team friendly deal I want the Flyers to extend him.
- jd250

Teams that are supposedly rebuilding shouldn't sign players like Hathaway and Staal. The saving grace is that should be able to get a decent asset for Hathaway next season. Knowing the Flyers though, they'll extend him.

All that talk you have of trading for a 1C. I've asked you numerous times what the Flyers are going to trade for a 1C. You won't answer. It's not hard to figure out. At least you didn't call Konecny the face of the franchise this time.

“I love him as a player “
That’ll get you in trouble. Why would he sign a team friendly deal? He’s gonna want to get paid. And he has already proved that by his last holdout for his last contract. Get that out of your head. He’s gonna expect 8-9 mil per year. You simply don’t sign a tk to that in a cap world. Not with his age and all
- Stayin alive

There you go with your ridiculous absolutes. NHL teams sign players like Konecny in his situation all the time. Routinely. If the Flyers were a contender, you re-sign Konecny. If not, and the Flyers aren't going to be one any time soon. Hence, they should look to move him.

I was looking at recent 8 year contracts to see where TK might be, and here are some comparables:

Gustav Forsling, 27 years old - 8 years $5.75M, top 4 defenseman, plays over 20 minutes a game, good offensively also

Elias Pettersson, 25 years old - 8 years $11.6M, one of the top centers in the game

Owen Tippet, 25 years old - 8 years $6.2M, potential 35+ goal a year winger

William Nylander, 27 years old - 8 years $11.5M, one of the top RWs in the game

Devon Toews, 30 years old - 8 years $7.25M, top 4 defenseman, top pairing defenseman.

To me, TK is better than Tippet, but not as good as Pettersson or Nylander. I would say TKs impact to the Flyers is similar to the impact Towes makes to the Avalanche, so a team friendly deal is somewhere around 8 years at $7.5 per given he is a winger and the cap is going up.
- jd250

LOL. Reading this, it's obvious that you don't have the first clue about NHL contracts and how they work. The difference between a player who has UFA leverage versus RFA leverage. You're also laughably trying to compare defenseman and forwards. Your suggestion that Konecny would sign for 7.5M per is hysterical.

Out of those contracts. Nylander's deal is the only one that is relevant.

Instead of wasting time researching all those just research he’s turning 29 at beginning of extension. You don’t give 8 years to a 29 year old unless it’s a star player. Which he is NOT.
- Stayin alive

"TK > Pasta

Nuff said"

jd250