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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 5:35 PM ET
and bring tie games back? for (frank)'s sake.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Mar 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
I couldn't disagree more.
- Pat1993


Unsurprising.


I lived 37 years with ties. I am fine with them. IF a team really wants that extra point, they have to fight for it, not a shootout crapsoot gimme point.

Earn it as a team or not at all...
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 28 @ 5:37 PM ET
would be entertaining... the only thing I hate though is that OT only lasts 5 min., and I'm not a big fan of shootouts. really wish the league would look into making OT longer.
- Pat1993

i don't really like shootouts either. the 3 on 3 really is exciting with all the room out there. i actually never minded ties. i'd vote for 5 minutes of 3 on 3 and if nobody scores it's a tie.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 5:39 PM ET
i don't really like shootouts either. the 3 on 3 really is exciting with all the room out there. i actually never minded ties. i'd vote for 5 minutes of 3 on 3 and if nobody scores it's a tie.
- kicksave856



I find a tie is very "meh" for a result, and you'd probably see a lot of teams play "safer" hockey and just settle for that.

I'd see it as taking a huge step backwards, but hey, what the (frank) do I know.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Mar 28 @ 5:40 PM ET
i don't really like shootouts either. the 3 on 3 really is exciting with all the room out there. i actually never minded ties. i'd vote for 5 minutes of 3 on 3 and if nobody scores it's a tie.
- kicksave856

Sometimes teams don't deserve to win
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 5:40 PM ET
Unsurprising.


I lived 37 years with ties. I am fine with them. IF a team really wants that extra point, they have to fight for it, not a shootout crapsoot gimme point.

Earn it as a team or not at all...

- Mashadar



people have lived through horrible things for years, that isn't really an argument.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 28 @ 5:48 PM ET
I find a tie is very "meh" for a result, and you'd probably see a lot of teams play "safer" hockey and just settle for that.

I'd see it as taking a huge step backwards, but hey, what the (frank) do I know.

- Pat1993

i get that some people don't want ties. it just never really bothered me because it was just every game is worth 2 points and you have to fight for them. if you win the game you get both, if you lose the game you get neither, if you can manage a tie you split them. it still affected the standings in a way that makes sense and all so it still was important to get that point.

it actually kind of felt to me like they diluted a formula that was working just fine when they changed the overtime rules. but i get that other people might feel different.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 28 @ 5:48 PM ET
Sometimes teams don't deserve to win
- mr.peanut

i'm willing to take a loss in OT!
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Mar 28 @ 5:49 PM ET
i get that some people don't want ties. it just never really bothered me because it was just every game is worth 2 points and you have to fight for them. if you win the game you get both, if you lose the game you get neither, if you can manage a tie you split them. it still affected the standings in a way that makes sense and all so it still was important to get that point.

it actually kind of felt to me like they diluted a formula that was working just fine when they changed the overtime rules. but i get that other people might feel different.

- kicksave856



I don't want ties.
Ascots are where it's at.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Mar 28 @ 5:50 PM ET
i'm willing to take a loss in OT!
- kicksave856

Enjoy a humiliating shoot out loss instead
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 28 @ 5:51 PM ET
I don't want ties.
Ascots are where it's at.

- jugkope

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 28 @ 5:51 PM ET
Enjoy a humiliating shoot out loss instead
- mr.peanut

that's fine too!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 5:54 PM ET
i get that some people don't want ties. it just never really bothered me because it was just every game is worth 2 points and you have to fight for them. if you win the game you get both, if you lose the game you get neither, if you can manage a tie you split them. it still affected the standings in a way that makes sense and all so it still was important to get that point.

it actually kind of felt to me like they diluted a formula that was working just fine when they changed the overtime rules. but i get that other people might feel different.

- kicksave856



perhaps you're right and that it did work, I'm just not convinced going back to ties would necessarily work the same way again.

personally I'd go with a 10 min. OT, and then if there's no winner just go to the shootout to determine the winner. most games are already determined in OT, prolonging it would surely make shootouts a very rare occurrence.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 5:54 PM ET
I don't want ties.
Ascots are where it's at.

- jugkope



kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 28 @ 5:57 PM ET
perhaps you're right and that it did work, I'm just not convinced going back to ties would necessarily work the same way again.

personally I'd go with a 10 min. OT, and then if there's no winner just go to the shootout to determine the winner. most games are already determined in OT, prolonging it would surely make shootouts a very rare occurrence.

- Pat1993

i think we're stuck with it the way it is anyway.

Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Mar 28 @ 5:59 PM ET
I find a tie is very "meh" for a result, and you'd probably see a lot of teams play "safer" hockey and just settle for that.

I'd see it as taking a huge step backwards, but hey, what the (frank) do I know.

- Pat1993


I think knowing you have to fight for the extra point, not have to rely on the shootout, would force more pressure on teams to either win in regulation or push harder in OT.

*shrug*

Perspective. Like bumholes, everyone has one.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 6:00 PM ET
i think we're stuck with it the way it is anyway.
- kicksave856



seems to be the case. they can't even get rid of those ridiculous salary cap loopholes for teams going to the playoffs, they surely aren't looking at that either lol.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 6:01 PM ET
I think knowing you have to fight for the extra point, not have to rely on the shootout, would force more pressure on teams to either win in regulation or push harder in OT.

*shrug*

Perspective. Like bumholes, everyone has one.

- Mashadar


yeah, it's true that's it's another logical way of looking at it, especially for teams in a playoff race that absolutely need those points.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Mar 28 @ 6:02 PM ET
perhaps you're right and that it did work, I'm just not convinced going back to ties would necessarily work the same way again.

personally I'd go with a 10 min. OT, and then if there's no winner just go to the shootout to determine the winner. most games are already determined in OT, prolonging it would surely make shootouts a very rare occurrence.

- Pat1993


I get that. I'd me more into a longer OT, even if it is 3v3.

But I think the purpose of 5 mins and Shootout was to shorten the game down, make it easier for travel.

10 mins+ shootout almost puts it back to potentially 20 minutes.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 6:04 PM ET
I get that. I'd me more into a longer OT, even if it is 3v3.

But I think the purpose of 5 mins and Shootout was to shorten the game down, make it easier for travel.

10 mins+ shootout almost puts it back to potentially 20 minutes.

- Mashadar


while I get what you're saying, would those few potential extra minutes really make it harder for teams to travel..?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Mar 28 @ 6:07 PM ET
i think we're stuck with it the way it is anyway.
- kicksave856


Personally, I think it i silly that there are different OT rules in the regular season and the playoffs. I am not advocating for infinite OT til someone scores in regular season, but what makes that more exciting / warranted in the playoffs?

The inconsistency baffles me.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 6:09 PM ET
Personally, I think it i silly that there are different OT rules in the regular season and the playoffs. I am not advocating for infinite OT til someone scores in regular season, but what makes that more exciting / warranted in the playoffs?

The inconsistency baffles me
.

- Mashadar



to me it's pretty obvious that playoff hockey is the most meaningful hockey to play, the stakes can't get any higher. not sure why you're wondering about this
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Mar 28 @ 6:09 PM ET
while I get what you're saying, would those few potential extra minutes really make it harder for teams to travel..?
- Pat1993


Well, most OT games end quickly, or fairly quickly, so maybe?

Anyways, that was one of their initial reasons, maybe it was just PR bullpoop.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 28 @ 6:10 PM ET
i just read that OT was 10 minutes of 5 on 5 until 1983. i did not know that.

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Mar 28 @ 6:11 PM ET
Well, most OT games end quickly, or fairly quickly, so maybe?

Anyways, that was one of their initial reasons, maybe it was just PR bullpoop.

- Mashadar



for a few minutes? yeah I'd call bullpoop on that one lol
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